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Dnate Mars · 04-17-2008, 11:21 AM

Ben Stein is EXPELLED: No Intelligence Allowed

Will you see it? Why or why not?

**Vivianne Draper** · 04-17-2008, 11:27 AM

no. because ben stein is a donkey dick sucking neocon and he's boring

Cindy Claveau · 04-17-2008, 11:29 AM

I think there's enough disinformation in the media the way it is. Why would I want to put money in Stein's pocket when I refused to put any in Michael Moore's, either?

Pass.

Predreus · 04-17-2008, 11:33 AM

If I see it I wont be paying for it!

Asher Bertrand · 04-17-2008, 12:21 PM

Out of respect for him, I think I'll pass. I had a phone conversation with him once and he impressed me as a good sort. I don't want to sully that image.

Briana Dawson · 04-17-2008, 12:26 PM

Just another man with mad money and an agenda.

Michael Moore, Ben Stein, who is next? The cost of opinion persuasion in America is cheap.

io Kukulcan · 04-17-2008, 12:37 PM

I saw an ad for it late last night on the tv.
But what's it about?

Asher Bertrand · 04-17-2008, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by io Kukulcan

I saw an ad for it late last night on the tv.
But what's it about?

Teaching intelligent design in schools and universities, seemingly from the perspective that instructors who teach it are being persecuted.

Ben Hoark · 04-17-2008, 01:11 PM

I just wandered over and read the blog. It compares Darwinists to Nazis.

I invoke Godwin's Law.

Adana Ember · 04-17-2008, 03:01 PM

Yep ... I'm going to see it. The darwinists and anti-intelligent design people are so vitrolic about it that there must be something to it

... heheheh

Adana Ember · 04-17-2008, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by io Kukulcan

I saw an ad for it late last night on the tv.
But what's it about?

Basically, Ben Stein contends that if a scientist, teacher, professor or person of any intellectual credibility has the audacity to claim that there is a possibility or there is room for the possibility of a creator or intelligent designer they loose credibility, their jobs, cannot get or lose tenure and so on.

The movie is NOT about proving intelligent design over darwinism like so many critics claim.

Brenda Connolly · 04-17-2008, 04:10 PM

I'm waiting to see Stankleberry's Film praising Afiirmative Action instead

Cindy Claveau · 04-17-2008, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adana Ember

Basically, Ben Stein contends that if a scientist, teacher, professor or person of any intellectual credibility has the audacity to claim that there is a possibility or there is room for the possibility of a creator or intelligent designer they loose credibility, their jobs, cannot get or lose tenure and so on.

If they assert such religious beliefs in the science classroom, firing them (or at least suspending them) is the right thing to do.

They can believe it all they want. But religious beliefs have no place in the science classroom teaching children how nature works.

Bams · 04-17-2008, 04:25 PM

It violates the basic idea of separation between Church and State. There's too much church and not enough separation.

Dnate Mars · 04-17-2008, 04:32 PM

My question is not about the idea, it is about the film itself. I don't want to debate that here. Will you see this film? Do you want to see it? Or are you just going to avoid it all together?

Malachi · 04-17-2008, 04:32 PM

Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed--Ben Stein Launches a Science-free Attack on Darwin: Scientific American

This review echoes what many have been saying, that not only does the film contain wild fabrications, but that a number of people interviewed for the film (like the author of the linked article) were lied to about the nature of the film in which they are interviewed. This review - unlike plentiful others which say mostly the same thing - appears in a generally accepted magazine and has the benefit of being professionally edited.

Based on the reviews that I've read in advance of of its general release I concluded Expelled has committed perhaps the worst sin a film marketed as "controversial" can: it is boring. Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

Bams · 04-17-2008, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dnate Mars

My question is not about the idea, it is about the film itself. I don't want to debate that here. Will you see this film? Do you want to see it? Or are you just going to avoid it all together?

Well based on the two issues at hand, one that it's Ben Stein who I can't stand, and two the topic of the film, I am not interested in seeing it.

Atia · 04-17-2008, 04:36 PM

Nah, think I'll pass. Stein already has enough money. He's just stirring shit up again to make more. I can think of better uses for my hard-earned $$.

Brenda Connolly · 04-17-2008, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dnate Mars

My question is not about the idea, it is about the film itself. I don't want to debate that here. Will you see this film? Do you want to see it? Or are you just going to avoid it all together?

I'll pass. I have no wish to contribute to Ben Stein's Money.

Adana Ember · 04-17-2008, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dnate Mars

My question is not about the idea, it is about the film itself. I don't want to debate that here. Will you see this film? Do you want to see it? Or are you just going to avoid it all together?

... well ... its hard not to talk about the "idea" when that is what determines whether or not you see the film ... but I won't debate anyone, promise

Cindy Claveau · 04-17-2008, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adana Ember

... well ... its hard not to talk about the "idea" when that is what determines whether or not you see the film ... but I won't debate anyone, promise

It's ok, Adana. Dnate thinks he owns this thread

Edav Nomad · 04-17-2008, 06:22 PM

I'll watch it the same way I would have watched the crap Michael Moore put out, by being paid to.

Bams · 04-17-2008, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edav Nomad

I'll watch it the same way I would have watched the crap Michael Moore put out, by being paid to.

Where do you sign up for that job? I wanna get paid to watch movies.

Dnate Mars · 04-17-2008, 11:22 PM

Really, I see this no better then the many other "documentaries" out there in the Michael Moore region of things. I will probably see it... sometime, maybe. I mean, I just got around to watching an "Inconvenient Truth" after all. I still have to watch Bowling for Columbine, however. Yeah, I am behind on my movie watching, so be it

And for the record, I am sure this film will be full of crap. But we can talk about that once the movie comes out. I just wanted to see if anyone here was going to see it.

Fmeh · 04-18-2008, 04:54 PM

Quote:

By the time the camera zooms in on the word ''Creator'' in the Declaration of Independence, the whole debate seems less urgent than getting out of the theater.

Nope, not something I'll see unless either someone else is paying for it or it's SOMEHOW free. I really hate the dominionism movement.

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Asher Bertrand Dead Guy Creaking watermelons Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 7,118 My Mood: Blog Entries: 2	Out of respect for him, I think I'll pass. I had a phone conversation with him once and he impressed me as a good sort. I don't want to sully that image. __________________ Ring the bells that still can ring Forget your perfect offering There is a crack in everything That's how the light gets in.

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Atia A Hand Full Just a Heel Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,160 My Mood: SL Join Date: 12/23/07	Nah, think I'll pass. Stein already has enough money. He's just stirring shit up again to make more. I can think of better uses for my hard-earned $$. __________________ Men are all alike in their promises. It is only in their deeds that they differ. Moliere

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Cindy Claveau Intellectual floozy "-ish" Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 13,571 My Mood: SL Join Date: May, 2005 Awards: 2	I think there's enough disinformation in the media the way it is. Why would I want to put money in Stein's pocket when I refused to put any in Michael Moore's, either? Pass.

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Briana Dawson Banned Loved by printesa Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Springfield, Illinois Posts: 3,981 My Mood: SL Join Date: September 23, 2003 Business: N&B Exports Awards: 1	Just another man with mad money and an agenda. Michael Moore, Ben Stein, who is next? The cost of opinion persuasion in America is cheap.

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io Kukulcan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: the wasatch front Posts: 2,157 My Mood: SL Join Date: 04/2006	I saw an ad for it late last night on the tv. But what's it about?

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Adana Ember Red Hed Extraordinaire Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 16 My Mood:	Yep ... I'm going to see it. The darwinists and anti-intelligent design people are so vitrolic about it that there must be something to it ... heheheh

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Brenda Connolly Un United Avatar Maybe this year Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Jerzee Posts: 7,698 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 2 SL Join Date: Jan 9,2007	I'm waiting to see Stankleberry's Film praising Afiirmative Action instead

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Bams Banned You can't give up on the World... of Warcraft! Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,448 My Mood: Poker Drop Champion! Frogger Champion! Bubble Bobble Champion! Bomb Jack Champion! Blog Entries: 1	It violates the basic idea of separation between Church and State. There's too much church and not enough separation.

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Dnate Mars Tastes like purple Illyngophiliac Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Home Posts: 10,894 My Mood: Wordtris Champion! SL Join Date: 01/27/2004 Business: Scripter for hire XBOX Leaderboard: 40^th	My question is not about the idea, it is about the film itself. I don't want to debate that here. Will you see this film? Do you want to see it? Or are you just going to avoid it all together?

04-17-2008, 04:32 PM	#16 (permalink)
Malachi the bathwater & the baby fish and bees are inherently sarcastic Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,666	Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed--Ben Stein Launches a Science-free Attack on Darwin: Scientific American This review echoes what many have been saying, that not only does the film contain wild fabrications, but that a number of people interviewed for the film (like the author of the linked article) were lied to about the nature of the film in which they are interviewed. This review - unlike plentiful others which say mostly the same thing - appears in a generally accepted magazine and has the benefit of being professionally edited. Based on the reviews that I've read in advance of of its general release I concluded Expelled has committed perhaps the worst sin a film marketed as "controversial" can: it is boring. Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

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Edav Nomad Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Behind You Posts: 4,805 My Mood: SL Join Date: June 12, 2003 XBOX Leaderboard: 4^th	I'll watch it the same way I would have watched the crap Michael Moore put out, by being paid to. __________________

04-17-2008, 11:22 PM	#24 (permalink)
Dnate Mars Tastes like purple Illyngophiliac Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Home Posts: 10,894 My Mood: Wordtris Champion! SL Join Date: 01/27/2004 Business: Scripter for hire XBOX Leaderboard: 40^th	Really, I see this no better then the many other "documentaries" out there in the Michael Moore region of things. I will probably see it... sometime, maybe. I mean, I just got around to watching an "Inconvenient Truth" after all. I still have to watch Bowling for Columbine, however. Yeah, I am behind on my movie watching, so be it And for the record, I am sure this film will be full of crap. But we can talk about that once the movie comes out. I just wanted to see if anyone here was going to see it.

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