Jahar Aabye

Dunno, during adolescence I certainly didn't need porn to give me all kinds of fantasies about various girls I knew. Massive amounts of testosterone took care of that, thankyouverymuch. Of course, it took me a few years to learn the lesson that appears to have escaped the attention of the author of this article: there are plenty of women who have the exact same fantasies.

Seriously, if you look at the tone of the article, it's putting women up on a pedestal, they're pure and innocent and they would never engage in these acts if their boyfriends didn't get these evil ideas from watching pornography. Bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit. Next they'll be claiming that feminists don't enjoy sex (hoooboy could I write some interesting paragraphs refuting that).

I can't speak for everyone's porn viewing habits, but I would assume that most people go looking for pornography that fits their existing fantasies. I'd also imagine that most porn producers are making porn to fit existing markets, or at least to meet what they perceive to be what their viewers want.

And a counterpoint to the idea that porn is ruining relationships is that it can also allow couples to explore fantasies in a safe environment, by watching it first. Then they can say "hey honey, wouldn't it be fun if we...".

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Essence Lumin

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Kara Spengler

Am I the only one that read this as 'Generation Papist'? Maybe it was seeing 'porn' and 'boys' near each other that sent my mind off in that direction?

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Nephilaine Protagonist

Violence, whether sexual or otherwise, is always the responsibility of the person committing the violence. Not video games, not tv, not porn. None of it. None of it removed the perp's free will, at any point in time they could choose NOT to do what they are about to do.
There is a real and valid discussion to be had on whether or not porn gives people the wrong idea about what real-world sex is actually like, how big real world cocks actually are, how much silicone the average woman's body actually contains ect. But violence? No. That remains a personal choice on the part of the perp and I absolutely refuse to entertain any notion that removes part of the responsibility for that choice from them. Its dangerous. In trying to find a reason, these people are actually laying out excuses. Do they realize it? Who knows. Buts its at least as dangerous as what they are initially proposing as the cause of the violence in the first place.

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Tranquility

I am not going to read the article and I don't buy for a minute that online porn causes boys to be violent. First off, Rule #34. That means there is porn for any given preference. If a boy is drawn to violent porn, something else is causing it, not the availability of the porn. Its not like the internet only has violent porn or even that the bulk of internet porn is violent in nature.

I also don't believe porn affects a person's sex life negatively due to unrealistic expectations anymore than hollywood movies are perceived as being factual. And again, Rlue #34. Sure you can find more Aphrodite and Adonis pornstars than you can shake a fist at (pun intended), but you can also find plenty of average looking joe and jane amateur porn too.

I'll give that violent porn might exacerbate (not to be confused with masturbate...although I guess it could work as a figure of speech synonym) existing violent tenancies, but it is not the cause/source of those tenancies.

Ysanne Korpov

Small boys who sound like girls while masturbating to their "uber pwnage leet killshot kills" in online games made for older boys and girls make me violent.

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Eunoli Rain

Al Gore didn't invent porn. It's been around not for decades or centuries, but for thousands of years. Granted, we're getting better at it (or worse).

However, if there's any change in the number of rapes reported this generation, I don't believe it has anything to do with online porn being available. It has to do with a lot more victims having the willingness and ability to come forward now than ever before. Even a generation ago, you were just as likely to get "what did you do to cause this" as you were to get any sympathy from law enforcement. Things still aren't anywhere near perfect, but the shame factor just isn't the deterrent to reporting that it used to be (and it is still a pretty big factor). If anything, the ability to learn about others and their stories via the internet is giving victims the strength and courage to step forward at rates they never would have in preinternet generations.

Of course, the above only applies to countries (and in some places, communities) where other factors aren't still keeping the old blame the victim and hide the shame ways firmly intact, as they are in many places around the world. That's another thread, though.

Free Xue

Watching internet porn could cause memory loss | Mail Online

Who the hell are all you people?

/me starts getting violent!

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Roxy Couturier

I'm at a loss to adequately express what a pile of codswallop that article is.

What fucking planet are these people from? The first sounds like the natural result of giving a blowjob to me. Apparently, if it ain't missionary, we fragile girls aren't supposed to like it.

There have been studies on spanking. Some of us do derive pleasure from it, and it has a physiological basis.

All these 'studies' and yet, no interviews with women as to what -we- find pleasurable. But that would invalidate their assumption they based the study on.

Oh and lets not forget that statisically, the incidence of rape per capita has gone down since the explosion of the internet. And in idyllic eras like the 60's, rape was just as prevalent and far more under-reported (or even believed if it was).

It also doesn't explain internet barren areas in Africa, where rape has exponentially exploded.

Of course, poverty, lack of education, let alone sex education and sex shaming religions have -nothing- to do with it. It's all porns fault.

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Ingrid

I'd like to see more long term scientific studies and less editorial opinion when it comes to this topic, until then I don't think we can really say one way or the other.

Isabeau Imako

There are so many different types of Pornography, might as well write an article on how sex itself is affecting boys. What is different now, is the easy availibility of hard core violent porn for any and everyone, at any time. Coupled with the fact that many kids are left on their own. Add to that the lack of sex education, and even the total avoidance of sexual conversation in (christian?) homes.

I have to say, though, the easy accessibility of it is what is probably the most different from the past.

Essence Lumin

Was there that time with you Free? I don't quite remember.

Jahar Aabye

Following this logic, does the increase in availability of gay porn turn people gay?

Free Xue

I'm an outlier, so I'll refrain from comment.

Wrong Weatherwax

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Lucifer Baphomet

You know something... all these studies about porn's effects on males forget one important thing...

WOMEN WATCH/READ/WHATEVER PORN TOO.

I don't see anyone claiming that porn is making women more violent, or talking about the unrealistic sexual expectations of women.

I call bullshit

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It has been a while since I took a psychology class, but I think that may fall under the category of conditioning.

It would take a little more than just the availability of gay porn- it would take watching it, and linking some kind of reward. And since porn does not deal with romantic relationships usually, we limit "turn people gay" to mean developing a response of sexual arousal to someone of the same sex (or specifically, someone of the sex depicted in the porn).

It's simpler to see how it works with violent porn. A young boy is watching perhaps the non-violent part of it, masturbating and having a good time, and reaches that moment of inevitable climax at the same time in the video that the man starts choking the woman. Congratulations to that young boy, his brain has now connected the positive sensation of orgasm with the image of a man choking a woman.

That is not going to automatically turn him into a rapist. Hopefully he has enough moral grounding, positive interactions with women and girls, and enough non-violent means of gratifying himself that jacking off to one violent porn movie is nowhere near enough to overcome everything else he has experienced and learned.

However, the more his violent porn enjoyment increases in proportion as compared to his other experiences, the more of a chance that the enjoyment of the violent porn becomes his dominant, guiding experience.

The title of the OP article was misleading as to what the article presented, and it is not a terribly substantive article. But I think the MOST program which it describes has the right idea. Boys are going to be exposed to violent porn one way or another- so make sure they have a positive, healthy understanding of sexuality so when they see the violent porn, so they can put it in the proper context.

Ysanne Korpov

What? So you really want to tell me boys do not sparkle when I run all day with my best twilight-breathing-through-my-mouth-interpretation?

Amelia Freund

It's more of a case of women being expected to do it and not giving into submission, and even furthermore being expected to swallow as well. You'd be surprised at the number of guys that get angry or end the relationship because their partner said no to swallowing.

Jahar Aabye

Everyone has different things they enjoy. Some women may enjoy it, others might not. I also think that there's a massive difference between ending a relationship because two people have different interests in what they want sexually, and sexual violence.

I see nothing wrong with ending a relationship if two people have serious differences in what they want to do sexually. Swallowing doesn't strike me as being a huge difference either way, but it might be for some people. Ending a relationship certainly strikes me as being more mature than spending months or years arguing over it.

eku Zhong

well the pearl necklace has definitely become more popular due to porn..
that shit gets in your eye it burns for fucking hours ffs

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pancake

Lately I'm prefering pearl panties to pearl necklaces.


I didn't even learn about them from porn either.

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pancake

Porn DID give me unrealistic sexual expectations (and not in a good way!)

Thank god I've yet to wake up next to Ron Jeremy

eku Zhong

one thing boys havent realised yet..
wimmins be expecting giant bologna sausages ... all day long...

Amity Slade

All this talk of unprotected oral, giant sausages, and unrealistic sexual expectations makes me want to log in to Second Life.