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07-01-2012, 01:47 PM
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| Fortuna vitrea est         *SLU Supporter*      
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| Here are the results of the June 2012 Private Estate Survey. based on a sample of 5000 randomly selected private estate regions selected to estimate Full/Homestead/Openspace penetration. The results are as follows:
Of the 4280 accessible regions , 56.6% are Full Regions, 42.7% are Homesteads and 0.6% are Openspaces. The Margins of Error are +/-1.34% , +/- 1.33% and +/-0.21% respectively for the three figures figure at the 95% confidence level. This is a shift away from Full regions this month down 1.7% share since last months survey. During this period Private estates had a net loss of 114 Regions to a total of 22627 representing a monthly decline of 0.5% , sightly less than last months 0.8% loss. The proportion closed to public access was up by 0.9% on last month at 14.4%. 6 of the Full Regions were Linden Developed Regions (i.e. sold new with content) and 3 Linden Developed Homesteads were included in the sample. Again as with all previous months this is too small penetration to estimate total number. 760 of the 1829 (41.5%) Homestead regions were at the new non-grandfathered rate, this is a significant rise of 2.8% from last months (44.4% ). Taking these figures a good estimate of private estate tier due each month is US$4,709,000 +/- US$56,000 . (Calculated using known grandfathering rates but excludes any academic reductions and is rounded to the closest US$1000), this figure is up on last month's estimate of US$4,814,000 by $105,000 , a significant fall of about 2.2%. The top 20 landowners currently control 34.8% (+/- 1.3%) of private estate regions, This 1.6% up on last month , using list prices their holdings are up 1.96% to 29.8% of total private estate tier. The figures for the top 10 landowners are 25.5% (+/- 1.2%) of regions and 20.9% of tier (the larger estates tend to have a bigger proportion of homesteads than smaller estates). This share for the top 10 is 1.1% up on last months figure of 24.4% of private estate regions. The Top 10 Full Region/Homestead/Openspace proportions are 38.9%/61.1%/0.0% and 38.1%/61.9%/0.1% for the top 20 The Top 11 Estates by number of regions held are as follows:
The largest climber this month was the RGF estate up 0.3% last time, The Dreamseeker Estate contracted by 0.3% share this month. The ACS total Share of Private Estates stayed stable at 11.7%( +/-0.9%). The Margins of error for these Estate shares range from +/-0.6% for the largest down to +/- 0.3% for the smallest, These rankings are purely on number of regions owned and are not based on FRE numbers . June's list for the Estates in 12th to 20th position (In alphabetical order) is
The smallest of these is about 2/3rds the size of the current estate in 10th position The regions were running on the following distribution of server class
Survey Details: This survey was based on a random sample of 5000 private estate regions drawn from all 22741 private estates on the grid on 1st July 2012. The actual surveying took place on 1st July 2012.A further 55 regions were randomly selected to top up the sample, replacing those regions which were unavailable (other than closed to public access) at the time of surveying.
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07-01-2012, 02:52 PM
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| Fortuna vitrea est *SLU Supporter*
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| As is expected at the end of the month this week we saw a net fall,this time of 237 regions all amongst Private Estates Total number of Main Grid regions is now 29744 ( 22627 private estates & 7117 Linden owned) 92 new regions were added and 85 returned to the grid, with 537 regions removed (29 were renamed and 99 came and went since last report) A net fall of 237 regions is the largest weekly decline this year (though with good growth in the past 3 weeks June as a month one of this year's lowest declines). The decline is not unexpected with yesterday's end of month, though earlier in the week things were very positive with friday's survey showing 30037 regions online . This week decline wasn't borne by any single estate. Dreamseekers Estates were detected as having the largest decline this week , returning about 90, Weezles Real Estate were down 32,, Spirit Estate lands down 31 whilst FantasyLand dropped 14 and Fantasy Ventures dropped 9. ACS hand an overall net loss of 14. Most of the other big estates showed single figure declines. On the upward side were the return of the 36 RFL regions and a small estate which grew from 1 region to 15. This week's survey also marks the 6 month period since my 1st Jan 2012 survey. In the past 6 months the grid has declined by 1334 regions from 31078 (a fall of 4.3%). Private Estates had a net decline of 1230 from 23857 (5.2% fall) whilst Linden owned fell by 104 from 7221 (1.4% fall). Estimated Monthly Private Estate Tier fell from US$5.009M during December 2011 to US$4.709M for June 2012 a drop of $300k Adult rated regions managed to keep growing even with the decline, up 7 regions to 3530 (11.9% of the grid) whilst General rated fell by 39 to 4408 (14.8%). Breakdown of current regions by Ownership and Classification:
Breakdown of Host Server Classes by Ownership:
The 177 new/returned regions are : Code: Affliction Rising Agenais ª Alteira Amazing Dreams Angel Bay ª Angel Wings ª Animus Haven Animus Xtreme Awesomeville ª Bali High Beautiful Paradise ª Bella Tramonto Bewitched ª BIM City Bitch Tail Mesh Blossom ª Blue Water Lake Bornaraise Local Brasil Rio RPG ª BREEDABLE FOREVER II Brunes Estate Budan Island Buttercup Meadows Cair Paravel ª Caladan ª California Beach ª Calvados ª Calypso Cove ª Cats ª Celestial Nights CHK Waterway CHK Wilderness Ciarlatta City of Vigo Control Alt Delete Crush ª Cuddle Nest Dangerous Island Darc Souls ª Dark Mist Isle Darling ª Deluxe ª Destiny Paradise District Gold Dove ª Dragons Tail ª Draugar Ein II Ein III Etheliel Ethereal ª Forest Glow Grass Bank Hill Half Moon Key Harcassle HomeStead Harcassle Island Harveys Haven 2 Haven Beach ª Hazey Dreams Heretic Pass Highlands ª Inheritance Irish Christian Island Jungle of Korat Kava Kava Kittens Cove ª Kiwi Laguna Kohala Bay Larks Lake Little Cove Little Star ª Lorena Brown ª Lorien ª Lost Lagoon ª Love Beach ª Lovers Isle ª Lucky Star Ranch Maggical ª Magical Tales Misty Grotto MJJ Kingdom Moni Mystic Dragons Mystic Isle ª New Toulouse Jardin ª Night Dragon Nightscape ª Nyuko Olympus Island OneStop Sim Shop Online Friends Paradise Sands ª Peaceful Submission Island Phandom Port Meqara Point Presidential 985 Queensland Gold Coast ª Rebels ª REIGNLAND RELAY FOR LIFE ª RFL Acceptance ª RFL Advocacy ª RFL Awareness ª RFL Care ª RFL Celebrate ª RFL Comfort ª RFL Courage ª RFL Cure ª RFL Dedication ª RFL Embrace RFL Enlightenment ª RFL Family ª RFL Fight Back ª RFL Give ª RFL Healing ª RFL Hero ª RFL Hope ª RFL Imagine ª RFL Journey ª RFL Knowledge ª RFL Life ª RFL Manage ª RFL Overcome ª RFL Pledge ª RFL Prevention ª RFL Recovery ª RFL Reflection ª RFL Remember ª RFL Research RFL Screening ª RFL Spirit ª RFL Strength ª RFL Strides ª RFL Support ª RFL Survive ª RFL Treatment ª RFL Unity ª RFL Volunteer ª RFL Wish ª Right Click Delete Rio de JaneiroII Riviera Shore ª Rock Reef ª Sage Cove ª Samos Island ª Sandy Bay Isle Sandy Echoes Seduction Territory Sentinel Harbour Septem City 13thDistrict Serenity Paradise SFC Nova Solace Beachcombers Somerset Valley Southern Alpena Stratten Sugar Bay Summer Wind Surreal Gold Tempted The Bay Island The Lost Gardens The Tocana Colonies ª Triquetra ª Truk Twilight Dreams ª TwoStars II Unis Ac Uranus ª Vought Heights ª Way Too Adorable Whirlwind Wicked Shadows Worlds End Garden Yaboop Island ª Zonbi O Bakuhatsu Zoya Of these 29 are renames : Code: Ad Libitur ==> Lucky Star Ranch Akona Beach ==> Port Meqara Point Annwn Avon Valley ==> Budan Island Coya ==> Cuddle Nest Crystal Palace ==> Mystic Dragons Delirium Style II ==> Nightscape Doubledutch ==> Septem City 13thDistrict East Port Islands ==> Harcassle Island Forever and Always ==> Half Moon Key Green Day ==> Jungle of Korat Hazey Sunshine ==> Yaboop Island HUNG ==> Ethereal Ironbottom Sound ==> Pearl Harbor Kiwi Beach II ==> Kiwi Laguna Lakeland ==> Brunes Estate Lucienne ==> Solace Beachcombers Luxor ==> Etheliel Magik Eclipse ==> TwoStars II Manasis ==> Agenais Orange You Glad ==> Maggical Raiders Cove ==> Triquetra Scagnar Hunjer ==> Lorien Se7en Sins II ==> BREEDABLE FOREVER II Sea of Serenamor ==> Harcassle HomeStead Sentinel Harbor ==> Sentinel Harbour Stormlands ==> Whirlwind Waltons ==> Rebels Western Underlands ==> Heretic Pass Ziggy Played Guitar ==> Maggical
Estate groupings coming online
The following 40 regions were on the grid but marked as down when the last survey was run: (ETA : Regions being offline can be an indication of regions about to leave the grid (though not always) but they are counted as still being on the grid in my reports )
Last edited by Tyche Shepherd; 07-01-2012 at 03:34 PM. Reason: Current tier is US$4.709M not US4.009M |
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07-01-2012, 02:53 PM
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| Fortuna vitrea est *SLU Supporter*
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| And here are the 537 regions which left us this week : (Must ask Cris to raise the 10000 character limit for posts) Code: 5wa6r Aaden ª Abbey Accacio Isle Accio Acubens Ad Libitur Addie ª Adela ª Adina ª Agena Aguas Zarcas Akona Beach Alabama ArtsSciences Alajuela Allistar ª ALOHA to Freedom Alpha Lyrae Altea Amazon Developers 1 Amazon Developers 2 Amber Sky Amethyst Haven Amsterdoom ª Angel of Embers Anguissette Anjelica Annenberg Annenberg II Annwn Avon Valley Anteff Antinous Apis APORIA Arab World Argo Navis Aria Hills Arilou Arkab Isle Arlington Estate Arlington Heights Artemis Flower Atomix Island Australis Avior Baham Bajo Corrales Bambi ª Banks ª Battlestar DSE BAY BDSM CLUB Beguiling Bellatrix Beloved Place Berry ª BEVERLY SPRING BEVERLY SPRING South Beyond The Prim Bisbee Island Bitter Sweet Blackberry Island Blessed Cove Blue Steel ª Bluefire Bonita Springs Beach Bonny ª Botanical Brasil RPG Kombat Brook ª Broome Community College Bruised City Bufo Cajun Coast Callahan County Cancer Minor Caramel Carmela Carmiq Caron ª Cartmanland Casa Del Shai Cascading Falls ccs intemporel arkham Cedral Sur Champ ª Chara Charlevoix Chase ª Cheboygan Cherry Blossom Bay Chiva ª ChrissyFushi Cibao City of Chandler City of Discord City of Doors Claddagh Cleon ª Cooper Coral CORE Coya Creme DeLa Creme Crystal Palace Custos Messium Cyberdyne Daquiri Dark Island Darkness Falls Davon ª Delia Delirium Style II Den Kalla Kusten Denial Dentalium Depths of Desire Dharma Diego Disco Italy Divine Oasis DJ Life Dodo Donna Double D Stables Doubledutch Dragonbait Dragonfruit lea Dragons Fire Drake DreamSeeker Fashion Stage DreamSeeker Fashion Venue DreamSeeker SL9B Devet DreamSeeker SL9B Dziewiec DreamSeeker SL9B Iwa DreamSeeker SL9B Kyuu DreamSeeker SL9B Negen DreamSeeker SL9B Neun DreamSeeker SL9B Nine DreamSeeker SL9B Nove DreamSeeker SL9B Nueve DreamSeeker SL9B Tisa Drykes Peak Resorts Dunaway Early ª East Port Islands EL DORADO Electrix Enchanted Madness Enola ª Envied Paradise Epislon Eridani Eridanus Eston ª Estrela Estwilde Evadne Everlasting Grove Everlasting Hills Exotic Getaway Faerie Forest FairChang Wharf Fairy Dust ª Fanny ª Fantasie e Amici Fantastic Haven ª Faranth FarEast YachtClub Fielding Graduate Univ Firelight Island First Choice ª Fleet Forever and Always Forsaken Island Forza Frederici Honores Freedom Haven ª FruitIslands SL9B Fun FruitIslands SL9B Party Full Moon NoNa Gado ª Galactican Gallus Gamba City Gaming User Group Gaven ª Ginny Business Center Glasgow Caledonian West Glitz Globus Aerostaticus Gnostic Golden Pond GoldenSand Island 015 Gongolon Gonzaga University Gorean Lifestyle ª Gotcha Great World Green Day Gryphites Gygax Haley ª Hamza ª Handy ª Happy Hours Harbor Springs HardBeatZ Island Harmonia Dream Harveys Haven Hatters Retreat Hazey Sunshine Herb Garden Heredia Hidden Paradise High Reaches Hildesberg Hippocampus Hirudo Hish Hispaniola Holly Huertgenwald Humdingers HUNG IBM Singapore 1 IBM Singapore 2 IBM Singapore 3 IBM Singapore 4 Idylle Inspiration Cove Ironbottom Sound isenburg Island of Feelings Island of Naxos Island of Seduction Isle of Fortune Isle of Lolita Isle of Pleasure Isle of Supremacy Isle of Treasures IST Island Itazipco Ivory Izzyopolis Jacky ª Jade Paradise ª Janat Jayde ª Jazzy Jeddah Jeddah Sea Jenkins Jewel Jolly Jumper ª Jonna ª Jordanus Jump Start ª Kandy ª Karan ª Keena ª Kent Tuscarawas Cyberclubs Kisses KittyCatS SL9B BirthdayBash KittyCatS SL9B PartyTime Kiwi Beach II ª Knowing Eyes Kohr Ah Krynath KSA AL REEM Kzer Za La Familia La Kajira La Palma Bay ª Lakeland Laken ª Le Canaillou Leafy ª Limax Limerance Lobo Island Lochium Funis Loony ª Lotus Isle Lovey ª Lucienne Lush Beauty Luxor Lyman ª Machina Electrica Mackinac Island Magan ª Magi Port Town Magik Eclipse Magnificent Island Magnimus ª Malaysia MANALLAU Manasis Manchester Centre Maneki Neko Island Manis Mannaz Nauthiz Sowilo Maple Hill ª Mapo ª Marfik Marikina Marinia Isle Martieque Marvel Isle Marvelous Isle MATC MDACC Nursing Island MDV Forever Free Medallion Caye Medieval Carpathia Meiklewartle MENSWEAR Mercy Metro ª Mia Casa Micky ª Middlebury Miesha Milky Way Millennia Mirador Mireya Miris ª Misty Harbor Miyagi MohnLand Moochie Moody ª Moonlight Masquerade Moonshadow Rising North Muelle San Carlos My Sweet Home Mystic Gem Mystic Illusion nagasaki city Nakia ª NASA INSPIRE ISLAND Nashira Naughty Desires Neoma ª neuisenburg Nichi ª Noosa Heads Norma NU Genesis Nuevo Mexico Nunki Ocean Realms Barbary Oglala Olena ª Oliva Olympus Mons Optimus Orange You Glad ª Our Wicked Dream Pablo PaganRat Country Palmae Island Paradigm Paradise Rose Particle ª Passion Dreams Pawleys Island Peggy ª Pelican Island Penguin Harbor Penguins Hideaway Phenomenal World Pina Colada Plasma ª Plush River XVII Plutonium ª Plutus Polar Bear ª Polly ª Premier Press ª Prestige Cove ª Pricy ª Primera Isle Princess Island Pueblo Nuevo Puntarenas Puntarenas 2 Puntarenas 6 Quantum Breedables Market Ra island Rachelis Raiders Cove Rainbow Haven Randy ª RatTrap Raws R Us Recife Digital Red Dragon Fjord Red Rock Relax Bay ª Revenge of Time RFL 50s Weekend RINCON DEL NORTE Ring of Honor Rocafuerte Rocky ª Rokko Rosco ª Rosebridge Rotanev Rowdy ª Royal Commerce Ruby Cove Ruchba Ryder ª Sabik Sagapo Island San Isidro San Vincente SanMiguel Sant Vincent Sarin Scagnar Hunjer Scapa Flow Se7en Sins II Sea of Serenamor Secret Isle Seginus Sellars Seminole Sentinel Harbor ª Serendipity Shores Shadows Isle Sharlene Sheratan Shofixti Shorewood Beach Shurrikan ª Sibiu City Sicilian Sunset Bay Sihasapa Silent Lucidity Silvermoon Simba Sinful Lusts ª Sinister Beings ª Smarties Smooch Bay ª Smugglers Run Some Enchanted Evening SPILO CORPORATE St Vaughn Estates Starmist Starrider Static Nightclub Storm Stormlands Story Quest Island Suburbanos RPG Sugarbelle Suggerjitters Sulafat Summerside Beach Summerside Bel Air Summerside Moonlight Sunrise Horizon ª Sunrise Strip Sweet Escape Sweet Whispers Sweetie Tahoe Island Tanya ª Tanya 2 ª Tarazed TaRo Island Temptation Bay Tequila Cove Test Land Vix Texas Star ª The Greenlands ª The Killing Fields ª The Meadows The Nexus The Pirate Cove ª The Quest ª The Rift The Sails Third Dimension Titus Tomis Paradise ToMorrow Island Totally Composed Treasure Chest ª Tristan Tropic Heat ª Tropic Summer Twilight Highlands Tyrsis UAH Virtual Campus UH Cougar Island UT Austin 8 Vaca Blanca Vara Blanca Vawo ª Veep Vereor Vesta Villa RIca Villas del Sol Virginis VIRTLANTIS Vivid Eclipse Vulcan Wacky ª Wally ª Waltons Wasat Wasted Island Wazza Weir Point Western Underlands Whiterock Creek Wintermute Witchlands Wolfs Den Woni ª Woody ª Ysl Marine beach Ysl Vip Yutani Zarco 1 Zelda ª Zenas ª Zeta Ziggy Played Guitar ª Zion island |
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07-01-2012, 03:51 PM
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Business: monkey Client: dunno but it keeps crashing all the time | Down, down, down, until March, then up, down, up, down, up, down. But I am sure this means nothing. 
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07-01-2012, 04:02 PM
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07-01-2012, 04:09 PM
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| Fortuna vitrea est *SLU Supporter*
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| It has been pointed out to me that Spirit Estate Lands is a sub-estate of Weezles Real Estate (WRE) and the overall Estate Owner has asked me to combine these for future. I also have decided that since the ACS sub-estates can swamp the Top 10 Listings I will report the Top 20 from now on. However there is a big cavaet with this ranking as the difference between most ranks are much smaller than the margin of error in the sample The top 20 rankings for June are
The Top rank has a margin of error of +/- 0.59% at the 95% confidence level, the 20th has a margin of error of +/-0.25%. |
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07-02-2012, 02:17 PM
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If large estates are benefiting from special pricing, waived fees, and other perks (and it appears that some estates benefit more than others), the responsibility for that rests firmly with Linden Lab. I shake my head every time I hear a resident insisting that LL should lower tier rates, as if it's something LL hasn't ever considered (and I'm not addressing you with this, Mrs Chung, or anyone else in this thread). LL's land pricing structure isn't arbitrary at all. They are charging exactly what they know folks will pay, and any back-room deals struck with big estates are both voluntary and intentional. I strongly believe that the entire SL pricing scheme exists to balance revenue with support costs. Lots of sims rented out = more revenue; fewer total estates managing those sims = reduced support (and there are many reasons for this). Am I annoyed when I see another estate renting sims below MY cost? Sure, it blows. But they'd be stupid not to take advantage of any breaks LL gives them. It's LL actively trying to push smaller estates out of business we need to worry about, not the big estates themselves.
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07-02-2012, 03:14 PM
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I now see it is all as a matter of our own attitude we adopt when we see obvious perks being given out. I am no longer in a position to be disadvantaged by whatever new and wonderful concessions LL decides to dole out. In fact, if anything, I am more in a position of being able to take advantage of these concessions, on a personal level. Regardless, I inadvertently drew one of "them" out who stuck both feet in their mouth, and for that, and I regret very much. Silence is the greater part of discretion in such matters. So I will continue to do my own watch dogging, and perhaps learn to control my emotional outbursts as I hope "they" continue to practice the art of silence.  Last edited by Mrs Chung; 07-02-2012 at 03:18 PM. Reason: rewording | |
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07-02-2012, 03:14 PM
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Business: Faerycat Designs Client: Firestorm | Though seemingly lying about getting those cost breaks is pretty despicable, the fault ultimately lies with the person giving the cost breaks. |
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07-02-2012, 05:26 PM
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| And then the rest ... Today there was a net fall of 110 regions . At least 63 of these were ACS owned regions : Azure Islands down 23, Jessica Chung down 16, Barbie Chung 14 & Miriam Chung 10. The Lala Rentals estate also dropped 13 regions |
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07-02-2012, 05:46 PM
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Business: monkey Client: dunno but it keeps crashing all the time | Hypothetically speaking, what would people think of this: A previously unknown estate sim owner, puts 6 full prim estate sims onto the market place in Second Life. These sims are completely new, coming into existence on July 1, 2012; with no other sim occupying this location before. The weekly tier is 14,999 LD, although it is not advertised whether or not the weekly tier will rise above that amount as time progresses. (And the hypothetical investigator is too timid to ask whether there would be increases in tier rates; the name of Chung would be a dead give-away, you see. )The break-even point for a regular full prim estate sim is about 18,000 LD per week for tier. The break-even point for a grandfathered full prim estate is about 12,000 LD per week for tier. These hypothetical new sims are exactly mid-way between the break-even costs of a new full prim estate sim, and a grandfathered one. I do emphasize the term break-even in these costs. An hypothetical name for one of these hypothetical sims is Blue Water Lake, if anyone wants to hypothetically investigate for themselves. Thank you for giving this post the hypothetical attention it hypothetically deserves. Last edited by Mrs Chung; 07-05-2012 at 01:30 PM. |
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07-05-2012, 10:52 AM
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Client: Firestorm | i was just reading about an offer at SL Forum > Land, which points to same seller as for region [ Blue Water Lake ]..., and i surely will investigate further there, as one of their offices apparently is at one of our (RGF) regions, provided by a reseller. Nice catch, i got curious here. Last edited by Marcusgay Lefevre; 07-05-2012 at 11:51 AM. |
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Client: Firestorm | same person also posts in another thread, also at SL Forum > Land Quote:
I´ve not read all posts before, but i know there`s an hot and valid debat about tier rates, whether for grandfathered regions or regular. I`m trying now since Dec 11 to work against this price hunt  but always get kicked back by suddenly appearing "new" "estates" who offer unreasonable and unbelievable tier rates on their lands?  I just got some headaches... sighs...  | |
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The hypothetical people involved (estate owner and "sales" staff) have interesting profiles. I have spent some time studying profiles over the years in SL, and have come up with some parameters determining the nature of avatar accounts. My findings are never 100% accurate whenever crunch time comes, but I do know an "odd" profile when I see one. | |
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07-05-2012, 02:50 PM
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Client: Firestorm | One of our reseller just sent an alt to do a "test" sale there... the provided chat log has me doubting this person is seriously at all... a pity i cannot share the log here, but it reads all weird... here in germany we`d say like "it has no hands nor feet" or so...it is nonsens...and our estate owner and me find it pretty suspicious to be a scam. We got in mind, they could try to sell the regions full transfer, but w/ renters on it, claiming an higher transfer purchase for this... well, no idea what happens with the renter after that..., but its an option the estate owner of this regions already did in nov 11 regarding her SL forum posts. |
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07-05-2012, 02:52 PM
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Client: Firestorm | well, here the chat log, only names edited... i hope there wont be naive residents going for this kind of "deal", but unfortunately there always some who do  Quote:
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07-05-2012, 06:11 PM
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Business: monkey Client: dunno but it keeps crashing all the time | It would seem that this hypothetical estate in question, has its same NEW sims for rent as well as being available for full transfer. Although this can not be established as fact. But one fact we can establish is that this estate is leasing out these new sims at well below, what should be, monthly tier cost. Who knows who or what is behind this venture: (1) a rich person playing with SL ? (2) a person who does not understand the concept that in order to stay in business, what money comes in should be more than what goes out ? (3) Linden Lab itself trying to determine the correct price points to start selling sims again ? (4) maybe a benevolent rich person who just likes to make people happy ? (5) one of the land barons just trying to play with the heads of the other barons and smaller estate land owners? At the very least, my own curiosity is surely peaked, but only in an hypothetical way.  |
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07-05-2012, 06:24 PM
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Join Date: May 2010 Location: Krefeld/ Germany
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My Mood: SL Join Date: 23rd oct `08
Business: RGF Estates and Master S&M Estates
Client: Firestorm | as i tend sometimes to believe in conspiracy theories, I´d actually 1st vote for #5 But then..., I`d dare to add #1 and #2 together, hoping its the right, whenever sad, guess, as mostly the easiest answer is the right one. back to #5 i hope i`m able to say that the relevant land barons i "know" are serious and mature enough to know, that such attacks not only damage single or some estates, but the market and SL at all... but i`m just a noob in that, just managing my territory  |
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