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07-23-2012, 01:04 PM
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| Guvnah of Caledon      Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Caledon
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Essentially the issue is that people do get different performance while at the same price point. Most of SL has no clue about this, and in any case the vast majority of 'lag' is self induced, with hardware the lesser factor compared to say, putting out unnecessarily inefficient content. Or your neighbours doing the same. If all products in SL were designed with professional efficiency, I'm sure prim / script limits could be raised many fold. I have to be a bit careful about how I say this, as some Linden employees (current and former) still reside on the estate, so I'll talk about this in historic context. Essentially, someone involved with Linden hardware was on my estate for many years. Policy was a bit more relaxed back then; I suspect this person had to leave and go silent a while back due to far more stringent policies. I wish them well; Linden and all of us are lucky that there are people like that involved. Some of the people really have gone beyond the call of duty when it comes to trying to deliver a good experience. Also a lot of the problems that Linden took the heat for, were datacenter issues. Stuff that shouldn't happen, that are paid for not to happen, but does anyway. While responsibility and accountability still have to exist, even so I can be sympathetic. If someone at a generally trusted data center unplugs the grid instead of the coffee machine, screaming at Linden won't help much. Data centers are supposed to have failsafes and stuff. I think that with hardware transparency, a differentiated price structure makes sense, if there are different levels of performance. Say anything more significant than a 10% difference. Then they could talk about hardware specs all day long. The reason I'm still sympathetic to simplicity is that SL is one of the most difficult, arcane, cryptic platforms ever to exist. "Why can't my friend rez a prim here?" ~ that instantly gets you into 'groups' and 'group roles' and deeding to a group, and so forth. Coldly logical but business stupid; there are so many simpler ways to handle it but none are possible. Cutting through SL arcana is big business; to a new resident the stepped tier, mainland / estate, groups, the permissions system all conspire to make simplicity very, very expensive. While I don't like it, I can see how basics like hardware transparency get sacrificed. It's not unprecedented; there are any number of MMO's out there that run on who~knows~what and nobody is ever going to say. Though at the end of the day, hiding it from residents may end up more trouble than it's worth. | |
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07-24-2012, 01:56 PM
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07-25-2012, 12:29 AM
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07-25-2012, 03:38 AM
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New class 8 could be 6cores x2=12cores....12x3= 36+HS, still the plataform is fast enough (and thinked to) to manage 4 more cores. I can't speculate about a real degradation in sim performance on new class 8, all depends on storage. Obviously a westmere based dual socket system has faster and larger HDs inside. | |
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08-03-2012, 08:06 AM
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| Fortuna vitrea est        *SLU Supporter*   
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| Late as promised here is last weeks report based on the state of the grid last sunday (29th July) , In the week to then we saw a net fall of 95 regions. The loss was all amongst private estates. Much of this loss was down to the removal of the RFL regions.Gridsurvey.com is still reporting 23rd July as the last surveyed date. The website will be updating today as surveys are loaded. Total number of Main Grid regions as of last Sunday is29388 ( 22272 private estates & 7116 Linden owned) 37 new regions were added and 11 returned to the grid, with 143 regions removed (17 were renamed and 0 came and went since last report) There were no particular high losses noted amongst individual estates except for the 39 RFL regions which went off line. Adult rated regions increased by 20 to 3589 (12.2% of the grid) whilst General rated fell by 39 (all RFL regions were General) to 4380 (14.9%) Breakdown of current regions by Ownership and Classification:
Breakdown of Host Server Classes by Ownership:
The 48 new/returned regions are : Code: Atroth Staging AVAL Baha Beach Beachcomber Oasis ª City of Venna ª daddy Dark Gora Diesel Island Dixon Exchange Dream Island ª EDEN WOODLANDS ExtremeFetish Fallen ª Fielding Graduate Univ ª ForbiddenLove Gennesis Goodnarik Grimalkin Isle Hyde Park Ichrak Island Lazy ª Le Bistro Mainstore London Community LOVIT Avatars makeups MJJ Gardens Mondscheininsel Moonlight Hollow MoonStar Nysray Staging Oasis Central Oasis North Oasis South One Love ª Puppy Galore RBM Rokeden Saminekim Staging Seabrook ª Skittles SOUL ª Tequila Moon The Moon Guardians TOUCH OF CLASS ª Turtle Cove ª Unttan Staging VegaCelli Zlin The 143 regions no longer on the grid are : Code: 3D Island Agua Soledad Aksum Ambria Anacapa arabian four seasons Arutua Bay Ashmore Island Beach Island BlackStar City Bliss Blue diamont Butterfly Paradise Caledon Loch Avie Cancao Nova 4 Caraibes Reunite Chez Moi Christmas in Galveston Corleone Costa del Mar Creekview Destinys Gate Deviant Island Dragon Bay Eastern Isle EQuality Excalibur IIOLD Eztli Calli Fall Island FanTasy FarM Fashion Center Franco RP Galveston Island Genevieve Gephyra Island Grand World Greater Manchester Harambee Hawksnest Highland Meadow 1 Home Bound India Parks Island of Fame Isle of Lesbos Isola Bella Iwish Inc je suis Jungleboys Tribal Beach Kiff Kronberg KybernEthik 1 LaPetite Las Delicias Legion Dark Lusts Lendas Urbanas LMU Psychology Island Magnolia Breeze Maldives Sand Mariposa Beach Mariposa Falls MAV Morning Mist Nanea Isle Nidom North Aksum Oyakata home Paradise Wilde Phoenix Delectable Port Dervon Port of Slaves Raptura Ravenwood RedStorm CorpOLD RELAY FOR LIFE Ressort RFL Acceptance RFL Advocacy RFL Awareness RFL Care RFL Celebrate RFL Comfort RFL Courage RFL Cure RFL Dedication RFL Embrace RFL Enlightenment RFL Family RFL Fight Back RFL Give RFL Healing RFL Hero RFL Hope RFL Imagine RFL Journey RFL Knowledge RFL Life RFL Manage RFL Overcome RFL Pledge RFL Prevention RFL Recovery RFL Reflection RFL Remember RFL Research RFL Screening RFL Spirit RFL Strength RFL Strides RFL Support RFL Survive RFL Treatment RFL Unity RFL Volunteer RFL Wish Roost Rosenthal Royal Gardens Sail Beach sajima Sao Paulo Seel Circuit Shangri Laa Sugarlicious Summer Feeling Taj Mahal Zyngo Tamarua Bay Tesis Tevada THE EMPIRE CLAN Timeless Tribal Eden Tribal Oasis Tribal Quays Trompe Loeil Prefabs Tupelo ULM CEHD UNION Vassnia Vindarkis WHISKEY RIVER Wilsons Cove Wynchester Hope LLC Zamara Of these 17 are renames : Code: Creekview ==> Moonlight Hollow Destinys Gate ==> One Love Dragon Bay ==> Baha Beach Home Bound ==> VegaCelli Iwish Inc ==> Dream Island Jungleboys Tribal Beach ==> Oasis Central Kiff ==> Dixon Exchange MAV ==> LOVIT Avatars Nanea Isle ==> Beachcomber Oasis Phoenix Delectable ==> Tequila Moon Port of Slaves ==> Mondscheininsel Rosenthal ==> Le Bistro Mainstore Shangri Laa ==> Puppy Galore Taj Mahal Zyngo ==> AVAL Tribal Eden ==> EDEN WOODLANDS Tribal Quays ==> Oasis North Trompe Loeil Prefabs ==> Hyde Park
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The following 9 regions were on the grid but marked as down when the last survey was run:
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08-04-2012, 08:20 AM
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| Fortuna vitrea est *SLU Supporter*
Cherry red lips and sick on
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| Here are the results of the July 2012 Private Estate Survey. based on a sample of 5000 randomly selected private estate regions selected to estimate Full/Homestead/Openspace penetration. The results are as follows:
Of the 4339 accessible regions , 56.5% are Full Regions, 42.8% are Homesteads and 0.7% are Openspaces. The Margins of Error are +/-1.32% , +/- 1.32% and +/-0.22% respectively for the three figures figure at the 95% confidence level. This is more or less the same as last week with Full regions this month down 0.1% share since last months survey and both Homesteads and Openspaces up by 0.1%. During this period Private estates had a net loss of 402 Regions to a total of 22225 representing a monthly decline of 1.8% , much more than last months 0.5% loss. The proportion closed to public access was down by 1.2% on last month at 13.2%. 5 of the Full Regions were Linden Developed Regions (i.e. sold new with content) but no Linden Developed Homesteads were included in the sample this month. Again as with all previous months this is too small penetration to estimate total number. 815 of the 1829 (43.9%) Homestead regions were at the new non-grandfathered rate, this is a significant rise of 2.4% from last months (41.5% ). Taking these figures a good estimate of private estate tier due each month is US$4,621,000 +/- US$54,000 . (Calculated using known grandfathering rates but excludes any academic reductions and is rounded to the closest US$1000), this figure is down on last month's estimate of US$4,706,000 by $88,000 , a significant fall of about 1.9%. The top 20 landowners currently control 36.1% (+/- 1.3%) of private estate regions, This 1.3% up on last month , using list prices their holdings are up 1.7% to 31.5% of total private estate tier. The figures for the top 10 landowners are 27.2% (+/- 1.2%) of regions and 22.8% of tier (the larger estates tend to have a bigger proportion of homesteads than smaller estates). This share for the top 10 is 1.7% up on last months figure of 25.5% of private estate regions. The Top 10 Full Region/Homestead/Openspace proportions are 39.8%/60.2%/0.0% and 40.0%/60.0%/0.0% for the top 20 The Top 20 Estates by number of regions held are as follows:
The largest climber this month was the ACS Azure Islands estate up 0.7% since last time, The biggest losses were the ACS Barbie Chung & Judy Chung estates which disappeared off the radar this survey. The ACS total Share of Private Estates overall grew a little to 12.1%( +/-0.9%) up 0.4%. The Margins of error for these Estate shares range from +/-0.6% for the largest down to +/- 0.3% for the smallest so some of the ranking especially between 11th and 20th place may be slightly off. These rankings are purely on number of regions owned and are not based on FRE numbers . The regions were running on the following distribution of server class
Survey Details: This survey was based on a random sample of 5000 private estate regions drawn from all 22225 private estates on the grid on 1st August 2012. The actual surveying took place on 3rd to 4th August 2012. A further 18 regions were randomly selected to top up the sample, replacing those regions which were unavailable (other than closed to public access) at the time of surveying. |
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08-04-2012, 10:44 AM
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| Member
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My Mood: | Impressive drop indeed !! IMO August will be flat, we'll see in the fall if LL will be able to attract new stable customers instead of a persistent legion of idiots who compulsively attending adult regions without spending a penny or rent land. LL has a lot of new zero linden users, they are useless to the grid, they are like tourists who remain a half-day in city, eating a sandwich made at home. This "join is free!!" do not run anymore, I'd go for the payment of an economic membership to access in SL. Last edited by RandomCruiser; 08-04-2012 at 10:45 AM. Reason: typo |
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08-04-2012, 12:13 PM
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08-04-2012, 03:55 PM
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| Just another Muppet. *SLU Supporter* 
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I can't recall SL had such reviews ever. So it would be very doubtful that I would ever started in SL if I had to pull the CC at the entrance. | |
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08-05-2012, 01:04 PM
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| Fortuna vitrea est *SLU Supporter*
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| This week saw a net loss of 71 regions, Private Estates were down by 72 whilst Linden Owned grew by 1 Total number of Main Grid regions is now 29317 ( 22200 private estates & 7117 Linden owned) 69 new regions were added and 21 returned to the grid, with 159 regions removed (40 were renamed and 1 came and went since last report) ACS lost 26 regions across 3 of their sub-estates and the 4 Hair Fair Regions went off line , but the rest of the losses were across a large range of estates with no particular estate down by any significant number Adult rated regions grew by 7 regions to 3596 (12.3% of the grid) whilst General rated were down 25 to 4355 (14.9%) Breakdown of current regions by Ownership and Classification:
The number of regions hosted on Class 8 servers increased again this week to at least 343 Breakdown of Host Server Classes by Ownership:
The 90 new/returned regions are : Code: Ablach Alchira Animus Utopia ASIX Bella Ciao Bloobury Bay Buccaneers Cove Copacabana Brasil ª Crystal Cruise Isle DANTEL ª Deadly Drama ª Demonic Island Distraction Donut Enchanted Hills ª ETERNAL SAPHIR LOVE Fall Island ª Fashion Voodoo Flash Works France black angels Fresco Furrland Gandhara Gearheads Glazed ª Invictus Enity ll Joys Crossing Kody KSA INVISIBLE ª Little Secret ShangriLa Lost Dreams Island Luma Sea LunaMar Performing Arts Malignance Mystical Fantasy ª Mystical Oasis ª Mystical Ocean Nevaehs island Nintin Island Nisyros Oceana East Outer Wastelands Perizada PLANET NEXIS Playtime Purple Paradise Island Red ª Reedtopia ª Rockin Blondes SANADA CLAN Sandalwood Landing Saphiville ª Seductive Whisper Sensi Shags Oasis South ª Sky Mark North ª Snickers ª Stand By Me ª Starfish ª SummerBreeze ª Tipani total UCG SimHub - USC Upstate Nursing Ed UCG SimHub - USC Upstate Nursing He UFS Pinastri Colony VIVID ANIMATIONS ª wayout WideWorld WideWorld Amethysta WideWorld Coast WideWorld Creators Island WideWorld Diamond WideWorld Estella Wideworld First Paradise WideWorld HB Paradise WideWorld Mykonos WideWorld New City WideWorld New Island WideWorld North WideWorld Objective WideWorld Paradisiacal WideWorld Progress WideWorld Progress 2 WideWorld PRPS WideWorld Pure Life WideWorld Vezuvio WideWorld Victory Woodbine Downs South World ª Zombie island ª The 159 regions no longer on the grid are : Code: 1891 Admicile AehhMeow Aeonia AL RAHA BEACH AL RAHA BEACH2 Amethysta Angel Bay Armona Island ASIAN DREAM KENJIN Asphodel Meadows Auroa Bay Auto 2 AZEROTH Bat Cove Island Bathory Beimini Bell Estates Sandbox Beyond Darkness Botany dAlliez Brave Heart Britonia Butterfly Paradise Bymoor Chez Pat City of Zitterd Clemson University Dev Clemson University GS Cozy Island Creators Island Crush Dark Dreams Deluxe Dove DQ Dance Festival DQ Stages Dreams of Devotion Ellipsis Epitaph Estella First Paradise Flower Island Focus2 Giionist Head Temple Gorsimi Guardian Spirit Prime Hair Fair - Flower Hair Fair - Garden Hair Fair - Sand Hair Fair - Water Harpers Point HB Paradise Independent Pride Infinite Blonde Isle of Legacies Jador Fashion JAPAN DREAM KENJIN JILL Joys Crossing at Poly Jungle of Korat Kekule Land of Zorric LCMedia les anges Liquid State LISBOA XXI Locked and Loaded Loire Valley Loisirs creatif Long Islands Lost Oasis Lovers Isle Maelstrom Estate MALANDI Mariposa Falls Master Central Master Colorado Master East Master Freiburg Master Maryland Master Miami Master North Master Saigon Master South Master Tokyo Master Unthemed Master West New City New EarthStar Island New Island Objective Oceania Isles Odyssey Island Pain Confessor PaNoRaMa PaNoRaMa GaMeS Paradise Sweet Dreams Paradisiacal Perfect Dreams Progress Progress 2 Pure Hearted Pure Life Reaktor REINO DE ESPANAII Relentless Romeo Paradise Rose Petal Island RoYaL LiFe 4 SANADA SANADA2 Sandalwood Saradipity Sawao Seduction Sempre il mio Sentiments by Sidda Shepherds Lagoon SHU Nursing Sonoma SoulShine South Charleston Splashed Starfleet Sector001 Steamland Summerland Keys Sunnydale FL Sunrise Isle Tai Pan Telemaque TenFifteen The Hearth The Rose Kingdom This Way Thorium Tibor TK Genesys South TOP Q8 Tranquil Nights Transattera Tru City Twink Lake Ubu Uccello UFS Colony Pinastri ª UnderTheHill Uranus Uriah del Sueno Uriah del Viente Vamporium Vezuvio Victory VirCol 3 White Wilderland Willow Creek Woody Island Wu Hai Lung xun Of these 40 are renames : Code: AehhMeow ==> WideWorld Mykonos Aeonia ==> Nintin Island Amethysta ==> WideWorld Amethysta Chez Pat ==> Demonic Island Clemson University Dev ==> UCG SimHub - USC Upstate Nursing Ed Clemson University GS ==> UCG SimHub - USC Upstate Nursing He Cozy Island ==> Purple Paradise Island Creators Island ==> WideWorld Creators Island Dark Dreams ==> World Epitaph ==> KSA INVISIBLE Estella ==> WideWorld Estella First Paradise ==> Wideworld First Paradise Giionist Head Temple ==> Bloobury Bay Guardian Spirit Prime ==> Fresco HB Paradise ==> WideWorld HB Paradise Infinite Blonde ==> Rockin Blondes Joys Crossing at Poly ==> Joys Crossing les anges ==> France black angels Liquid State ==> Crystal Cruise Isle New City ==> WideWorld New City New EarthStar Island ==> LunaMar Performing Arts New Island ==> WideWorld New Island Objective ==> WideWorld Objective PaNoRaMa ==> Animus Utopia Paradisiacal ==> WideWorld Paradisiacal Progress ==> WideWorld Progress Progress 2 ==> WideWorld Progress 2 Pure Life ==> WideWorld Pure Life SANADA2 ==> SANADA CLAN Sandalwood ==> Sandalwood Landing Starfleet Sector001 ==> UFS Pinastri Colony Sunnydale FL ==> ASIX The Hearth ==> Lost Dreams Island Tibor ==> DANTEL Tranquil Nights ==> Perizada UFS Colony Pinastri ==> UFS Pinastri Colony UnderTheHill ==> PLANET NEXIS Vezuvio ==> WideWorld Vezuvio Victory ==> WideWorld Victory Wilderland ==> Tipani
Estate groupings coming online
The following 3 regions were on the grid but marked as down when the last survey was run:
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08-05-2012, 03:19 PM
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08-05-2012, 05:05 PM
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08-05-2012, 06:54 PM
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08-10-2012, 11:26 AM
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Business: WRE / K Di Designs / VLex / Kitty Kat
| If i'm not mistaken I remember when I first created an account on Xstreet (marketplace today) I read about a rule that I was not allowed to sell stuff at prices that would have a negative impact on the market. So in other words dont undercut everyone by too much and dont give away stuff for free. I never really noticed people obeying that rule though. I guess it might also be too difficult for LL to control. As long as most stuff can be obtained for free or maybe 1 - 10 L$ there will always be a large amount of cheap skates around or people not willing to pay for anything at all. I have some friends and when they bring their RL friends to SL the first thing they show them are all the hunt groups and they tell their friends; Just do those hunts and you get quality stuff and everything for free!. I understand it's a great way for retailers to be discovered but at the same time all retailers together are shooting themselves in the foot by overwhelming people in freebies. Personally I think a good way to get rid of the freebie and wallmart mentality is to introduce business licenses and higher ranked classified ads for those with older licenses. Only serious people should be selling stuff so no need to attract people with freebies anymore just to get some attention from a mass crowd all looking for free stuff. It will also improve the content quality on SL in general if people without licenses are not allowed to open stores (inworld or on marketplace). That being said, I can imagine it would kill the fun for a lot of people who like to experiment with new businesses or just love to create stuff and then give it away for free. To forbid all that would be a bit harsh too and would create a lot of new haters again.. I guess it's too difficult to draw a line here without upsetting the consumers or (starting) business people. I do agree it's time for LL to brainstorm on some new ideas. I dont think a paying membership to get access would work either because im sure it would shrink the user base again. Instead they should make it more attractive for those newbies (and older users) to spend money on stuff they want. Also the first thing noobs usually see are other noobs wearing freebies (from Freebie Island or Noob Island or whatever). Personally I cant even imagine me getting all excited when I rez on my first day and see people with HUGE UGLY bling chains and HUGE sneakers that look like boats. Many noobs dont even know that stuff is free, so no wonder they're not bothered to charge their account with money to buy stuff. I think it might also help to get rid of most of that junk. I know that sounds harsh but it doesnt represent the quality of SL that new comers see during their first hours/days on SL Last edited by Katya Dirval; 08-10-2012 at 11:49 AM. |
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08-11-2012, 05:12 AM
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This things need new ideas from LL, new regulations, a new and intelligent staff. I don't see it .....but only many persons happy to sabotage SL, after having failed in their attempt to make money. | |
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08-11-2012, 06:47 AM
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| Just call me Beth 
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Business: Faerycat Designs Client: Firestorm | I am getting so tired of the 'Only well known creators have business doing business.' Seriously, its pixels, and if someone wants to make something and sell it for a small amount, that is their right. And thanks a lot, I've been in business for almost 3 years now - I doubt I'm well known, and my stuff isn't too cheap, nor too expensive. I wouldn't say I'm serious in that I don't spend 40 hours a week working on business stuff. So, I'm neither: "serious Stilist/Creators and well proven Francising Affiliates" and so it sounds like you're saying I don't deserve to be in business in SL. Attitudes like that just, well, piss me off. |
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08-11-2012, 07:59 AM
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The business license seems a good idea for me, it could be for free...without money charge but nevertheless it should point out some rules to follow. In this manner all user could trade but remain within strict rules on proper business competition. I'll stop here because i am off topic, i apologize. | |
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08-11-2012, 08:16 AM
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08-11-2012, 08:30 AM
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08-11-2012, 10:22 AM
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Content has no intrinsic value it is not made by resources you again are attempting to use real economics in a virtual setting It does not work. Neither even in a real world has a market ever worked well by protection , guilds or whatever self justifying term you wish to use . The only value in a virtual world is imagination and creativity that resource IS limited . Those that display it will succeed those that do not will not however many barriers to others are created . Limits will stifle creativity and the need for it ., the same as it always has in the real world too. | |
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08-11-2012, 01:17 PM
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So if I made a good quality hair pack today with my own creativity and then set it for sale with full permissions on marketplace or inworld for 0 lindens. Then im pretty sure that just like Han said alot of people will open up a business trying to re-sell it. Since suddenly a gazillion people try to sell the same stuff people will only keep lowering prices to stand out from the rest and because it was for free im sure alot of people would just start selling it for 1 - 10 L$ .. im pretty sure that would upset alot of business owners who keep their skills to themselves trying to run a business that requires skill and creativity, which I just ruined by giving everything away to people who might not even know how to create anything. Ofcourse alot of people would appreciate my gesture of sharing with the community but at the same time im ruining people's business. So to summarize the point I was trying to make, from a business perspective all that free stuff on SL is not good, But then again as I mentioned before everyone is free to create and share it with others which is their good right. So It's pretty much impossible to draw a line somewhere without either upsetting business owners or just regular residents not interested in making money. I guess it is what it is Last edited by Katya Dirval; 08-11-2012 at 02:28 PM. | ||
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