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Old 11-11-2008, 04:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Twilight...

...was filmed in part where I live.

I don't know much about the books, other than they are about vampires. Still, when it comes out, go see it. You'll get a fair idea of what our lovely weather looks like.

It's like Britain, only without the cool accents.

The first time my father-in-law came up here from Cali, he said, "Holy shit! You guys live in the land of the vampires. EVERYBODY here is pale. Is there even a sun up here?"

They picked the right spot to make a vampire movie, that's for sure.

I hear the kids think this Twilight stuff is all the rage. Little do they know the serious impact of living the pale life. We really do burn up in the sunlight.
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Old 11-11-2008, 09:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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have you read the books?
my 11 year old daughter just picked up what i assume is the first one, is about 100 pages in, and is LOVING it.

anything i should worry about? usually i read whatever she is reading to vet a little, but this one was an airport-bookstore purchase that slipped by me.
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No sex until the last book and she sort of glosses over it. Some violence, although not terribly graphic. Um...

It's mostly a love story with scary bits here and there.
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i can't wait to check it out. she is really, really into it. she came in from the airport tonight, and immediately went into her room to read. no tv, no checking in on facebook, just wanted to keep reading- it MUST be good!
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have you read the books?
my 11 year old daughter just picked up what i assume is the first one, is about 100 pages in, and is LOVING it.

anything i should worry about? usually i read whatever she is reading to vet a little, but this one was an airport-bookstore purchase that slipped by me.
My 15 year old daughter is knee-deep into the second book with the third already borrowed and sitting on her nightstand waiting to be devoured.

The author is a Mormon housewife from Utah....
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Old 11-17-2008, 04:15 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I'm going to have to see this one. People are flipping their lid about it, which is really funny. I wasn't aware there was a film crew here until it was already gone.
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Umm.... okay maybe there's no actual sex but lets be honest: vampire books are just one big metaphor. That said I'd let my 11 year old read it- however, the fact that I discovered Anais Nin and Erica Jong's zipless fuck (and Bean :0 ) around 12 and survived may have colored my view. I did move it to YA when I found it cataloged in Children's though.

I liked Twilight well enough but got bored by mid-way through number 2- but I'm old and jaded. I liked Blood and Chocolate just as much as far as the genre goes.

I had no idea Stephanie Meyer was a Mormon! She and Orson Scott Card make it look not quite so wacky. Of course most of what I know about the religion I learned from South Park.
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My 30-year-old daughter devoured them in about 2 weeks, after I bought Twilight and lent it to her one night when she was visiting. Now that I have to drive to work, I get very little reading time, but I have to say I am loving it, and almost at the end, looking forward to the next one. It really is a sweet love story.

Having said that, the pre-release reviews of the film are none too flattering so I will let my daughter be the judge on whether I see it at the movies or on DVD... she's going regardless of course
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Dude...the books are dreadful. I'm not usually one to go all FEMINIST SMASH over books, but I couldn't help myself with these.

Edward (our supposed romantic hero) is a personality free control freak whose most notable feature is being pretty. Very, very pretty. This will be mentioned approximately twice a page. But the fact that he's pretty makes up for his stalking of our heroine, up to and including sneaking *into* her room at night to watch her sleep and breaking her car so she can't go somewhere after he told her not to. (Okay, that may not happen in the first book...it all blurs together) Bella (our supposed heroine) is a whiny twit who does not have a problem with this. Seriously, preteen girls do not need to be reading this shit.
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I stopped halfway through the first book. I got bored.

As a mid-20s female, i didn't enjoy reading about the life-lessons of a teenage girl.

It moved dreadfully slow. I couldn't get into it. And i am usually extremely forgiving, as evidence by my wealth of Laurell K Hamilton werewolf porn...i mean books
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Let's not forget reading the minds of everyone she talks to so he knows what she says about him. Edward has..um...issues.

I picked up the first book for the same reason I read Harry Potter...to see what the fuss was about.

I love vampire love stories. I thought Twilight was a decent one. I agree it sends the wrong message to 11-12 year old girls though. The heroine should be made of a little stronger stuff than Bella is. An impressionable girl reading this story could start looking for exactly the *wrong* type of boyfriend.

I don't want to see the movie though. Like most books I like, it would just destroy how I've pictured the characters. Besides, my favorite parts of books are always cut in movies.

The author is a Mormon? *sigh* I liked Orson Scott Card until I read some of his essays. Now I can't even look at an Ender book without thinking "what a crazy man"
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I read them all rather quickly, they're not exactly challenging literature and the story was engrossing to me but I can see why I'd have issues with a young girl reading them especially. As the above mentions, it's a bit stalkery and possessive. the actual writing itself irritated me as it wasn't very good. Seemed to be Creative Writing 101 with God's dropping out of machines all over the place, and I'd like to strike the word chagrin from the authors vocabulary. Still, I'm kind of looking forward to the movie because I think the story might be better with that kind of timeframe and visuals.
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This whole thing makes me lol

I went through the most intensely ridiculous goth stage (had a trenchcoat and everything, didn't do the makeup though) and even 14 year old Siyu would laugh at this and turn back to Wheel of Time with a pretentious smirk. I haven't read it myself, but after reading the synopsis, hearing what the people who liked it said, and seeing the movie trailer... it's complete and utter schlock

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Ok. i went. i saw.

Twilight was a pretty-looking (but watered down) marysue movie for 13-YOs. And even if it was a PG movie, there were some areas of the film where it was pretty obvious where things could have gone.

Ultimately I agree it's a genre that's rife with eroticism... and the romanticism of the guy's stalker tendencies is probably not a good fantasy to be pushing on kids.

If you just wanna go see this as an adult, be prepared to see a movie that's forcibly aimed at little girls.

If you want a good 'full strength' vampire/werewolf marysue... I second the recommendation of the Laurell K Hamilton books instead
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These books, the worst ever written and an insult to the entire genre, this movie, and the entire squeeling fandom need to be destroyed with fire.
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These girl fans are insane as well. I can forgive the obsession in a 13 year-old, it's the grown women who disturb me.

Anyway, I'm sick of vampires again.

I'm reading old Clive Barker short stories about people's hands rebelling and cutting themselves off from the body to take over the planet.

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Oh man, that is the best scary story written EVAR. Read it on a Greyhound bus. Kept staring at my hands hoping they wouldn't get any bad ideas. Clive Barker is a real gentleman, too, or at least he was for the one minute I got to talk to him at a book signing.
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