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Winter Ventura · 09-26-2007, 12:58 PM

I'll say, if you could guarantee that "all the banner ads seen in the sponsored forum" were ones the sponsor dictated, I think you'd get a lot of interest. Without that, I think that this sponsorship deal rings pretty hollow. I mean no offense to you Cris, but "Second Citizen Refugees, brought to you by Eclectic Randomness" isn't really worth that kind of cash, at least not to me. If I can pwn the banners in that forum, then yes, there's an incentive worth some cash to me.

Io Zeno · 09-26-2007, 03:38 PM

Yeah, I agree with Winter on this, Cris. I don't know how much of a hassle this will be to code but I tend to use new posts and ispy anyway and could easily miss that tag. The banner would be the selling point. Tags like that tend to be ignored, just text.

Joshua Nightshade · 09-26-2007, 03:45 PM

The pricing for high-rotation ads is different than it is for just a sponsored link here.

http://www.sluniverse.com/php/index....id=advertising

Thirty days on either rate would net about double+ the cost of thirty days as a sponsored link. I think that when you factor in the cost of Cris' already pretty fair advertising rates with that, it's a bit ridiculous to expect sole ads for a rate less than his most dedicated advertising rate.

Io Zeno · 09-26-2007, 03:46 PM

Then let him charge more. :shrug:

Joshua Nightshade · 09-26-2007, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Io Zeno

Then let him charge more. :shrug:

Or be happy with what you've got.

Io Zeno · 09-26-2007, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua Nightshade

Or be happy with what you've got.

Maybe, Josh, we are trying to help Cris by giving feedback so HE CAN MAKE MORE MONEY?

Joshua Nightshade · 09-26-2007, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Io Zeno

Maybe, Josh, we are trying to help Cris by giving feedback so HE CAN MAKE MORE MONEY?

Well it doesn't look that way to me. It looked like Winter was complaining that if the sponsorship doesn't include full control over the subforum ads then it's not worth it to her. I was pointing out that it's less than the cost of a high-rotation ad for 30 days with the added benefit that at least you're guaranteed to be seen, and more times than at the high-rotation.

Cris said that the ad systems are totally separate and as far as I know not aware of specific subforums. For that to change would involve a lot of work if it's possible at all.

Winter's comment didn't strike me as feedback so much as "If it can't do this, I don't want it."

Io Zeno · 09-26-2007, 03:57 PM

Josh, Winter is a potential customer. Not a fangirl. She is responding to an offer and explaining why it does not appeal to her. This may or may not be helpful depending on how many agree with her take and whether it would be worth the effort to code the thing to do that.

That is up to Cris.

You know, the way business works.

Jessyanne · 09-26-2007, 04:05 PM

sign me up Cris. I think it's a pretty cool idea. Especially since I am a sucky graphic person and couldn't design my own ad to save my ass...

I also think that while I and a few of you use only New Posts and Ispy, that a lot of posters who log on here once or twice a day, take an actual look at the forums. So for the little amount of Lindens, I would love the exposure.

Io Zeno · 09-26-2007, 04:09 PM

This is the thing, Jess. The tag is a direct slurl. Now, I may be curious about what Anomations is, but not necessarily enough to log on to SL and visit. Or stop what I am doing and go there. Just on a name and the fact that they paid for sponsorship.

Like, if it's too much of a hassle to do the banner thing, maybe a link to your SL shopper page would be a better deal for some people. I would prefer that, actually, it would show people my stuff and there is an slurl there if they want to visit.

Edit to add, yes I know what anomations is, just using it as an example.

Jessyanne · 09-26-2007, 04:15 PM

I see your point. Which is great... except, unless I'm wrong, in order to see that, like in my signature.. Id have to post often and at least everyday.

Io Zeno · 09-26-2007, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessyanne

I see your point. Which is great... except, unless I'm wrong, in order to see that, like in my signature.. Id have to post often and at least everyday.

No, I meant the link for the sponsorship would go to your SL Shopper listings, instead of to SL. As an option.

Jessyanne · 09-26-2007, 04:19 PM

ahhhh. I see.

eesh... I haven't gotten around to those either. (Io dontcha get Im lazy!) hehe, okay not really... but hell.. I've been busy!

Mourna Biziou · 09-26-2007, 04:26 PM

btw, the sponsored link is covering up the page numbers of the thread for me.
: confused:

Io Zeno · 09-26-2007, 04:33 PM

Same here, Mourna.

Joshua Nightshade · 09-26-2007, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Io Zeno

Josh, Winter is a potential customer. Not a fangirl. She is responding to an offer and explaining why it does not appeal to her. This may or may not be helpful depending on how many agree with her take and whether it would be worth the effort to code the thing to do that.

That is up to Cris.

You know, the way business works.

Who said anything about being a fangirl?

She posed a request. Cris responded. I commented.

Are you able to respond to anything I say without being snippy or should I seriously just never talk to you ever again? Being civil to you is a labor of love, good christ.

Joshua Nightshade · 09-26-2007, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mourna Biziou

btw, the sponsored link is covering up the page numbers of the thread for me.
: confused:

Huh I'm seeing it fine.

What browser are you in?

Io Zeno · 09-26-2007, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua Nightshade

Who said anything about being a fangirl?

She posed a request. Cris responded. I commented.

Are you able to respond to anything I say without being snippy or should I seriously just never talk to you ever again? Being civil to you is a labor of love, good christ.

Man alive, you have no idea how ironic this post is.

Maybe if you tried being civil to Winter and myself instead of acting like we were ingrates or whiners, when we are potential customers, this little argument would have never happened, eh?

I guess that is too much to ask.

Joshua Nightshade · 09-26-2007, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Io Zeno

Man alive, you have no idea how ironic this post is.

Maybe if you tried being civil to Winter and myself instead of acting like we were ingrates or whiners, when we are potential customers, this little argument would have never happened, eh?

I guess that is too much to ask.

I've been nothing but civil to you (and to Winter, whom I have never had a problem with before, ever, and whom I like) despite you being nasty.

Please don't make me play quote chicken with you. Preceding post alone, implying I'm Cris' fangirl and thus my input is irrelevant. Implying I know nothing about the business world and thus my input is irrelevant. Furthermore implying I don't have a pretty decent grasp already on how Cris' adserver runs, I mean given that I am only running ads here and work for an internet advertising company in RL and everything.

Rude. Unnecessary. Unprovoked. Unappreciated.

Mourna Biziou · 09-26-2007, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua Nightshade

Huh I'm seeing it fine.

What browser are you in?

Firefox 2.0.0.7

Joshua Nightshade · 09-26-2007, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mourna Biziou

Firefox 2.0.0.7

How strange, now it's overlapping for me as well, when it was fine a second ago.

Mourna Biziou · 09-26-2007, 05:09 PM

I'm a jinx

Joshua Nightshade · 09-26-2007, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mourna Biziou

I'm a jinx

But teh pretty one!

Io Zeno · 09-26-2007, 05:11 PM

You know what Josh, I have a question for you.

Of the two of us, who is continually told to shut up, grow up, back off and in general found extremely irritating by many people?

I will give you some time. No, your opinion of me doesn't count.

Now, maybe the whole world is wrong and you are just right but I kinda doubt it.

You aren't helping Cris by coming into his thread to smack anyone who doesn't speak nicely to him, in regards to a business matter.

Let him mind his own damn business and you take care of yours. From what I've heard you have had almost every profession known to man, you must be very busy.

09-26-2007, 12:58 PM	#26 (permalink)
Winter Ventura Eclectic Randomness EAT ME! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 816 SL Join Date: 7/13/2006 Business: Eclectic Randomness SLShopper Ads: 5 My Mood:	I'll say, if you could guarantee that "all the banner ads seen in the sponsored forum" were ones the sponsor dictated, I think you'd get a lot of interest. Without that, I think that this sponsorship deal rings pretty hollow. I mean no offense to you Cris, but "Second Citizen Refugees, brought to you by Eclectic Randomness" isn't really worth that kind of cash, at least not to me. If I can pwn the banners in that forum, then yes, there's an incentive worth some cash to me. __________________ There's a little bit of paradise.. the way hot pepperoni, mushrooms, pineapple and melted cheese all come together in a single moment in time.

09-26-2007, 03:45 PM	#28 (permalink)
Joshua Nightshade Custom Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 22,437 SL Join Date: 10-11-2004 Business: abstract avatars! SLShopper Ads: 16 My Mood:	The pricing for high-rotation ads is different than it is for just a sponsored link here. http://www.sluniverse.com/php/index....id=advertising Thirty days on either rate would net about double+ the cost of thirty days as a sponsored link. I think that when you factor in the cost of Cris' already pretty fair advertising rates with that, it's a bit ridiculous to expect sole ads for a rate less than his most dedicated advertising rate. __________________ joshuameadows.com \| blog.abstractavatars.com

09-26-2007, 04:26 PM	#39 (permalink)
Mourna Biziou N. Señora de la Sangre /reserved Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,995 SLShopper Ads: 2 My Mood:	btw, the sponsored link is covering up the page numbers of the thread for me. : confused: __________________ Mah Flickah

09-26-2007, 03:38 PM	#27 (permalink)
Io Zeno Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 12,352 Awards: 1	Yeah, I agree with Winter on this, Cris. I don't know how much of a hassle this will be to code but I tend to use new posts and ispy anyway and could easily miss that tag. The banner would be the selling point. Tags like that tend to be ignored, just text.

09-26-2007, 03:46 PM	#29 (permalink)
Io Zeno Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 12,352 Awards: 1	Then let him charge more. :shrug:

09-26-2007, 03:57 PM	#33 (permalink)
Io Zeno Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 12,352 Awards: 1	Josh, Winter is a potential customer. Not a fangirl. She is responding to an offer and explaining why it does not appeal to her. This may or may not be helpful depending on how many agree with her take and whether it would be worth the effort to code the thing to do that. That is up to Cris. You know, the way business works.

09-26-2007, 04:05 PM	#34 (permalink)
Jessyanne Senior Member Likes the smell of green Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pa Posts: 4,645 Business: Lakeside Homes	sign me up Cris. I think it's a pretty cool idea. Especially since I am a sucky graphic person and couldn't design my own ad to save my ass... I also think that while I and a few of you use only New Posts and Ispy, that a lot of posters who log on here once or twice a day, take an actual look at the forums. So for the little amount of Lindens, I would love the exposure.

09-26-2007, 04:09 PM	#35 (permalink)
Io Zeno Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 12,352 Awards: 1	This is the thing, Jess. The tag is a direct slurl. Now, I may be curious about what Anomations is, but not necessarily enough to log on to SL and visit. Or stop what I am doing and go there. Just on a name and the fact that they paid for sponsorship. Like, if it's too much of a hassle to do the banner thing, maybe a link to your SL shopper page would be a better deal for some people. I would prefer that, actually, it would show people my stuff and there is an slurl there if they want to visit. Edit to add, yes I know what anomations is, just using it as an example.

09-26-2007, 04:15 PM	#36 (permalink)
Jessyanne Senior Member Likes the smell of green Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pa Posts: 4,645 Business: Lakeside Homes	I see your point. Which is great... except, unless I'm wrong, in order to see that, like in my signature.. Id have to post often and at least everyday.

09-26-2007, 04:19 PM	#38 (permalink)
Jessyanne Senior Member Likes the smell of green Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pa Posts: 4,645 Business: Lakeside Homes	ahhhh. I see. eesh... I haven't gotten around to those either. (Io dontcha get Im lazy!) hehe, okay not really... but hell.. I've been busy!

09-26-2007, 04:33 PM	#40 (permalink)
Io Zeno Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 12,352 Awards: 1	Same here, Mourna.

09-26-2007, 05:09 PM	#47 (permalink)
Mourna Biziou N. Señora de la Sangre /reserved Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,995 SLShopper Ads: 2 My Mood:	I'm a jinx