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01-03-2011, 03:25 PM
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| Fortuna vitrea est         *SLU Supporter*      
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01-03-2011, 06:26 PM
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01-04-2011, 12:59 AM
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| Cool Second Life Reporter 
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01-04-2011, 09:46 AM
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01-04-2011, 07:30 PM
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| Feline Inner Core 
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Client: Imprudence  | Another off-the-wall question: Is your database able to be sorted by coordinates? I have another "Seconderth" project in mind, to visit and photograph the "ends of the world as we know it", the farthest sim in each direction. I can (and will) use the SLurl map, of course, but a means of verification would be nice, too.
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01-05-2011, 04:11 PM
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| Fortuna vitrea est *SLU Supporter*
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However to save you the trouble currently the two regions furtherest apart are Sunny Skies at x=523,y=321 and NextEd at x=919,y=2017 which are 445.8km apart , However NextEd is closed to public access so the 2nd pair where both are open to the public are Sunny Skies (again) at x=523,y=321 and GoldenSand Island 002 at x=937,y=1932 which are 425.8km apart | |
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01-06-2011, 02:43 AM
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My Mood:  SL Join Date: 05/02/2007 | Sorry to see virtual Holland gone... I had heard that my Dutch resident had gone to Inworldz and the dutch community there... I believe it now.
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01-07-2011, 11:40 AM
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| Emergency Mustelid    Join Date: Sep 2009
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01-07-2011, 02:06 PM
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01-09-2011, 05:28 AM
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01-09-2011, 10:35 AM
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My Mood: | Off current topic, but apparently SL New England is in serious trouble. There has been a group formed to save it. SLNE is kind of like the flagship sim collection for the United Sailing Sims of Second Life (USS-SL). |
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01-09-2011, 12:01 PM
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| Solace Beach Owner *SLU Supporter* Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: California
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Business: Solace Beach Estates
Client: Singularity | I can confirm that re: SLNE. I briefly looked into buying it. The problem is, it's mostly grandfathered Homesteads with 2 of the full sims being grandfathered as well. All would lose that status on transfer, making the existing tier rates for residents financially unsustainable, and therefore likely leading to massive loss of tenants. Doing a not-full-transfer would be risky and more hassle than I personally want. It's only 7 regions, and also smack dab in the middle of the USS, so not very practical for anyone looking to expand or acquire a Blake Sea connection (which I'd love, believe me.) It makes the most sense for one of the adjoining USS estate owners to buy it out.
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01-09-2011, 01:10 PM
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010
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I remember emailing the owner of these 7 sims last month when I found out she had to find a buyer real fast. I suggested to her to contact all the other estate owners in the USS-SL. I believe there are around 10 of them in total. The irony of this is, all those other estate owners, except for one, are her major competitors. If those 7 sims go, the bridge to the Blake Sea will be gone too, and Sudane will have to move some sims around to bridge the gap. Oh Lordy, this is bad. I really like SLNE so much - it is an area I haunt frequently, and even owned some land on Martha's Vineyard for a couple of months. | |
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01-09-2011, 01:36 PM
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| Solace Beach Owner *SLU Supporter* Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: California
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Client: Singularity | If it had been more sims I would have tried to wrangle a deal, who knows if it would work though. I don't like the idea of being sandwiched in the middle of a bunch of other land barons. Attached, sure, but not boxed in with no room to grow or rearrange. I really don't understand why none of them have stepped up. Do they want a big hole in their continent? Maybe they can't afford the new Homestead rates either. I'm sure the other USS Homesteads are grandfathered. |
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01-09-2011, 02:15 PM
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Here is a map of the configuration: Map of New England - New England Islands There is not much anyone can do to help the Village except to buy it from Gayle. The problems pointed out elsewhere in this thread are in fact real, and of course, all grandfathering is lost if the sims are transferred. Right now, two of the four full sims are grandfathered, and 2 of the 3 homesteads. There is an additional issue. Any new owner of these sims must be approved by the other owners of the USS-SL group. The Lindens have recently affirmed our right to determine the members of our community. This is not to say that purchase is not possible, only that any buyer will need to agree with the overall goals of the community. As is also mentioned here, should the Village disappear, we will shift our Island sims to reconnect with the group. Anyone who sincerely wishes to help our community, but who is not in a position to consider buying the Village sims, should simply buy or rent in the Islands. All residential estates are suffering mightily under the ill-conceived land policies of LL, and if people do indeed want to help they should consider investing their money in the estates that will be left behind. Thanks for taking up this topic, and thank you Ayesha for bringing this to my attention. Sudane................................ | |
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01-09-2011, 02:30 PM
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| Baby Baroness 
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01-09-2011, 02:32 PM
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| Baby Baroness
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01-09-2011, 02:49 PM
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| Fortuna vitrea est *SLU Supporter*
Cherry red lips and sick on
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| This week the main grid contracted by 17 regions, all Private Estates I also made an administrative change which correct 15 Linden Regions incorrectly classified as Private Estates (Last weeks arrivals of 4 Teen Grid Bonobo Isles and a further 11 regions in close proximity to these). Total number of Main Grid regions is now 31487 ( 24811 private estates & 6676 Linden owned) Jessica Chung (ACS) added 24 regions to her holdings and Phoenix Seelowe Estate grew by 10 regions , whilst Dreamland ACS dropped 53 regions, a further unknown estate lost all 11 regions (Berlin City) and the 9 region Fear Estate went offline 134 new regions were added and 42 returned to the grid, with 196 regions removed (42 were renamed and 4 came and went since last report) There were no major changes in Host Server Class Breakdown of Host Server Classes by Ownership:
Adult Rated regions gained 24 this week to a total of 2391 whilst General Rated also increased by 4 regions to 4542 Breakdown of current regions by Ownership and Classification:
The 176 new/returned regions are : Code: 0 0 Aguas 0 0 Almendral 0 0 Alturas 0 0 Arya 0 0 Aydeen 0 0 Mojacasabe 0 0 Palmera Afterlight NewMoon Air City Amaretto Ranch Haven Amber Dawn Analog Cove AnsheX ª Aquarius ª Arab CaFe Azure Island Barbarella Bernardotron ª Big Apple Brentwood Broken Trail Burning AfterLife Business District Hotel Camomile ª Capas Cape Alma caraibes pearl 2 Carlemma Tropic Carlemma Valley Cartagena Isle Catland Cavalier ª Champany at Finavarra Chapel Forest City of Kaiwa Corvega Crow Day and Night Day Moon Diamond Gardens DMHR Draconia ª Dreaming Pumpkin Dreamwolfs Sacred Realm Eastern Cape Emerald Plain ª Enchanted Meadow Envision Park Eotia Evermore ª FE Energy Following Seas Forever Dreaming Gaga Gathering Cove Gea ª Gigli Mountain Estates Gigli Mountain Retreat Gigli Wolf Island GoldenSand Island 007 Graulhet virtuel Green Hills ª Grotto Hippo Hollow ª Hobo Holy Islands Horseland Hostile Rabbit Imperial Roses Estate isla na bicha Isle of Picaroon Isle of Romantic Kanya Kliptor Krayiss La Bella Bonaire Land Of Kayos LaTouri LindenWorld D ª Little Britain ª Lorienta Luth Luv ª Madison Bluffs Maggical ª Magic Castle ª Magic Dreams ª Magnum Shores Makati ª Manila Marina Bay Sands Maui West Meadow Forest Meadowlark ª Medea Midnight Bayou Midori islands Mirages ª Mistilteinn MOJO Morning Mist ª myHorses Sales Yard Mystic River Neverland Island New Cruzoria Nile River Nuevo Arenal Oasis Isle ª Old Costa Rica Orgasmic Country Pacific Sunsets Paradise ª Pals meadow Paradise Resort Pasarella ª Peaceful Cove Pepito Peronne Airport Port Lilac Quality ª Quezon ª Red Dalia Reeperbahn Rockhopper City 3 ª Romantic Hideaway Romantic Memories Russian House Samba ª Sanguis Angeli SAS New Angouleme Savage Isle ª Seduction Shores Sekhmet Seoul city ª Silencia Slaughterhouse Sleeping Beauty Snakeland Southern Skies ª Springfield ª Starbright Sternentaler Stream Demon Isle Styleyon SuperDEAL Suwon Korea ª Sweet Dreams ª Tarlac Terra del Bonaire Tharna the body co The South Borough The Volturi Empire The Whisper Timeless Beaches TJ ª Tondo Torrid Rain Tropical Homeland Tunez ª Twilight Dreamz Twilight West Valarinde ª Valimar ª Ventura ª Vertex Vic Virtual Terrain I Wana Waving Palms Beach Westfield Winterfell Libris ª Winterfell Undertow ª WolfMountainResort Wonderful Wizard Wyrmwood Xanadu ª The 196 regions no longer on the grid are : Code: 0 0 Alba ª 0 0 Harmony 0 0 Seven 3MaioHmong Abode Agrestic Allied Base Alouette Always Hope Ambergris Caye Angel Devil I Angora Place Ashford Park Bahama Breezes BAYSHORE Beach Ride Beast Forest Berlin City Black Bend Island Blag Blanquilla Island Blaq Paradise Island Bourbon Concorde Bowie Palace Brigue Brittany Coast Bucuresti Caithris Coast Calabash Cay Canimal Canyon Lake Cape Verde Cats Celsia Island Chaos II Charming California christmas Christmas Decorations City of Elua City of Fear Clunie Cologne City Corporate Fear Crimson Rose Crystal Shores CZESTATE Maha Lekio Dancing Waters Dangerous Depths Dark Knights Domain Deadly Fear Death Ryche Empire Delusions Dirty Souff Community Diversions Down Under Dulcina Island Elcie Elements of Life Esperance Island EVLAND FYL Exotic Fear Fairy Land Falathrim Fayandra Fear Fenris Ferindo FiReStAtIoN FoReVeR Flamenco Forever Desire Ganeshas Footstool Ganeshas Pillow Giverny Glance Style Got Creamed Heat Relief Honey dAlliez Honfleur Idolized Imperial Rose Estate ª Inismor Sunset iRoqk Oasis Irrelevant Isle Isla del Mar Isle of Aurum Isle of Fate Isle of Indulgence Jazzies Ranch Juicy Island Juke Kallisto Aika Keeper Kemer Kent Island Kingdom Black Mamba Kittys Lag Free Laguna Arenal LaRosa Due Las Vegas USA Le Havre LEAP Island LEAP Island 2 Leoben Aries LG Sun LG Wind Linus LOC Island London Westminster W1 Lovango Cay Magical Rainbow 3 Magical Rainbow West meadow Medallion Mesmerized Misp Moonlight Mile Island Moving On mySLHorses Sales Yard Mystical Forest Mystical Paradise Narcissus Island Neart New TORINO Nickers Point Nightflowers Beach Oak Forest Ocean Club Ocean Metropolitan Ophite Island OXID eSales Pacific Sunrise Island PeachTree Resort Per Sempre Poor Impulse Control Prediction Princess Maria Island Private Love Proud Owner Purple Heart Radiating Realm of Chaos Redwood Rockcliffe X Salvation Island San Onofre Sant Lucia Saratoga dAlliez SAS Turkey Scrap Yard Seoul Korea Sexual Healing Shadow Chaser Shattered Isle Signa Silver Peak Slithering Soft Night Solar Ranch Steam Demon Isle ª Step inSide Sunflower Shores Sunshine Reef Surfing Paradise Sushene Nine Sweet Home Sweetest Dreams Sweetsuko Sweety Tennessee Falls Terre nouvelle Thorsteins Lair Thunder Dome 2 Tiny Kingdom Tiny World Tongo Island Torvald Total Fear Touch of Chaos Touch of Evil Una Eternum Unexpected Fear Unholy Fear Unity Coast Villela Viti Island Viti Levu VR Orientation Wallis Whiskey Creek Wineglass Islet WinterHawk Wolf Island WOLF MOUNTAIN SKI ª Woodhaven Worlds One Of these 42 are renames : Code: 0 0 Alba ==> Vertex 0 0 Harmony ==> Vertex 0 0 Seven ==> Pacific Sunsets Paradise Allied Base ==> Peronne Airport Alouette ==> Waving Palms Beach Black Bend Island ==> Afterlight NewMoon Blag ==> Twilight West Bucuresti ==> Aquarius Christmas Decorations ==> Westfield City of Elua ==> Chapel Forest Dark Knights Domain ==> MOJO Death Ryche Empire ==> Diamond Gardens Diversions ==> Corvega FiReStAtIoN FoReVeR ==> Isle of Romantic Glance Style ==> Gea Honey dAlliez ==> Little Wonders dAlliez Imperial Rose Estate ==> Imperial Roses Estate Juke ==> Hobo Kemer ==> Sweet Dreams Kingdom Black Mamba ==> Pals meadow Laguna Arenal ==> Old Costa Rica LOC Island ==> Luv meadow ==> the body co mySLHorses Sales Yard ==> myHorses Sales Yard Mystical Forest ==> Tunez New TORINO ==> Mistilteinn Nightflowers Beach ==> Sternentaler Oak Forest ==> FE Energy PeachTree Resort ==> WolfMountainResort Redwood ==> Dreamwolfs Sacred Realm Rockcliffe X ==> Amber Dawn Seoul Korea ==> Seoul city Sexual Healing ==> Southern Skies Signa ==> The Whisper Steam Demon Isle ==> Stream Demon Isle Terre nouvelle ==> Graulhet virtuel Thorsteins Lair ==> Stream Demon Isle Tiny Kingdom ==> Camomile Unity Coast ==> Arab CaFe WinterHawk ==> Mystic River WOLF MOUNTAIN SKI ==> WolfMountainResort Woodhaven ==> Cavalier
Estate groupings coming online
The following 9 regions were on the grid but marked as down when the last survey was run:
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01-09-2011, 03:08 PM
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010
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However, over the past year, I have noted real struggles for SLNE. In the beginning of 2010, even though the full sim prim parcels were hard to unload, virtually all of the Homesteads, which is the majority of the sims in total, sold well. Then about 4 to 6 months ago, even the Homesteads were hard to move. The deal may seem sweet, but as Sudane mentioned, residential land is really a struggle these days. SLNE's charging a price for land, plus the tier, may be an inpediment, although this has not affected Sailor's Cove. But then as for Sailor's Cove (another USS-SL), it publicizes that one can simply lease their parcels rather than "purchase". SLNE has not done the same thing, although I have been told by one resident of SLNE that leasing is an option, but I have never seen this publicized. Given that tier is quite a bit higher here, and for good reason, adding a purchase price to a parcel or a Homestead is discouraging, since most know by now that resale possibilities are next to nil in today's market. In any event, this has very little to do with the current issue of Gayle's 7 sims possibly going under. (Rumour has it that at least one may go offline even today as "we speak.") I am parked on Nantucket right now, acting like a captain whose ship is about to sink, willing to go down with it. Gayle has locked all the rental boxes everywhere, as far as I can see, so that no one gets hit with a loss by mistakenly renting some place if the sim is about to go offline forever. To know that USS-SL must approve of the new owner, which I can understand, really adds a layer to the process that virtually makes buying these 7 sims in a jiffy, an impossible task. | |
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01-09-2011, 04:15 PM
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| Aspiring Harpist *SLU Supporter* 
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My Mood:  SL Join Date: November, 2003 Blog Entries: 1 | I never understood the sweetness of the deal. I seriously don't understand the statement "The Lindens have recently affirmed our right to determine the members of our community." Well, yeah, any community with estates or Mainland holding has the right to determine their membership. When have the Lindens ever interfered with that? My impression was the USS community threatened to migrate to Opensims over the homestead pricing changes and LL "caved" into adding a load of ocean homesteads to the Mainland and allowing the USS to attach some estates. This seemed like a sweet boon to us old timers who offered to pay good money for such privilege in past days. But it obviously hasn't done them any good as those estates are "suffering mightily under the ill-conceived land policies of LL" and about to lose their Mainland connection. After all, it doesn't seem very sweet for USS or worth the bad will LL have incurred from the general population over the deal.
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01-09-2011, 04:19 PM
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| Retired from 1st Life  Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: My home is in Union Passage Sim
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My Mood:  SL Join Date: November 2004 | The SLNE Situation I have been alerted of this discussion here at SL Universe and have been asked to comment. There is so much to comment on. I along with my partner Nber Medici, own the 43 or so sims between SLNE on the north and Sailor’s Cove on the south, which we refer to as the Hollywood Complex and which is marketed under the name Hollywood Real Estate. Because of LL’s less than elegant land sale system we do want a number of other Real Estate Brokers do, we LEASE land (ie. You pay a monthly tier only (ie. no upfront “purchase”). However to advertise that the land is avaialbe for lease on the big MAP we set the land “for sale”. When a potential leasee comes by the info card on the land walks him/her thru a process to “buy the land” for the equivalent of one week’s rent. A notice is sent to us and we meet with the leasee. We refund the “downpayment” then help them set up their lease. The USS began when then owner of the SLNE sims physically joined the Hollywood Complex. The USS has grown to 11 sim owners and some 180 sims. Subsequently LL approached the USS and the Blake Sea Community Partnership was born. Last year Sudane sold six of her SLNE sims to Gayle Caberet. Subsequently Gayle has, or so we read, abandoned the sims. Since the USS has a policy that no new owner can join the USS without the permission of the owners Gayle cannot sell the sims to anyone that the USS would not approve. In the past USS owners that have abandoned their sims have either sold or given then to other USS owners. Oddly enough Gayle has been silent. Gayle has not approached any other USS owners about this, with the possible exception of the current owner of the other SLNE sims, Sundane Erato. Sundane is not in a position to help and Gayle has not contacted any other owners. I have tried to reach Gayle with no success. Regarding the economic environment that all USS owners as well as all SL real estate brokers everywhere face: When LL changed the policy disallowing grandfathered tier to be passed along they, in effect, price every real estate broker out of the market and stopped land development in it’s tracks. We can no longer afford to buy sims because we are forced to pay current rates for tier rather than the grandfathered rates the sim might currently enjoy. One wonders why a company would, in effect, raise prices in the face of the world wide economic woes every single SL resident finds themselves in RL. It is little surprise that Gayle cannot continue. She has to charge so much to make ends meet that she cannot compete with other brokers selling land that can be 100% rented. In the USS one of the rules is that at least 12% of the rental prim capacity must be held in reserve so that the “sailing first” policy keeps ALL USS sims free and open for sailing. If Gayle’s sims are actually allowed to be abandoned then all of the SLNE sims will be isolated form the USS, the Blake Sea, and the mainland. We obviously are VERY concerned about this situation and will be meeting our LL contacts whom we deal with regarding the Blake Sea Community Partnership. |
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01-09-2011, 04:45 PM
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| Aspiring Harpist *SLU Supporter*
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01-09-2011, 05:40 PM
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01-09-2011, 06:00 PM
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There is a a deep sadness that has fallen on SLVillage. I am so very sorry to see it come to this point. Our natural tendency is to finger point, but in this case, as in most cases, it won't really do any good in salvaging what I feel is an SL institution. | |
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