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Old 04-11-2008, 04:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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LOL! "nostradamus Obama quatrain"

WASHINGTON DC - USA - Scholars for the Smithsonian Institute have uncovered new interpretations that may relate to Barack Obama, the Illinois senator vying to become the next US president.


Professor Eugene Randell, Deputy Director of the Smithsonian Institution Archives has released information pertaining to the up and coming US elections.

The Institute which holds some very rare Nostradamus manuscripts, believes that some of the quatrains written by the 16th century soothsayer are very close to describing the fight for the White House that is happening now.

"We have the only existing fourth edition of Nostradamus' book Les Propheties (The Prophecies). There were thought to be only three editions published in 1558, this new edition is from 1559 and includes 20 more quatrains which have never been revealed before -- that is, until now," Professor Randell said from the archive office on Tuesday.

Nostradamus has been credited with predicting numerous events in world history, from the Great Fire of London, the rise of Napoleon I of France, the French Revolution and Adolf Hitler, to the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center.

The professor told the Daily Squib that it is well known that some of the quatrains are open to interpretation however what he has translated from the previously unreleased manuscript will certainly "ruffle a few feathers".

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The great empire will be torn from limb,
The all-powerful one for more than four hundred years:
Great power given to the dark one from slaves come,
The Aryana will not be satisfied thereby.


Nostradamus' previously unreleased quatrains are a heavily guarded secret and the scholars have broken with tradition to reveal a few tidbits in the Smithsonian's monthly circular.

We leave it to our esteemed readers to make up their own minds. However, it seems that with the release of the new quatrains the race for the White House may have been already written about many centuries ago.

Nostradamus Obama Prophecies Revealed

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Didn't Hitler make great use of these prophecy's himself?

I call a total bullshit on even the existence of Nostradamus from this day forth.
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BTW, I was reading it reversed as to say "the dark one will get power and from the power will come slaves"
Apparently it means the dark one came from slaves... well, Obama is not the descendant of slaves.
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From what I've read about Nostradamus quatrains they can be interpreted in many different ways.
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Old 04-11-2008, 06:33 AM   #4 (permalink)
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From what I've read about Nostradamus quatrains they can be interpreted in many different ways.
You're exactly right, they where used extensively during WW2 by both the Nazi's and allies as propaganda infact..

Yea.. Nostradamus predicted Hitler.. only after Hitler came about though

Heres my theory: its a load of bollix. why are they such a secret? only reveled every so often? because they are shit on a stick.

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Old 04-11-2008, 06:40 AM   #5 (permalink)
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It's a popular misconception that Hitler was involved in the occult.

Himmler however was heavily influenced by it.

Goebbles would use prophecies for the purpose of propaganda, however I would seriously doubt he actualy believed any of it.
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It's a popular misconception that Hitler was involved in the occult.

Himmler however was heavily influenced by it.

Goebbles would use prophecies for the purpose of propaganda, however I would seriously doubt he actualy believed any of it.
You mean "Raiders of the Lost Ark" was not based on a true story?

*feels shattered as his whole view of the world crumbles to dust*
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You're exactly right, they where used extensively during WW" by both the Nazi's and allies as propaganda infact..

Yea.. Nostradamus predicted Hitler.. only after Hitler came about though

Heres my theory: its a load of bollix. why are they such a secret? only reveled every so often? because they are shit on a stick.

I knew you were going to post that - Nostradamus predicted it here :

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Vous verrez tost & tard taire grand change,
Horreurs extremes, & vindications:
Que si la lune conduicte par son ange,
Le ciel s'approach des inclinations.
See it even mentions the in my post !!!
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It's a popular misconception that Hitler was involved in the occult.

Himmler however was heavily influenced by it.

Goebbles would use prophecies for the purpose of propaganda, however I would seriously doubt he actualy believed any of it.
Oh I don't know... the blood rights with the flags and all those crazy ceremony's? if he wasn't into it himself he certainly allowed a lot of it into his "religion"
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You mean "Raiders of the Lost Ark" was not based on a true story?

*feels shattered as his whole view of the world crumbles to dust*
there is a lot of truth in it actually.. just the actually finding it part thats bollix

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It's a popular misconception that Hitler was involved in the occult.

Himmler however was heavily influenced by it.

Goebbles would use prophecies for the purpose of propaganda, however I would seriously doubt he actualy believed any of it.
Sorry..
Hitler was well acquainted with the Occult
Hence his interest in the Spearhead in the Hofberg Library in Vienna, reputed to be the Spear of Destiny, his early membership in the Thule Society.
Whether of course he actually believed any of it, it just used it as a means to an end, I guess we shall never know.
But certainly Hitler was well aware of the Black Sun associations within the SS. And Himmler's quests for occult items, I'm sure were done with Adolf's sanction.
I don't think any of this is as clear cut as you suggest, Victoria.
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Sorry..
Hitler was well acquainted with the Occult
Hence his interest in the Spearhead in the Hofberg Library in Vienna, reputed to be the Spear of Destiny, his early membership in the Thule Society.
Whether of course he actually believed any of it, it just used it as a means to an end, I guess we shall never know.
But certainly Hitler was well aware of the Black Sun associations within the SS. And Himmler's quests for occult items, I'm sure were done with Adolf's sanction.
I don't think any of this is as clear cut as you suggest, Victoria.

I couldn't believe my ears when I heard they used horoscopes to make actual military decisions. its no wonder they where lampooned as they where...
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Sorry..
Hitler was well acquainted with the Occult
Hence his interest in the Spearhead in the Hofberg Library in Vienna, reputed to be the Spear of Destiny, his early membership in the Thule Society.
Whether of course he actually believed any of it, it just used it as a means to an end, I guess we shall never know.
But certainly Hitler was well aware of the Black Sun associations within the SS. And Himmler's quests for occult items, I'm sure were done with Adolf's sanction.
I don't think any of this is as clear cut as you suggest, Victoria.
Ah, well I'll have to take exception with you in regards to the Thule Society Luc.

It is well documented that Himmler, Hess, Eckart and Rosenberg had ties to it, and Himmler certainly embraced the concept, Wewelsburg being a prime example

However I am not aware of any link between Hitler and the Thule society other than his association with members of it. Was he aware of it, undoubtably, and if any it furthered his political ambitions, I'm sure he used idea's/concepts to his advantage.

The only firm link I can find directly conecting the Nazi party to the Thule society is in 1920, Eckart was instrumential in raising funds to purchase the Thule Societies bankrupt newspaper for the NSDAP.


Edit: And please don't referance Spear of Destiny by Trevor Ravenscroft. Also in a similar vein there is The Occult Reich by J. H. Brennan. DO NOT confuse these books with reliable history

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