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Old 12-23-2012, 08:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Can't install Windows 8 on clean SSD drive

I've been Googling all evening, but can't seem to untangle the problems I'm having installing Win 8. This is not an upgrade, it's a clean install on a new SSD drive.

Motherboard: ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe
CPU: AMD Athlon 64
OS: Windows 8 Pro install for 64-bit
SSD: ADATA XPG SX900

I unplugged all my other HDDs, and have only my optical drive and the new SSD active. In BIOS, I set the optical as the boot disk, disabled RAID (which I'd had on the previous configuration), and clearly could see the SSD detected.

1) Boot up with the Windows 8 installation disk, and the first problem is that the screen is incredibly pixelated. I've managed to figure out what each screen is by compariing with setup guides with screenshots, so I don't mistake anything.

2) Get through the options for language, product key, various terms of service, etc.

3) Get to the screen for selecting a drive in which to install and there's nothing listed, but there's a note about selecting drivers.

4) Downloaded the ADATA driver for this SSD on a thumbdrive. The thumb shows up on the browse menu option, but the driver file that is on the thumb can't be seen or selected.

And that's where I'm stuck.

Are there more generic SATA drivers that would be recognized? Is the drive too new, too old, what?



THIS is why I haven't upgraded since WinXP. The frustration quotient is extreme.
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Ensure your BIOS is set to AHCI mode, not IDE for the SSD drive.
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try enabling AHCI SATA mode in the UEFI/BIOS
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The bad news: AHCI is not supported by my motherboard.

The good news: Went back into bios to try to change to AHCI, and found I'd accidentally disabled the S1/S2 connected to my SSD.

I have progressed another step! Of course, I can barely see what is happening on the screen still... but I'll keep clicking at likely areas and hope for the best.

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Old 12-23-2012, 09:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Just for the record, this is all Cris's fault. He persuaded me to forge ahead with Win8 insteadl of clinging with hollow wails to XP.

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Go back to Win 7 - do not try to brave the horrors of Win 8!

Do you have Bios version 1303 or later on the system?
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Do you have Raid mode on the Sata/IDE in Bios setup? That is also AHCI on the intel chipsets.
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Go back to Win 7 - do not try to brave the horrors of Win 8!

Do you have Bios version 1303 or later on the system?
I can't "go back" to Win 7 since I never had it. I could only go back to Win XP and no, I'm not doing that.

I have no idea what Bios version I have. Where would I find that information?
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I can't "go back" to Win 7 since I never had it. I could only go back to Win XP and no, I'm not doing that.

I have no idea what Bios version I have. Where would I find that information?
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Bios information is under the "mainboard" tab
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I have Windows 8 fully installed, but my screen is still pixelated to the point that it is difficult to read or understand anything on there. So what I have is probably a problem unrelated to Windows 8. Here's what happened:

Over the last few days I've upgraded my memory to 4gb (the max for this build) and added a new case fan. Yesterday I closed up my case once the fan was running well, played in SL for awhile, then logged out to take a lunch break.

When I got back to the computer, the system had rebooted and I couldn't get it to boot back even with safe mode; just kept returning to the screen saying the system had been shut off. So this seemed a good time to proceed with the Win8 upgrade on a new HDD, hoping that the issues were related to my hard drive.

I disconnected the old hard drives, removed a floppy drive I haven't used since I built the system 6 years ago, and added my brand new SSD. I reconfigured Bios for the new setup and began installation of Win 8 Pro (not upgrade, a clean install). After a few hiccups I actually got the installation completed.

The major problem is that during the entire install process, the screen was majorly pixelated. This morning I swapped out my graphics card to a new one in hopes that was the issue; no difference.

I'm pretty much stuck now because aside from finding the new OS a bit confusing under the best of circumstances, I can't see what I'm doing.
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Old 12-24-2012, 09:27 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Thanks, but I can't really do that because of the issues I'm having with the screen display. Win8 is working, the computer is not. *sigh*
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Hey Beebs, just wondering what video card you have in the computer?

By the way if you need another cpu for this thing I think I still have a 3000 and 3800 in a box, somewhere.

Doh! my researchin made me miss the replies.

This may help with the new interface, if you can figure out how to get it installed: http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/
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I've kept digging on Google and this is the latest I've found:
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Damn, looks like it's a NVidia graphics card incompatibility issue.
The card I have, a 4xx series apparantely wasn't supported in the beta of Win 8, and even though the documentation says it is, looks like it isn't.
Found a similar thread where people have put together the info. Answer: Upgrade On the plus side, graphics card upgrade time
The two video cards I've tried in the build are:
GT-240X
GT-630

The 630 is a new card I bought before understanding how the numbers work. I thought it was a better card than the first, turns out it's weaker. I wouldn't mind upgrading but not sure how quickly I can get ahold of a new, better card around here. I'd prefer to order from New Egg.

Right now I'm really depressed that I'm going to be without my computer for the majority of the holidays. I was planning on some major renovations and making some hard decisions about my SL business. Now I'm stuck with quick borrowing of my partner's computer to trouble-shoot the issues.
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So I hooked up my old hard drive to see if I could make it the boot disk and just ignore Win8, but couldn't back into bios at all. Re-boot, try again, re-boot, try-again, and suddenly Windows 8 looks perfect, crystal clear.
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The 630 is almost certainly better than the 240 as the second number thing only holds within the same generation, and your new one is four generations newer. And the 630 is almost certainly supported by win8. Did you install the driver for it?

Without a driver it should still work, minus a lot of features, though it might not match up with the resolution of your monitor. The result would be pixelation, but not like what you're seeing. You would still be able to read it well enough to find the proper settings, or install the driver and then do the settings.

It's odd that both of your cards have the same problem. I'd suspect your monitor is bad, but it seems unlikely you'd have hard drive trouble and monitor trouble simultaneously, unless you got zapped with a power spike.
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Just for shits n giggles, though, go to the desktop (the flower tile in the lower left of your start screen), right click on the desktop and select "screen resolution" (it's probably the second to last item on the popup menu). See if you can read any of that well enough to make sure you're running the right resolution for your monitor.
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So I hooked up my old hard drive to see if I could make it the boot disk and just ignore Win8, but couldn't back into bios at all. Re-boot, try again, re-boot, try-again, and suddenly Windows 8 looks perfect, crystal clear.
Woo Hoo! ... Bastards!
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...and suddenly Windows 8 looks perfect, crystal clear.
Oops, I didn't read that far
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Good Times lasted all of about 15min. Went to get coffee (perhaps my computer suffers from separation anxiety?) and when I returned, my mouse had frozen.

Reboots resulted in a black screen of death.



Even more reboots and now Win 8 is "Attempting to repair" and is back to pixellated mode.
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So I hooked up my old hard drive to see if I could make it the boot disk and just ignore Win8, but couldn't back into bios at all. Re-boot, try again, re-boot, try-again, and suddenly Windows 8 looks perfect, crystal clear.
Bet you have a loose connection somewhere inside your computer. I'd open it up one more time and triple check all the cards/cables are all the way in.
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Bet you have a loose connection somewhere inside your computer. I'd open it up one more time and triple check all the cards/cables are all the way in.
I hope it's that simple. What I'm seeing right now are all sorts of just random issues.

* Pixelation that comes and goes
* Mouse freeze
* Problems entering bios
* Win8 trying to auto repair itself

I've tried to boot with my old HDD (WinXP) but although it is detected by bios, I can't get it as a menu options for Boot Priority. Instead I'm seeing an entry for the old Floppy Disk drive which is NOT in the build anymore. So really frustrating.
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Even though this is going to sound like I am a complete bonehead...please check that one of the keys on your keyboard isn't stuck. Sad to say, I have torn down a computer looking for a problem before and found that it was simply a stuck key on the keyboard. It was just too simple to occur to me. LOL
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I'm back in "everything works fine" mode after yet another reboot. Loaded SL viewer and it worked fine too.

I'm still twitchy about everything going south again for no reason, but at the moment the only challenge I face is 1) learning how to do thing with the new interface and 2) reloading software programs and archived data.
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Reading this thread makes me want to reconsider reconsidering switching back to windows.
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