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**Beebo Brink** · 09-12-2012, 08:59 PM

Romney's utterly distasteful and inaccurate statements concerning the attacks on a US embassy should disqualify him. There is simply no excuse for his sniping.

Lianne Marten · 09-12-2012, 09:03 PM

I would have said that even before his weird-ass performance last night, but that pretty much clinched it.

Also I went from simply rolling my eyes at everything he says and does to straight up hating him now. If he wasn't running one of the worst, if not THE worst, presidential campaigns ever i'd be a lot more worried.

As it is he'll simply get 49% of the vote because that's how our electorate has been sectioned.

Or he'll win and i'll be applying for New Zealand residency.

Polo · 09-12-2012, 09:09 PM

As we all know, there are US voters who won't even know about this, or at least who won't know the facts which prove how out-of-line Romney was. There are plenty who will vote for The White Guy no matter what.

Given that, though:

It is surprising that so many big names (or fairly big names) on the GOP side are not only NOT backing Romney's choices, today, but are actually speaking out to criticize him.

While horrified for the families of those who died, I confess to feeling somewhat better about our political sphere. I would have expected the right to be in lock-step in support of Romney's fact-free politicizing of this tragedy; I'm glad that's turned out not to be the case.

Tess Whitcroft · 09-12-2012, 09:17 PM

Mitt Romney Misstates Facts On Libya, Egypt Attacks

Romney's quick criticism on Libya draws rebuke

Romney Criticized for Handling of Libya Protests, Death

Romney's disgraceful words after Libya attack kills US ambassador

Romney Criticized for Political Turn After Ambassador's Killing

Mitt Romney's Response to Libya Murders Was Un-American

Tess

Eva Ryan · 09-12-2012, 09:28 PM

Trust me, I like Romney just about as much as I like constipation. In fact, just to make it clear, I think he's a totally selfish, self-serving bag of fart gas and I won't be voting for him in the election.

So, please educate me, as I seem to have missed this gem of an incident. What was it exactly was the quote that he had said? I must have been looking the other way when it happened and totally missed it.

**Cristiano** · 09-12-2012, 09:32 PM

**Cristiano** · 09-12-2012, 09:32 PM

The Lost Soul Of Mitt Romney - Forbes

Polo · 09-12-2012, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eva Ryan

Trust me, I like Romney just about as much as I like constipation. In fact, just to make it clear, I think he's a totally selfish, self-serving bag of fart gas and I won't be voting for him in the election.

So, please educate me, as I seem to have missed this gem of an incident. What was it exactly was the quote that he had said? I must have been looking the other way when it happened and totally missed it.

Romney accused Obama of responding to the fatal attack on our ambassador and others with an "apology" to the attackers:

Quote:

After the deplorable attacks of yesterday, Romney this morning appeared at a podium and came back to the apology theme. According to a transcript of the proceedings, Romney repeated the attack multiple times, saying that it’s a “a terrible course to — for America to — to stand in apology for our values,” that “an apology for America’s values is never the right course,” that “the statement that came from the administration was a statement which is akin to apology and I think was a severe miscalculation,” that it was “a disgraceful statement on the part of our administration to apologize for American values,” that “having that embassy reiterate a statement effectively apologizing for the right of free speech is not the right course for an administration,” that we need to recognize “that the principles America is based upon is not something we shrink from or apologize for.”

So just what is Romney referring to here? It’s a statement that the U.S. Embassy in Cairo issued before protesters attacked the compound.

Romney attack on Obama: Is that an apology? Leave it to the fact-checkers - Erik Wemple - The Washington Post

About six hours before.

**Beebo Brink** · 09-12-2012, 09:59 PM

Quote:

"An attack on an Embassy, the murder of U.S. officials including an Ambassador, is an attack on all Americans and the idea of America — and Romney gave terrorists what they want — a divided country still torn emotionally and politically by the events of 9-11. Romney talks of leadership but with his reckless commentary when events were fragile and still unfolding, he belly-flopped."

Foreign Policy Hands Voice Disbelief At Romney Cairo Statement

**Cristiano** · 09-12-2012, 10:03 PM

Eva Ryan · 09-12-2012, 10:22 PM

Thanks everyone

**Cristiano** · 09-12-2012, 10:40 PM

**Eunoli Rain** · 09-12-2012, 10:43 PM

Wow. Forbes? Really? When Forbes goes dissing a Republican candidate that's heavy. They aren't exactly liberal central.

**Beebo Brink** · 09-12-2012, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cristiano

Either he listened to advisors who are so blinded by ideology and their agenda that they can't set aside partisanship even in the midst of an unfolding diplomatic crises....

...or Romney didn't listen to them in order to take political advantage of a diplomatic crisis at the expense of a united front.

Either way, he's unqualified for a leadership role.

Chip Midnight · 09-12-2012, 11:20 PM

I agree with him on one point, that the initial statement by the embassy was inappropriate, but so apparently did the White House which disavowed it.

Quote:

"The statement by Embassy Cairo was not cleared by Washington and does not reflect the views of the United States government," an administration official told POLITICO.

Obama administration disavows Cairo 'apology' - POLITICO.com

It was written by career diplomats in Cairo without input or approval from the administration. So Romney managed to take something both he and the administration were essentially on the same page about and turn it into a baseless partisan cheap shot.

Obama's response to the attack was even handed.

**Lo Jacobs** · 09-13-2012, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chip Midnight

I agree with him on one point, that the initial statement by the embassy was inappropriate, but so apparently did the White House which disavowed it.

Yes, but the original embassy statement took place before the riot broke out. They were obviously trying to save their own asses and look where it got them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Tomasky

First, the embassy in Cairo--not the White House, not Foggy Bottom, but the embassy--released its statement denouncing (not by name) the makers of the inflammatory film about Mohammed. That was around noon local time Tuesday.

Then the attacks happened.

Then, last night, came Romney's statement criticizing the Obama administration for its allegedly "disgraceful... first response" being "to sympathize with those who waged the attacks."

But: the attack hadn't happened! That first embassy statement was apparently issued because word was circulating about possible violence, and the embassy was trying to quell it.

Then the Obama administration distanced itself from the original embassy statement, and then Romney issued last night's statement.

So here's Romney now, at 10:18 am, now that he must surely know this chronology, still defending his statement from last night and criticizing Obama for defending the attackers.

[The Daily Beast]

Romney Stands by Obama Criticism on Libya - YouTube

pancake · 09-13-2012, 12:47 AM

I've followed American politics more closely in the last year than I ever have in my life. I'm not sure if that's a side effect of my time here in SLU, or a heightened interest now that I have family who are American Residents.

Regardless, though I've never particularly agreed with the style of politics, economic or social platforms represented by Mitt Romney or the GOP, they haven't bothered me on a personal level until tonight.

I just spent the last 4 hours watching CNN and have seen clips of Romney's statements aired over and over again and I can only say one thing.

This man embodies, even exudes, all the sterotypical things the world hates about Americans.

I'm sorry, I know this is a primarily American board, but I'm not insulting the members personally. I have to be honest though, there are notions about the United States and Americans that though may not be accurate do persist. From arrogance to materialism he is waving them all in the face of the world during this precarious time.

I truly hope we never see him become the Commander In Chief of the worlds Super Power. Not only does he appear to lack the diplomacy required in this day and age, but quite frankly I think that his presense alone in that role would be taunting.

**Bard Jameson** · 09-13-2012, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pancake

I have to be honest though, there are notions about the United States and Americans that though may not be accurate do persist. From arrogance to materialism he is waving them all in the face of the world during this precarious time.

You know how sometimes your buddy can see where you're being an asshole but you can't see it yourself?

Yeah. There's that.

pancake · 09-13-2012, 01:15 AM

Bard, before responding, I want to make sure I understood your post so I sent you a PM.

-------------

ETA - I'll respond anyway, and if I'm incorrect you can let me know.

I think you're calling me an asshole for saying that, but that's ok.

Me being an asshole doesn't change the fact that there are people all over the world who despise the United States and Americans based on inaccurate notions and stereotypes and that Mitt Romney, unfortunately, resembles many of those complaints and accusations even if every day american may not.

I do believe the kind of behaviour he's shown in the last 24 hrs will fuel those anti-American sentiments that extremists in particular use to garner support and that frightens me. For better or worse, American foreign policy doesn't only affect the United States and I don't believe tensions will be eased with him at the helm.

**Circle Widdershins** · 09-13-2012, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pancake

Bard, before responding, I want to make sure I understood your post so I sent you a PM.

-------------

ETA - I'll respond anyway, and if I'm incorrect you can let me know.

I think you're calling me an asshole for saying that, but that's ok.

Me being an asshole doesn't change the fact that there are people all over the world who despise the United States and Americans based on inaccurate notions and stereotypes and that Mitt Romney, unfortunately, resembles many of those complaints and accusations even if every day american may not.

I do believe the kind of behaviour he's shown in the last 24 hrs will fuel those anti-American sentiments that extremists in particular use to garner support and that frightens me. For better or worse, American foreign policy doesn't only affect the United States and I don't believe tensions will be eased with him at the helm.

I doubt very much that Bard is calling you an asshole. It would be completely out of character for him.

My interpretation of his words was that "buddies" represented countries outside the US, and that sometimes individuals (or nations) can't see their own faults as clearly as others can.

pancake · 09-13-2012, 02:20 AM

Thanks Circle, I hope you are right.

I admit, I was scared to say what I did, especially here of all places, but I am truly concerned about what the world will look like under President Romney and it made me bolder than I normally am on political issues.

**Joshua Nightshade** · 09-13-2012, 02:22 AM

I read it the same way Circle did.

You are an asshole though. Evil terrorist maple syrup asshole.

pancake · 09-13-2012, 02:24 AM

You know, I'm so tired of being called cute that I gladly accepted the asshole title.

Don't ruin my moment!

detrius · 09-13-2012, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pancake

I think you're calling me an asshole for saying that, but that's ok.

Circle and Joshua already said so, and I also think that Bard was definitely agreeing with you, not calling you an asshole but describing the relationship between America and its allies.

**Joshua Nightshade** · 09-13-2012, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pancake

You know, I'm so tired of being called cute that I gladly accepted the asshole title.

Don't ruin my moment!

Moment's ruined, cutie.

09-12-2012, 08:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
Beebo Brink Senior Curmudgeon *SLU Supporter* I'm the woman your mother warned you about. Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 13,627 My Mood: SL Join Date: October 2006 Business: Brazen Women Shapes and Skins Client: v3 + Starlight	Romney is not fit to be president Romney's utterly distasteful and inaccurate statements concerning the attacks on a US embassy should disqualify him. There is simply no excuse for his sniping. __________________ Noob: "okay.... im in a house with cages and people in gags and the door just locked and i cant get out :c"

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Lianne Marten Grumpy Fun-Hater Bleh Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,761 My Mood: SL Join Date: 5/6/2004	I would have said that even before his weird-ass performance last night, but that pretty much clinched it. Also I went from simply rolling my eyes at everything he says and does to straight up hating him now. If he wasn't running one of the worst, if not THE worst, presidential campaigns ever i'd be a lot more worried. As it is he'll simply get 49% of the vote because that's how our electorate has been sectioned. Or he'll win and i'll be applying for New Zealand residency. __________________

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Eva Ryan Kept in the dark... Resident Mushroom Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: California Posts: 1,303 My Mood: SL Join Date: July 6, 2006 Client: Phoenix/Cool VL	Trust me, I like Romney just about as much as I like constipation. In fact, just to make it clear, I think he's a totally selfish, self-serving bag of fart gas and I won't be voting for him in the election. So, please educate me, as I seem to have missed this gem of an incident. What was it exactly was the quote that he had said? I must have been looking the other way when it happened and totally missed it. __________________ ElyHynes Elysium @EvaRyanSL is so FIC Humble follows her

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pancake SLU Fluffer Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: The True North Posts: 3,438 My Mood: SL Join Date: 2007 Client: Usually Catznip but I dabble a lot in others Awards: 1	I've followed American politics more closely in the last year than I ever have in my life. I'm not sure if that's a side effect of my time here in SLU, or a heightened interest now that I have family who are American Residents. Regardless, though I've never particularly agreed with the style of politics, economic or social platforms represented by Mitt Romney or the GOP, they haven't bothered me on a personal level until tonight. I just spent the last 4 hours watching CNN and have seen clips of Romney's statements aired over and over again and I can only say one thing. This man embodies, even exudes, all the sterotypical things the world hates about Americans. I'm sorry, I know this is a primarily American board, but I'm not insulting the members personally. I have to be honest though, there are notions about the United States and Americans that though may not be accurate do persist. From arrogance to materialism he is waving them all in the face of the world during this precarious time. I truly hope we never see him become the Commander In Chief of the worlds Super Power. Not only does he appear to lack the diplomacy required in this day and age, but quite frankly I think that his presense alone in that role would be taunting. __________________ My blog and my pictures "It's one thing to have a difference of opinion, it is quite another to be a consistently toxic ass" ~ Cristiano

09-12-2012, 09:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
Polo Senior Member What the cuss?!?? Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,492 SL Join Date: May 3, 2008 Client: still 1.23 as long as possible	As we all know, there are US voters who won't even know about this, or at least who won't know the facts which prove how out-of-line Romney was. There are plenty who will vote for The White Guy no matter what. Given that, though: It is surprising that so many big names (or fairly big names) on the GOP side are not only NOT backing Romney's choices, today, but are actually speaking out to criticize him. While horrified for the families of those who died, I confess to feeling somewhat better about our political sphere. I would have expected the right to be in lock-step in support of Romney's fact-free politicizing of this tragedy; I'm glad that's turned out not to be the case.

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Eunoli Rain Senior Member *SLU Supporter* Not eating peas Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Shady Falls Posts: 2,037	Wow. Forbes? Really? When Forbes goes dissing a Republican candidate that's heavy. They aren't exactly liberal central.

09-13-2012, 01:15 AM	#19 (permalink)
pancake SLU Fluffer Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: The True North Posts: 3,438 My Mood: SL Join Date: 2007 Client: Usually Catznip but I dabble a lot in others Awards: 1	Bard, before responding, I want to make sure I understood your post so I sent you a PM. ------------- ETA - I'll respond anyway, and if I'm incorrect you can let me know. I think you're calling me an asshole for saying that, but that's ok. Me being an asshole doesn't change the fact that there are people all over the world who despise the United States and Americans based on inaccurate notions and stereotypes and that Mitt Romney, unfortunately, resembles many of those complaints and accusations even if every day american may not. I do believe the kind of behaviour he's shown in the last 24 hrs will fuel those anti-American sentiments that extremists in particular use to garner support and that frightens me. For better or worse, American foreign policy doesn't only affect the United States and I don't believe tensions will be eased with him at the helm. Last edited by pancake; 09-13-2012 at 01:34 AM.

09-13-2012, 02:20 AM	#21 (permalink)
pancake SLU Fluffer Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: The True North Posts: 3,438 My Mood: SL Join Date: 2007 Client: Usually Catznip but I dabble a lot in others Awards: 1	Thanks Circle, I hope you are right. I admit, I was scared to say what I did, especially here of all places, but I am truly concerned about what the world will look like under President Romney and it made me bolder than I normally am on political issues.

09-13-2012, 02:24 AM	#23 (permalink)
pancake SLU Fluffer Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: The True North Posts: 3,438 My Mood: SL Join Date: 2007 Client: Usually Catznip but I dabble a lot in others Awards: 1	You know, I'm so tired of being called cute that I gladly accepted the asshole title. Don't ruin my moment!

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