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CBS and Alex Kurtzman have announced plans for future Star Trek television projects; these include at least one new regular show, a couple of limited series, and something to do with animation.

There are also rumors beginning to spread that Patrick Stewart, as Picard, will have something to do with one of these projects...
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If you have to pay for it like the last time, I won't be watching. Which really pisses me off as ST is my number one all time favorite scifi show(s). I'll even take ST any day over SW. And I love SW.
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Is it still locked to their dumb video service?
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With Paramount developing two Star Trek feature films and CBS developing multiple Star Trek TV shows, it looks like it is a good time to be a Trekkie.
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Is it still locked to their dumb video service?

don't expect to hear from them on this til closer to air date.... dispite the numerous voices of people refusing to watch discovery for one reason or another it was still very successful..



as long as Alex Kurtzman pleases his masters star trek will continue in whatever form it may be...


theres no confirmation yet but rumors are driving everyone crazy..

Patrick Stewart reportedly doing new Star Trek series
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What I find so disappointing about the so-called Star Trek properties that are cropping up -- from the reboot movies to the pay-lock series -- is that they've dropped any pretense of the original Trek themes and values. They're basically action-adventure gunfights in space, devoid of thoughtful story lines.

Yes, transporters and phasers were cool, but they weren't the heart and soul of Star Trek. A vision of a better future, grappling with ethics and the meaning of our humanity, THAT was Star Trek.
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What I find so disappointing about the so-called Star Trek properties that are cropping up -- from the reboot movies to the pay-lock series -- is that they've dropped any pretense of the original Trek themes and values. They're basically action-adventure gunfights in space, devoid of thoughtful story lines.

Yes, transporters and phasers were cool, but they weren't the heart and soul of Star Trek. A vision of a better future, grappling with ethics and the meaning of our humanity, THAT was Star Trek.
Oh yeah. I mean it feels like there were entire episodes of say, TNG that were just people talking and negotiating or whatever.

And it was compelling to watch.
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If you have to pay for it like the last time, I won't be watching. Which really pisses me off as ST is my number one all time favorite scifi show(s). I'll even take ST any day over SW. And I love SW.
Yeah, admittedly the 1 episode they broadcast of Discovery was not good anyway. Even if you ignore the new-new-Klingons and the hideous look to everything there was one simple fact they could not escape. Simply, it was not Star Trek. ST has always been about hopefulness and a bright future, the only variances were morality plays and such. It is NOT gritty or dirty. We rarely see fleet officers at odds with each other.

On top of all that then it is on a streaming service I need to pay for when I am already paying for CBS in my cable service? No thanks.

Then the next nail in the coffin: a better series at the same time that out-STs ST.
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There are also rumors beginning to spread that Patrick Stewart, as Picard, will have something to do with one of these projects...

Star Trek - The Wheelchair Generation?


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Yeah but he will only be able to speak via a series of beeps.
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Yeah but he will only be able to speak via a series of beeps.
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Is CBS owned by the house of mouse yet? If so maybe he can have Xs on the wheels when the fox deal goes through.
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Is CBS owned by the house of mouse yet?
They already own ABC. Might be a bit difficult for them to pick up another and have 2 of the big 3 4 5 major TV networks in the U.S., even in the Trumped Age.
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They already own ABC. Might be a bit difficult for them to pick up another and have 2 of the big 3 4 5 major TV networks in the U.S., even in the Trumped Age.
Comcast will soon own Fox and NBC (among various cable networks).
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Comcast will soon own Fox and NBC (among various cable networks).
OK, so maybe it'll be easier.
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Comcast will soon own Fox and NBC (among various cable networks).
So, I guess I misread the headline because Disney is buying Fox after all.

It still means Disney will own ABC and Fox.

Comcast just has NBC of the broadcasters.

Not sure on CBS/CW, was that part of Time Warner that AT&T bought? Seems CBS is still independant.
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So, I guess I misread the headline because Disney is buying Fox after all.

It still means Disney will own ABC and Fox.

Comcast just has NBC of the broadcasters.

Not sure on CBS/CW, was that part of Time Warner that AT&T bought? Seems CBS is still independant.
That is interesting. There have been theories for months about what will happen when the x-men are owned by the same company that owns the avengers.

Geeks. We focus on what is *important* about these huge deals.
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That is interesting. There have been theories for months about what will happen when the x-men are owned by the same company that owns the avengers.

Geeks. We focus on what is *important* about these huge deals.
I almost hope they find a way to just recon the current Xmen into the MCU. Even if its with some Infinity Gauntlet mumbo jumbo.
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I almost hope they find a way to just retcon* the current Xmen into the MCU. Even if its with some Infinity Gauntlet mumbo jumbo.

It's fairly easy to do. From the Doctor Strange film we know there are multiple parallel worlds, and arguably the Nine Realms of Asgard are also parallel worlds.


The MCU and X-Men worlds are very similar to each other, and to our own. For example, all experienced World War II and have New York City, but the details of their history differ. So bringing in the X-Men just means importing from their world to the MCU, or going the other way.


*retcon - from "retroactive continuity"
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It's fairly easy to do. From the Doctor Strange film we know there are multiple parallel worlds, and arguably the Nine Realms of Asgard are also parallel worlds.


The MCU and X-Men worlds are very similar to each other, and to our own. For example, all experienced World War II and have New York City, but the details of their history differ. So bringing in the X-Men just means importing from their world to the MCU, or going the other way.


*retcon - from "retroactive continuity"
Easy for a story, insane from a physics POV.

Marvel (and to a lesser extent DC) has developed everything as a multiverse to get around the fact that different stories would conflict with others. For a story any hack could list plenty of ways the two universes could collide.

The problem is their audience is a bit more sophisticated than kids sitting around reading 60 cent comics. Many of us went to college and/or studied things like physics. If they had one universe sending material to another there would be no end to response videos explaining why it was impossible. Forget that they are places where supers and mutants exist, this would be a point of geek pride because people could say something definitive about some aspect.
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Easy for a story, insane from a physics POV.

The Marvel and X-Men universes already violate physics in all kinds of ways. What's breaking one more law of nature?



The Hulk's extra mass appears from nowhere, and Tony Stark should have died in his first Iron Man flight from the terrorist cave. He had no vibranium or other magic technology, not even airbags, and crashed head-first from a ballistic flight from hundreds of feed into the ground.
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The Marvel and X-Men universes already violate physics in all kinds of ways. What's breaking one more law of nature?



The Hulk's extra mass appears from nowhere, and Tony Stark should have died in his first Iron Man flight from the terrorist cave. He had no vibranium or other magic technology, not even airbags, and crashed head-first from a ballistic flight from hundreds of feed into the ground.
There you go, you've figured it out. Everything from that first flight has been a momentary flash in Stark's brain unable to fathom what's about to happen when they slam into the ground. Iron Man was the first film in Phase one. And it tells the story of a dying man having a fevered self-important dream (like in William Golding's 1956 novel 'Pincher Martin'), a . . . I forget the male version of a Mary-Sue story.

Therefore it'll be easy to merge X-Men and Avengers together. We haven't actually seen the Avengers yet.

'But we can't just wave away 8 years of 'stuff'?' Well, that's what they did when they ended the 8 year run of the television show Newhart with Dick waking up in the 'Bob Newhart' universe and rolling over and telling the wife from that universe that he had a strange dream (and that's wiping away a 8 year show for a 6 year show).

On the other hand - they do that all the time in superhero unvierse. In modern times just look at Spiderman, and how often it has been rebooted. Wiping away each earlier version of the series. Retconning it. Heck, this is a long running tradition - the original Bat-Girl and Batwoman were retconned out of existence (before returning as different people long after the fact) in the ... whatever decade that happened (heh, looking for 'retrocon batgirl finds about 8 billion other times they've retcon'd Batgirl, making it harder to find that first time; had to have occurred some time in the 1960s (heh, I even remember the story, a new person took over control of the company, said 'fuck those women' and retconned them from existence, I just don't remember year) since Betty Kane was Bat-Girl starting in 1961; and Barbara Gordon became 'the Batgirl' everything thinks of as Batgirl in 1967 (even if the first self-titled Batgirl series starred Cassandra Cain; second also starred Cain; third starred . . . Stephanie Brown; Barbara Gordon didn't get self-titled Batgirl comic series until 2011)).

Occasionally they'll take the extra step and say 'noo this isn't changing the original story! This is a different story starring people remarkably similar but different! In a different universe.' (see: Christian Bale's Batman series).


So, yeah, that. Or, you know, since those stones basically grant the dude whatever power he wants, they could show Thanos pick up an X-Men comic, and wave his hands and merge the universe together. Because . . . eh, why not.
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I actually kind of worry and would be a little angry if IW2 opens and we find out it was all a Loki illusion.
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I actually kind of worry and would be a little angry if IW2 opens and we find out it was all a Loki illusion.

The second part of Infinity War was filmed right after the first part, because most of the same actors were involved, and it was logistically easier that way. Also it was planned as a two-parter, although the Russo Brothers have tried to fake people out about what's in Part 2.


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