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Malachi · 03-14-2008, 05:13 PM

And I have proof!

Edav Nomad · 03-14-2008, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malachi

And I have proof!

Now tell us something new.

Siyu Suen · 03-14-2008, 05:29 PM

What I say is proof now?

AWESOME!

I will now go around stating everything as fact, using this thread as a basis for my ridiculous claims.

OPTIMUS PRIME IS MY MOTHER

Vertigo Paris · 03-14-2008, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siyu Suen

What I say is proof now?

AWESOME!

I will now go around stating everything as fact, using this thread as a basis for my ridiculous claims.

OPTIMUS PRIME IS MY MOTHER

I'm jealous.

Siyu Suen · 03-14-2008, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vertigo Paris

I'm jealous.

Don't be. I was neglected and I never had a 7th birthday party.

Vertigo Paris · 03-14-2008, 05:32 PM

Awww...

Duke Chaparral · 03-14-2008, 05:33 PM

I knew you were more than meets the eye.

Siyu Suen · 03-14-2008, 05:41 PM

The term "Joshin" in respects to being playful or making a joke, comes from Joshua Meadow's maternal grandfather, Josh Prairie. He worked as a florist in New Jearsey, and left his wife for a the owner of the local shoe factory. Mr. Prairie was known to play jokes and constantly be overly dramatic and very talkative, to the point that his name became synonymous with not being serious. Joshua carries his legacy, and also prefers to make very clear that he is not his grandfather, "Josh".

Joshua Nightshade · 03-14-2008, 06:10 PM

Meadows!!!

Joshua Nightshade · 03-14-2008, 07:59 PM

You know, not that any of these threads are meant to be dramatic (I'm assuming,) but since I don't want to make a brand new one for this I'm going to hijack this one.

In the course of the day like sixteen people have sent me messages along the vein of "OMG do you know what so and so and so and so and so and so were saying about you?" And it's not that I particularly care any, at all, and while I'm sure this point will be dismissed by a lot of people I do hold out hope that it will hit home towards more than a handful.

While you're all pretending on other sites like I'm the only person who destroys the internet, and I'm such a horrible asshole, at least keep in mind that when I say something shitty, I say it to someone directly, to their face, where they see it. I don't pretend to be your friend here and talk smack about you privately where I think you can't see it. I won't say anything about someone privately that I haven't already said to them directly. This is a point of principle for me, and I make no claims to be perfect, but I am genuine.

I wonder how many of you who are all, with few exceptions, much older than me can respond to that. Those who gossip and insult and mock me on places you think I don't see. And I do see, and I don't treat you any differently here despite it. I am not passive-aggressive. I'm not going to call anyone out here, because that isn't the point, but I'm aware. I've always been aware.

On a final point, I get that a good chunk of people dislike me. I just don't understand why you have to take a problem you have with me to other sites who don't want to deal with the issue. I don't understand why you make a grievance you have with me here a public issue for Coyote or Fatz or other moderators who have expressed requests that these things stay on their originating places. It's insensitive, and not to me where I don't care at all, but insensitive to the others. And stop bitching at Cris because of me. Stop going and harassing people who have no control or involvement in what I do in an attempt to get at me because you won't confront me directly.

This isn't high school. Deal with people like adults.

Siyu Suen · 03-14-2008, 08:23 PM

God Joshua, stop being such an attention whore you big drama queen.

/me goes and posts on a ton of forums how big an attention whore Joshua is, omg, did you see?

Ok but seriously, I completely agree, and personally even if I do talk behind someone's back, I try to make whatever I say something that, if confronted, I'd tell them right to their face. But I'm a catty bitch sometimes (and a horrid elitist), so I'd rather my venom stay confined to one or two trusted friends.

Nimrod Yaffle · 03-14-2008, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua Nightshade

I wonder how many of you who are all, with few exceptions, much older than me can respond to that.

Woo-hoo! I'm a minority!

Then again, around josh, who isn't?

Cocoanut Koala · 03-14-2008, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua Nightshade

You know, not that any of these threads are meant to be dramatic (I'm assuming,) but since I don't want to make a brand new one for this I'm going to hijack this one.

In the course of the day like sixteen people have sent me messages along the vein of "OMG do you know what so and so and so and so and so and so were saying about you?" And it's not that I particularly care any, at all, and while I'm sure this point will be dismissed by a lot of people I do hold out hope that it will hit home towards more than a handful.

While you're all pretending on other sites like I'm the only person who destroys the internet, and I'm such a horrible asshole, at least keep in mind that when I say something shitty, I say it to someone directly, to their face, where they see it. I don't pretend to be your friend here and talk smack about you privately where I think you can't see it. I won't say anything about someone privately that I haven't already said to them directly. This is a point of principle for me, and I make no claims to be perfect, but I am genuine.

I wonder how many of you who are all, with few exceptions, much older than me can respond to that. Those who gossip and insult and mock me on places you think I don't see. And I do see, and I don't treat you any differently here despite it. I am not passive-aggressive. I'm not going to call anyone out here, because that isn't the point, but I'm aware. I've always been aware.

On a final point, I get that a good chunk of people dislike me. I just don't understand why you have to take a problem you have with me to other sites who don't want to deal with the issue. I don't understand why you make a grievance you have with me here a public issue for Coyote or Fatz or other moderators who have expressed requests that these things stay on their originating places. It's insensitive, and not to me where I don't care at all, but insensitive to the others. And stop bitching at Cris because of me. Stop going and harassing people who have no control or involvement in what I do in an attempt to get at me because you won't confront me directly.

This isn't high school. Deal with people like adults.

Well, I'm one of those much older than you, and I will respond to it.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, and I would have said it on that recent thread had it not been locked, and I'll say it again now, here, and worse than I ever said it before.

The verbal abuse is a problem. You have a problem with verbally abusing people. You need to work on that. It makes other people heartsick. You are young enough to change this.

Being "direct" about it is nothing particularly to be proud of. You need to stop doing it, period. It's an indulgence of yours. You can indeed get through life even if you stop and think that there is a human being on the other side of your verbal abuse. You don't have to say every killing thing that comes to your mind, whenever you get in the mood.

They don't deserve it, no matter what you think.

Moreover, no one cares that you think other people are scum on the bottom of your shoe. When you say things like that, it just makes the rest of us feel bad. It's like being in a bad marriage with this verbal abuse. Or, having to watch one, actually. Having to watch, say, a spouse beating and berating his partner, for instance. Brings everyone down. It's embarrassing, even.

You can simply NOT do it. Don't subject people to inhumane verbal abuse. I wonder what it would take to make you understand you NEED to not do it.

I like you. I liked you even when I was recipient of some of that verbal abuse. And I'm an old dog enough not to be bothered by it personally, when it was directed at me.

But when you hurt others with it, you hurt me with it - more, in fact, that if it was addressed to me personally. (Don't ask me why it works that way, it just does.)

I know you are not intending to hurt ME with verbal abuse you visit on others, but it does; it hurts me and others not even involved. It hurts everything. You need to tone it down and cut it out, and mostly, you need to understand that you MUST do this. I believe you must do this because it is your own worst enemy.

You must not say things with an attempt to cut the other person down to nothing, to literally tell them they are completely worthless people, to try to make them lose all face forever. Who are you to do all that, anyhow?

You cannot personally develop when you engage in verbal abuse of such horrendous nature. It is as bad as physically beating up on someone. It isn't clever. It's cruel. It's haughty and dismissive. It goes for the jugular. It's pointless, needless. And it hurts you.

None of those things need you ever do. You yourself are a special human being with so many fine qualities that to do such a thing only diminishes yourself, TO yourself, as well as in other people's eyes.

You have a deep problem with verbal abuse and I don't know how you developed it, and I'm not sure how that matters, though it might help you overcome it once you understand it.

These are the kinds of thoughts I normally have but don't express, here or on ANY other site. Though I have made a few comments on other sites alluding to it. But believe me, it is only a SMIDGEN of what I would have liked to have said. I try to be a little gentle with it, but man, you're begging for it, so here it is.

Give it some thought. Because it is standing in the way of you being you, just as much as, say, being lame might, or being blind in one eye. You are young enough to overcome this, and you SHOULD TRY.

Now, as far as other sites are concerned, other people are people, too, and they need a place to go when they are hurt.

They are not going to say the same sorts of things to you to hurt you, because they are not the type of people to do that in the first place. But they DO need a place to go to lick their wounds.

So don't blame them for that, or act superior to them just because you are right there with the bloody first blows, in most instances, with no holds barred, and you are calling that "up front" and "honest" and what not, and them (and me, for the few sentences I've uttered elsewhere, and believe me, Joshua, I have written probably six or ten lengthy posts over the past year, and not posted them, here and elsewhere) cowards and back-biters or whatever else.

They are not - they are hurt people who can't take it anymore. And should never have HAD to take it, or be subjected to it in the first place.

And they deserve a place to talk where you won't be ripping them apart. They need it, they deserve it, and by damn, they can have it, regardless of whether you think they should or not.

Now, do you want that to stop? Do you want to stop hurting people? Or do you insist on continuing that and at least enjoying the notoriety of it?

Be all the good things that you are - the things people like, the reason I still like you, and have never disliked you. So many good things, that there is no NEED to indulge a need for vicious verbal abuse. All it does, as far as I'm personally concerned - it doesn't make me dislike you (kind of odd, that), but I realize it does makes me simply stop caring about you, finally.

No one likes these kinds of confrontations, and *I* most definitely do not like these kinds of confrontations. But you know I've asked you before to tone it down. And I have explained to Cristiano that I get angry with you and no longer want to post here (that, plus I get tired of Christian-bashing). So yes, he knows. And you sure as heck are not going to stand there and tell ME I can't tell him that.

You want it? You want me to make a whole post and this time POST it? Well, here it is. Isn't going to do me personally any good to post it. But you wanted a response, here ya go. And every time you do this verbal abuse thing is another time when I think, do I really want to come here to watch this sort of verbal carnage? And it's always so unexpected. It ruins a person's whole visit to SLU.

Because it is unpleasant to watch, unpleasant to read - in the extreme. If you could just get that, we would be getting somewhere. And if you can't stop doing it, then you'll just have to put up with people talking about you where you aren't, because they are people, too.

I hope you will stop doing it, because it really keeps people from holding you in the esteem you deserve to have, and keeps you from progressing in life, and, I'm sure, not just on forums. So get out of denial, and start working on it. I know you can do it.

Now, do one thing for me. When you get past being mad about this, and perhaps posting your first reposts - say, in a day or so - come back and reread what I said. And understand it comes from the heart.

coco

Aimee Weber · 03-15-2008, 12:03 AM

One thing I noticed about Josh, is that his principals rise above all. I think he and I agree with each other ... maybe roughly 90% of the time. I think he and I are simply ideologically similar. But that 10% ... whoa nelly. He fires at me with both barrels and doesn't hold the punches.

So while I don't always agree with some of his methods, I will say that he doesn't play "local politics" sacrificing his principals in favor of cliques or "cool kids" or anything like that. You always know how he honestly feels ... whether he has to praise a foe or put a friend in their place.

Lordfly Digeridoo · 03-15-2008, 02:15 AM

Joshua Nightshade stole my dingo-eating baby.

Plus he hates it when I IM him randomly.

Joshua Nightshade · 03-15-2008, 04:25 AM

I wasn't asking for a critique of my posting style Coco. I am on my phone so I can't reply to this in full detail but if you think for a moment that people don't insult me on a level on par or far beyond what I say to an individual directly to their face, you are delusional.

How many people here have an entire subforum on another site dedicated to making fun of them? How many people have their name auto corrected into an insult?

You can pretend like I am 'hurting' people and they need some place to 'heal,' eyeroll, but the difference is when I say something to someone it is me, as one individual, saying it to them directly. When shit is said about me on other sites it is ten people giggling and insulting me on par with what I originally said, except they are being cowards.

To your critique about tone, I have never pretended that I don't get angry at people and respond to them badly when pissed off. That doesn't at all excuse the fact or make it okay in any way for the crap said about me on other sites to exist though. And I am really of the opinion that anyone crying about how mean I am check the shit on their own shoes before they point out mine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cocoanut Koala

Well, I'm one of those much older than you, and I will respond to it.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, and I would have said it on that recent thread had it not been locked, and I'll say it again now, here, and worse than I ever said it before.

The verbal abuse is a problem. You have a problem with verbally abusing people. You need to work on that. It makes other people heartsick. You are young enough to change this.

Being "direct" about it is nothing particularly to be proud of. You need to stop doing it, period. It's an indulgence of yours. You can indeed get through life even if you stop and think that there is a human being on the other side of your verbal abuse. You don't have to say every killing thing that comes to your mind, whenever you get in the mood.

They don't deserve it, no matter what you think.

Moreover, no one cares that you think other people are scum on the bottom of your shoe. When you say things like that, it just makes the rest of us feel bad. It's like being in a bad marriage with this verbal abuse. Or, having to watch one, actually. Having to watch, say, a spouse beating and berating his partner, for instance. Brings everyone down. It's embarrassing, even.

You can simply NOT do it. Don't subject people to inhumane verbal abuse. I wonder what it would take to make you understand you NEED to not do it.

I like you. I liked you even when I was recipient of some of that verbal abuse. And I'm an old dog enough not to be bothered by it personally, when it was directed at me.

But when you hurt others with it, you hurt me with it - more, in fact, that if it was addressed to me personally. (Don't ask me why it works that way, it just does.)

I know you are not intending to hurt ME with verbal abuse you visit on others, but it does; it hurts me and others not even involved. It hurts everything. You need to tone it down and cut it out, and mostly, you need to understand that you MUST do this. I believe you must do this because it is your own worst enemy.

You must not say things with an attempt to cut the other person down to nothing, to literally tell them they are completely worthless people, to try to make them lose all face forever. Who are you to do all that, anyhow?

You cannot personally develop when you engage in verbal abuse of such horrendous nature. It is as bad as physically beating up on someone. It isn't clever. It's cruel. It's haughty and dismissive. It goes for the jugular. It's pointless, needless. And it hurts you.

None of those things need you ever do. You yourself are a special human being with so many fine qualities that to do such a thing only diminishes yourself, TO yourself, as well as in other people's eyes.

You have a deep problem with verbal abuse and I don't know how you developed it, and I'm not sure how that matters, though it might help you overcome it once you understand it.

These are the kinds of thoughts I normally have but don't express, here or on ANY other site. Though I have made a few comments on other sites alluding to it. But believe me, it is only a SMIDGEN of what I would have liked to have said. I try to be a little gentle with it, but man, you're begging for it, so here it is.

Give it some thought. Because it is standing in the way of you being you, just as much as, say, being lame might, or being blind in one eye. You are young enough to overcome this, and you SHOULD TRY.

Now, as far as other sites are concerned, other people are people, too, and they need a place to go when they are hurt.

They are not going to say the same sorts of things to you to hurt you, because they are not the type of people to do that in the first place. But they DO need a place to go to lick their wounds.

So don't blame them for that, or act superior to them just because you are right there with the bloody first blows, in most instances, with no holds barred, and you are calling that "up front" and "honest" and what not, and them (and me, for the few sentences I've uttered elsewhere, and believe me, Joshua, I have written probably six or ten lengthy posts over the past year, and not posted them, here and elsewhere) cowards and back-biters or whatever else.

They are not - they are hurt people who can't take it anymore. And should never have HAD to take it, or be subjected to it in the first place.

And they deserve a place to talk where you won't be ripping them apart. They need it, they deserve it, and by damn, they can have it, regardless of whether you think they should or not.

Now, do you want that to stop? Do you want to stop hurting people? Or do you insist on continuing that and at least enjoying the notoriety of it?

Be all the good things that you are - the things people like, the reason I still like you, and have never disliked you. So many good things, that there is no NEED to indulge a need for vicious verbal abuse. All it does, as far as I'm personally concerned - it doesn't make me dislike you (kind of odd, that), but I realize it does makes me simply stop caring about you, finally.

No one likes these kinds of confrontations, and *I* most definitely do not like these kinds of confrontations. But you know I've asked you before to tone it down. And I have explained to Cristiano that I get angry with you and no longer want to post here (that, plus I get tired of Christian-bashing). So yes, he knows. And you sure as heck are not going to stand there and tell ME I can't tell him that.

You want it? You want me to make a whole post and this time POST it? Well, here it is. Isn't going to do me personally any good to post it. But you wanted a response, here ya go. And every time you do this verbal abuse thing is another time when I think, do I really want to come here to watch this sort of verbal carnage? And it's always so unexpected. It ruins a person's whole visit to SLU.

Because it is unpleasant to watch, unpleasant to read - in the extreme. If you could just get that, we would be getting somewhere. And if you can't stop doing it, then you'll just have to put up with people talking about you where you aren't, because they are people, too.

I hope you will stop doing it, because it really keeps people from holding you in the esteem you deserve to have, and keeps you from progressing in life, and, I'm sure, not just on forums. So get out of denial, and start working on it. I know you can do it.

Now, do one thing for me. When you get past being mad about this, and perhaps posting your first reposts - sa

03-14-2008, 05:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
Malachi the bathwater & the baby fish are inherently sarcastic Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,475	Josh Nightshade Adores Attention And I have proof!

03-14-2008, 06:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
Joshua Nightshade Custom Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 22,453 SL Join Date: 10-11-2004 Business: abstract avatars! SLShopper Ads: 16 My Mood:	Meadows!!! __________________ joshuameadows.com \| blog.abstractavatars.com

03-15-2008, 02:15 AM	#15 (permalink)
Lordfly Digeridoo Grid.Living verf veruuuufffuurrr rufufurrrrr Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,253 SL Join Date: 7/21/2003 Business: Grid.Living XBOX Leaderboard: 13^th SLShopper Ads: 3 My Mood: Awards: 1	Joshua Nightshade stole my dingo-eating baby. Plus he hates it when I IM him randomly. __________________ http://www.lordfly.com/wordpress http://www.digeridoodesigns.com/

03-14-2008, 05:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
Vertigo Paris The Chaotic RadioRadio DJ Now Hiring Minions Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Displaced Bostonian living in hotter than Hades Texas! Posts: 4,408 SL Join Date: 11/22/2006 Blog Entries: 1 XBOX Leaderboard: 26^th SLShopper Ads: 2 My Mood:	Awww...

03-14-2008, 05:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
Duke Chaparral Drifter Anything is possible Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chicago Area Posts: 1,265 Blog Entries: 2 My Mood:	I knew you were more than meets the eye.

03-14-2008, 05:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
Siyu Suen Mask Wielding Overlord Has infected SLU with Maskeditis Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Carnivale Posts: 3,372 SL Join Date: 10/14/06 Business: Illusions: Masks and Unique Accessories SLShopper Ads: 10 My Mood:	The term "Joshin" in respects to being playful or making a joke, comes from Joshua Meadow's maternal grandfather, Josh Prairie. He worked as a florist in New Jearsey, and left his wife for a the owner of the local shoe factory. Mr. Prairie was known to play jokes and constantly be overly dramatic and very talkative, to the point that his name became synonymous with not being serious. Joshua carries his legacy, and also prefers to make very clear that he is not his grandfather, "Josh".

03-14-2008, 07:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
Joshua Nightshade Custom Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 22,453 SL Join Date: 10-11-2004 Business: abstract avatars! SLShopper Ads: 16 My Mood:	You know, not that any of these threads are meant to be dramatic (I'm assuming,) but since I don't want to make a brand new one for this I'm going to hijack this one. In the course of the day like sixteen people have sent me messages along the vein of "OMG do you know what so and so and so and so and so and so were saying about you?" And it's not that I particularly care any, at all, and while I'm sure this point will be dismissed by a lot of people I do hold out hope that it will hit home towards more than a handful. While you're all pretending on other sites like I'm the only person who destroys the internet, and I'm such a horrible asshole, at least keep in mind that when I say something shitty, I say it to someone directly, to their face, where they see it. I don't pretend to be your friend here and talk smack about you privately where I think you can't see it. I won't say anything about someone privately that I haven't already said to them directly. This is a point of principle for me, and I make no claims to be perfect, but I am genuine. I wonder how many of you who are all, with few exceptions, much older than me can respond to that. Those who gossip and insult and mock me on places you think I don't see. And I do see, and I don't treat you any differently here despite it. I am not passive-aggressive. I'm not going to call anyone out here, because that isn't the point, but I'm aware. I've always been aware. On a final point, I get that a good chunk of people dislike me. I just don't understand why you have to take a problem you have with me to other sites who don't want to deal with the issue. I don't understand why you make a grievance you have with me here a public issue for Coyote or Fatz or other moderators who have expressed requests that these things stay on their originating places. It's insensitive, and not to me where I don't care at all, but insensitive to the others. And stop bitching at Cris because of me. Stop going and harassing people who have no control or involvement in what I do in an attempt to get at me because you won't confront me directly. This isn't high school. Deal with people like adults.

03-14-2008, 08:23 PM	#11 (permalink)
Siyu Suen Mask Wielding Overlord Has infected SLU with Maskeditis Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Carnivale Posts: 3,372 SL Join Date: 10/14/06 Business: Illusions: Masks and Unique Accessories SLShopper Ads: 10 My Mood:	God Joshua, stop being such an attention whore you big drama queen. /me goes and posts on a ton of forums how big an attention whore Joshua is, omg, did you see? Ok but seriously, I completely agree, and personally even if I do talk behind someone's back, I try to make whatever I say something that, if confronted, I'd tell them right to their face. But I'm a catty bitch sometimes (and a horrid elitist), so I'd rather my venom stay confined to one or two trusted friends.

03-15-2008, 12:03 AM	#14 (permalink)
Aimee Weber Queen of the Metaverse Edit Status Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,707 My Mood:	One thing I noticed about Josh, is that his principals rise above all. I think he and I agree with each other ... maybe roughly 90% of the time. I think he and I are simply ideologically similar. But that 10% ... whoa nelly. He fires at me with both barrels and doesn't hold the punches. So while I don't always agree with some of his methods, I will say that he doesn't play "local politics" sacrificing his principals in favor of cliques or "cool kids" or anything like that. You always know how he honestly feels ... whether he has to praise a foe or put a friend in their place.