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Lordfly Digeridoo · 08-05-2008, 01:33 PM

Pleiades had a lot of libsecondlife contributors working for them. They also do a lot of non-profit stuff, I reckon they're probably poking around with OpenSim to cut down costs.

Fox Stirling · 08-05-2008, 01:37 PM

first part:

in any client~server architecture there is trust
the server shouldn't trust the client
should the client trust the server

second part:

poisoned shaders are the future but they will deny it

which grid do you trust

Raindrop Drinkwater · 08-05-2008, 01:37 PM

What are poisoned shaders?

Raindrop Drinkwater · 08-05-2008, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox Stirling

first part:

in any client~server architecture there is trust
the server shouldn't trust the client
should the client trust the server

second part:

poisoned shaders are the future but they will deny it

which grid do you trust

Duh. I kinda forgot to translate shanti.

Fox Stirling · 08-05-2008, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raindrop Drinkwater

What are poisoned shaders?

I have no idea, but its the only word I could come up with for that spot.

Raindrop Drinkwater · 08-05-2008, 01:40 PM

Same here. It *is* the right word. It just doesn't make much sense at the moment.

Lordfly Digeridoo · 08-05-2008, 01:41 PM

"poisoned shaders" turns up 0 hits on Google. We've won a Googlewhack, as I imagine it'll pop up on SLU now.

Fox Stirling · 08-05-2008, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raindrop Drinkwater

Same here. It *is* the right word. It just doesn't make much sense at the moment.

given the context, I imagine it has something to do with a type of watermarking security method.

ETA: IE: hiding extraneous info in the shader data.

Raindrop Drinkwater · 08-05-2008, 01:47 PM

I would welcome a way to watermark my SL products.

Carna Tunwood · 08-05-2008, 01:49 PM

I am seriously impressed by you lot!!

Fox Stirling · 08-05-2008, 01:52 PM

wondering if this really was a message from Shanti though, doesn't seem to follow suit with previous messages and delivery methods.

Abyssin Otoro · 08-05-2008, 01:54 PM

Note: Take in mind that we don't know (at the moment) if this is the Shanti that we have been playing with.

Also, poisoned shaders probably refers to putting bad trojan/virus code in the shader parts.

Raindrop Drinkwater · 08-05-2008, 01:54 PM

The riddle was very easy. Very unshanty like.

Dnate Mars · 08-05-2008, 02:01 PM

Shanti, was that you?

Fox Stirling · 08-05-2008, 02:08 PM

should send Swallow String back a notecard with the translation and a big "WTF? O.o"...

Abyssin Otoro · 08-05-2008, 02:29 PM

I agree with the rest of you (now that I have had a chance to look at it), esp. as both the web page and the twitter page have had no changes, even after it has been seen in this thread for a couple of hours.

At this point (unless there is some kind of verifiable confirmation), I would think that the notecard that I got was a fake from someone other than Shanti, and that we should disregard it (at least as far as this thread goes).

Abyssin Otoro · 08-05-2008, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox Stirling

should send Swallow String back a notecard with the translation and a big "WTF? O.o"...

Message along those lines sent. Swallow is offline at the moment.

Shanti, if you are reading this, can you please confirm or deny that the message came from you, through the normal channels of course.
Thanks.

If it isn't Shanti

, yes, we will find you....

Group members added to the information about the notecard. Ciphers & Shit

LoganBauer · 08-05-2008, 02:42 PM

Don't fall for it! Haven't you heard the saying "If you see Shanti on the road and he passes you a notecard, kill him"?

Fox Stirling · 08-05-2008, 02:43 PM

for the return notecard to Swallow String:

ok, we got the message:

at dty shanti~jnocno dosuainsiwon iunon aj iowji
iun jnocno juzwhgt'i iowji iun shanti
juzwhg iun shanti iowji iun jnocno

qzajztng judgnoj don iun xwiwon ewi iuny pahh gnty ai

puasu roag gz yzw iowji

----------------------------------------
in any client~server architecture there is trust
the server shouldn't trust the client
should the client trust the server

poisoned shaders are the future but they will deny it

which grid do you trust

----------------------------------------------------

huh, how about that...

and now, here's one for you:

---------------------------
gvotj ojrww regik cwgug wmbsw evn

rmsyy guocp fbucr bbiss ftfcw cverj imqe

umckf yusvp ffvwc hoxhu -yyhc gzsgx flsxf rebjf q
------------------------------

Fox Stirling · 08-05-2008, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abyssin Otoro

Message along those lines sent. Swallow is offline at the moment.

Shanti, if you are reading this, can you please confirm or deny that the message came from you, through the normal channels of course.
Thanks.

If it isn't Shanti

shoot

I just finished putting together a special message for them too..

Raindrop Drinkwater · 08-05-2008, 03:06 PM

The webpage still hasn't been updated.

Abyssin Otoro · 08-05-2008, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox Stirling

shoot

I just finished putting together a special message for them too..

I am sure that swallow will read it here...

Abyssin Otoro · 08-05-2008, 03:19 PM

From the web page.
"I didn't do it."

Repeat, the note card was FALSE, anyone that wants to follow up and find the impostor, good luck and light speed!

Shanti, Thank you!

Link to all the information I can think to record: Ciphers & Shit

Raindrop Drinkwater · 08-05-2008, 03:22 PM

Thanks, Shanti

Now about this next riddle?

(Although I'm not far from catching some zzz's, so you can wait until tomorrow!

)

Abyssin Otoro · 08-05-2008, 03:45 PM

Swallow is online...

Well, was.

All I got out of Swallow was : who is shanti

We all know Shanti is the quiz master for this little game, that allows us to have some fun when we really should be doing other things.

08-05-2008, 01:33 PM	#1926 (permalink)
Lordfly Digeridoo Grid.Living Bringing 8-bit back, baby! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,593 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 5 SL Join Date: 7/21/2003 Business: Grid.Living XBOX Leaderboard: 20^th Awards: 1	Pleiades had a lot of libsecondlife contributors working for them. They also do a lot of non-profit stuff, I reckon they're probably poking around with OpenSim to cut down costs. __________________ http://www.lordfly.com/

08-05-2008, 01:54 PM	#1937 (permalink)
Abyssin Otoro ...___... Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 60 SL Join Date: June 2006	Note: Take in mind that we don't know (at the moment) if this is the Shanti that we have been playing with. Also, poisoned shaders probably refers to putting bad trojan/virus code in the shader parts. Last edited by Abyssin Otoro; 08-05-2008 at 02:20 PM.

08-05-2008, 02:01 PM	#1939 (permalink)
Dnate Mars Tastes like purple Illyngophiliac Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Home Posts: 10,894 My Mood: Wordtris Champion! SL Join Date: 01/27/2004 Business: Scripter for hire XBOX Leaderboard: 40^th	Shanti, was that you? __________________ SLU Clubhouse - Open 24/7 Visit at http://slurl.com/secondlife/Tan/138/25/25

08-05-2008, 02:42 PM	#1943 (permalink)
LoganBauer knows no Wu-wei Edit Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,312 My Mood: Dancing Queen Champion! SLShopper Ads: 8 SL Join Date: 6/13/04	Don't fall for it! Haven't you heard the saying "If you see Shanti on the road and he passes you a notecard, kill him"? __________________ [Arctic Greenhouse - [Blog] [In World] [XStreet] ]

08-05-2008, 03:19 PM	#1948 (permalink)
Abyssin Otoro ...___... Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 60 SL Join Date: June 2006	From the web page. "I didn't do it." Repeat, the note card was FALSE, anyone that wants to follow up and find the impostor, good luck and light speed! Shanti, Thank you! Link to all the information I can think to record: Ciphers & Shit Last edited by Abyssin Otoro; 08-05-2008 at 03:32 PM. Reason: Added link to the notecard info.

08-05-2008, 01:40 PM	#1931 (permalink)
Raindrop Drinkwater dabbles with latex Shinyyyyy! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,476 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 35 Business: A2NZ: When creativity goes global	Same here. It is the right word. It just doesn't make much sense at the moment.

08-05-2008, 01:41 PM	#1932 (permalink)
Lordfly Digeridoo Grid.Living Bringing 8-bit back, baby! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,593 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 5 SL Join Date: 7/21/2003 Business: Grid.Living XBOX Leaderboard: 20^th Awards: 1	"poisoned shaders" turns up 0 hits on Google. We've won a Googlewhack, as I imagine it'll pop up on SLU now.

08-05-2008, 01:47 PM	#1934 (permalink)
Raindrop Drinkwater dabbles with latex Shinyyyyy! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,476 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 35 Business: A2NZ: When creativity goes global	I would welcome a way to watermark my SL products.

08-05-2008, 01:49 PM	#1935 (permalink)
Carna Tunwood Member Meh... Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: In the woods Posts: 47 My Mood:	I am seriously impressed by you lot!!

08-05-2008, 01:52 PM	#1936 (permalink)
Fox Stirling bunneh extraordinaire Can't sleep, furries will eat me.. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: At home of course! Don't be silly. Posts: 1,104 My Mood: SL Join Date: 08/16/2004 Business: Stirling Tech	wondering if this really was a message from Shanti though, doesn't seem to follow suit with previous messages and delivery methods.

08-05-2008, 01:54 PM	#1938 (permalink)
Raindrop Drinkwater dabbles with latex Shinyyyyy! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,476 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 35 Business: A2NZ: When creativity goes global	The riddle was very easy. Very unshanty like.

08-05-2008, 02:08 PM	#1940 (permalink)
Fox Stirling bunneh extraordinaire Can't sleep, furries will eat me.. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: At home of course! Don't be silly. Posts: 1,104 My Mood: SL Join Date: 08/16/2004 Business: Stirling Tech	should send Swallow String back a notecard with the translation and a big "WTF? O.o"...

08-05-2008, 02:29 PM	#1941 (permalink)
Abyssin Otoro ...___... Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 60 SL Join Date: June 2006	I agree with the rest of you (now that I have had a chance to look at it), esp. as both the web page and the twitter page have had no changes, even after it has been seen in this thread for a couple of hours. At this point (unless there is some kind of verifiable confirmation), I would think that the notecard that I got was a fake from someone other than Shanti, and that we should disregard it (at least as far as this thread goes).

08-05-2008, 02:43 PM	#1944 (permalink)
Fox Stirling bunneh extraordinaire Can't sleep, furries will eat me.. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: At home of course! Don't be silly. Posts: 1,104 My Mood: SL Join Date: 08/16/2004 Business: Stirling Tech	for the return notecard to Swallow String: ok, we got the message: at dty shanti~jnocno dosuainsiwon iunon aj iowji iun jnocno juzwhgt'i iowji iun shanti juzwhg iun shanti iowji iun jnocno qzajztng judgnoj don iun xwiwon ewi iuny pahh gnty ai puasu roag gz yzw iowji ---------------------------------------- in any client~server architecture there is trust the server shouldn't trust the client should the client trust the server poisoned shaders are the future but they will deny it which grid do you trust ---------------------------------------------------- huh, how about that... and now, here's one for you: --------------------------- gvotj ojrww regik cwgug wmbsw evn rmsyy guocp fbucr bbiss ftfcw cverj imqe umckf yusvp ffvwc hoxhu -yyhc gzsgx flsxf rebjf q ------------------------------

08-05-2008, 03:06 PM	#1946 (permalink)
Raindrop Drinkwater dabbles with latex Shinyyyyy! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,476 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 35 Business: A2NZ: When creativity goes global	The webpage still hasn't been updated.

08-05-2008, 03:22 PM	#1949 (permalink)
Raindrop Drinkwater dabbles with latex Shinyyyyy! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,476 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 35 Business: A2NZ: When creativity goes global	Thanks, Shanti Now about this next riddle? (Although I'm not far from catching some zzz's, so you can wait until tomorrow! )

08-05-2008, 03:45 PM	#1950 (permalink)
Abyssin Otoro ...___... Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 60 SL Join Date: June 2006	Swallow is online... Well, was. All I got out of Swallow was : who is shanti We all know Shanti is the quiz master for this little game, that allows us to have some fun when we really should be doing other things. Last edited by Abyssin Otoro; 08-05-2008 at 03:59 PM.

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