Ten

Yeah, Gigs and Kess were all like, "We're sorry you're a sucker". And I'm all, "It's cool." and Josh is all, "So... Tenshi... what are you wearing?"

Well, that first part is a lie but they did apologize and I'm kind of amused that I totally played into hand in that manner. It's expected though, when I get something unknown that I'm not sure how to deal with I turn to SLU.

heh. Yeah, I depend on you guys. THERE I SAID IT. *sob*

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Siyu Suen

Well, Gigs would have contacted you first 'cause Kess and you are so close, and I think he meant it to be a community activity. As far as geeky coding and open source goes, Gigs was the most obvious choice for putting translatable codes into output and all of that. And.. you know... the site being REGISTERED to him was kind of a tip off

Don't worry Tenshi, you're not a sucker for playing a game. Otherwise I'm a sucker for enjoying Battle for Middle Earth 2.

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I'm attempting to bring about the end of the world to usher in a new era of mask wielding overlords. This is how!

Ten

Well, now I'm just all melancholy because I know they're going to Stroker's thing tonight and I'm not there. Also, have you noticed that it seems to be just you and I on the forum?

No hijinks. Guess I better pick up Josh's slack and start something entertaining on the board here... :\

Siyu Suen

We're SLosers 'cause we're not at the prom convention

Dance in the parking lot with me?

Ten

I actually looked into how much it would be to fly into Tampa last night.

Then my two year old hit me. lol

Shanti

Heh that was cyansunset.com which just happened to be the same as the name of one of the trailhead pictures.

We are still getting our stuff together on meerkat viewer, but we should have binaries for windows and mac up soon.

We also have our own jira, svn, mailing list, etc.

Gigs

Heh oops, I forgot to log in as me instead of Shanti. I'm at the airport now.

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Mourna Biziou

Gigs!



also:
haha

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Mourna Biziou

Gigs what was that stupid country song, city song or whatever? Plz tell me.

Also, were you the one with the Einstein quote in your sig?

Joshua Nightshade

Oi, space that shit out so it doesn't look like I was involved. I didn't know anything about it until Gigs told me it was him.

I did hit him though for making me yell at you.

Gigs.

Also what are you wearing?

Ten

Gigs.

FlipperPA Peregrine

Well played, Gigs!

I really need more sleep... didn't get in until late last night and now I'm at work.

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Gigs

Much of the music was from the 365 days project, except for the Ren and Stimpy workaday world thing.

WFMU's Beware of the Blog: 365 Days #230 - Outtakes from the 2003 365 Days Project - Part I (mp3s)

Country Song - Rossi Forgione - Outtakes from the 2003 365 Days Project - Part I - blog.wfmu.org

Rossi Forgione - Songs From The North (2000)
07[listen] Flamingo (1:45)
08[listen] Country Song (1:47)
Rossi was a client of our local mental health service and was part of a therapeutic music project that I read about in a local paper. I contacted the owner of the studio where the recordings were done and as I was the only member of the public to show any interest he sent me one of the (only) 50 CD's that had been pressed. Rossi is the highlight of the CD but there are other things of interest on it too. Turns out Rossi is the MC of "Club Wild" a semi-regular "all-abilities" night club that happens here in Melbourne, Australia.

About the Einstein quote... I don't think so, not on this forum. It's a common quote/sig.

Gigs

Gigs

Here's some stuff to wrap up the game:

Postscript blog post, read this, it's for you all:
Gigs Shrugged » Blog Archive » Shanti PostScript

All the web scripts source code and images:
http://www.shanti-is-coming.com/shanti.tar.gz

The crypto stuff I wrote by hand to generate some of the ciphertexts:
http://www.shanti-is-coming.com/encrypt.tar.gz

Oh, one more thing to add, I didn't originally imagine that SLU would be the primary place where the game would take place, it just sort of happened that way. You all working together so closely really made things move faster than I expected, which was one reason it did kind of peter out for a few weeks, since I had to work on actually making Meerkat ready for release and testing, rather than writing the ARG.

Chalice Yao

*grabs her mic and tackles Gigs*

"Mister Gigs! I'm Chalice from The Purple News Networks. plzanswerthenextquestionskthxherewego:

1. What are your thoughts about the also upstarting Imprudence Viewer

2. Can you see the devs of the viewers working together or exchanging ideas at some parts?

3. Do you feel the relationship between Imprudence and Meerkat will develop into a rivalry, a competition, or into a harmonic symbiosis with give and take?

4. You weenie

Fox Stirling

I totally called it and you all laughed at me, hmmmpf.

"7 Users Laughed: Aki Shichiroji, Circle Widdershins, FlipperPA Peregrine, Ingrid N., Joshua Nightshade, Siyu Suen, Tyche Shepherd"

Annnnyway.. all that aside, great job everyone!! And great job Gigs, most fun I've had in a long while that required more brain power than it takes to lift a bottle

-Fox

Tyche Shepherd

I was laughing with you .. as it looked like you'd pwned Shanti but we are all too trusting and took Gig's protestation of innocence at face value

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Circle Widdershins

lol, I was laughing at the 'out of my mind' bit, because that was totally how I was feeling about Shanti!

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Vaalith Jinn

It was tons of fun, thanks Gigs!

Gigs

The timing sure is interesting.


I'm not sure our goals are the same. They seem to be more about prototyping potential new UIs. We are specifically looking to build a open source developer community, a viewer that can accommodate that developer community, and refocus the viewer from being a way to access a Linden Lab service, to one that is more generic, while still being Linden Lab compatible. We would of course integrate any successful UI they developed.

I don't think it would be competition. They need more users and more types of users, and only a couple developers. We are looking to build a big developer community. They are looking to make SL approachable and simple, we want to make it more powerful.

I think it's a fallacy that people need to "intuitively know" how to use your UI. There are good practices, but at some point it just comes down to practice and using familiar paradigms.

Using a mouse with Windows for the first time has an extremely steep learning curve, and yet it's implicitly assumed now that everyone understands how the WIMP paradigm works. We shouldn't make up new stuff for the sake of making up new stuff, but there's no reason to change something just because the first hour user often fails to get it.

An example of this is Linden Lab turning on the useless "click to move" nav windows by default now. I'm sure that decision was backed up with tons of usability testing data that showed that new users often couldn't figure out how to move easily.

However it's the wrong solution to the problem. They need to be shown, taught, or indicated to the right solution, not given a more intuitive but ultimately unusable and wrong solution. Moving around the world using those click to move buttons is painful and frustrating. By putting them there, they may very well assume there is no other way to move, and then be frustrated that movement is so difficult.

I guess my point here is, sometimes it's ok to be a little steep on your learning curve, if it means teaching the user the right and ultimately more usable way to do something, especially when the alternative is leading them to believe a wrong way is the only way.

Yes. I have a bun though.

Gigs

Actually I never said I was innocent. I just said "I own a lot of domains I register on a whim."

Chalice Yao

*gets off Gigs, pats down the mic and turns towards the camera*

"There you have it folks, interesting times ahead. I for one welcome our new Shanti overlords."

Ten

Actually, let's ask Gigs what Linden Lab thought of his viewer at SLCC.