Nika Talaj

So, speaking of butthurt, today Muslims in Egypt and Libya are rioting because of some unnamed internet footage somewhere produced by somebody that insults Mohammed.

My first reaction was: mymymy. Somebody with good media skills wants to stir up trouble on Sept. 11th.

But perhaps I'm cynical. Perhaps Mohamed al-Zawahiri (brother of al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri) is being sincere when he asked today: "how would the Americans feel if films insulting leading Christian figures like the pope or historical figures like Abraham Lincoln were produced?"

Now, in Islamic terms, "insult" includes making fun of the saint/God, portraying the saint/God having sex, etc..

So, is anyone up for listing such films and how we feel about them? I'll start:

"Dogma" (Kevin Smith). I feel just fine about this film - hilarious.

detrius

And of course, this classic:

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Eris

Monty Python's Life of Brian. Absolutely brilliant.

I'm probably not the kind of person he has in mind. The only movie that made me want to start a riot was The Blair Witch project, because it was so damn bad. So what if a movie or book insults your idol? Man up and grow a pair.

The level of hypersensitivity Muslims have over Muhammad verges on idolatry.

Aimee Weber

US consulate set on fire:

UPDATED: Mob sets fire to US consulate in Benghazi, staffer dies - International - World - Ahram Online


One American killed:

US Official Killed In Libya Prophet Protest


U.S. Embassy Condemns freedom of speech in the U.S.:

Press Release | Embassy of the United States


Popehat has some good commentary on this:

U.S. Embassy In Cairo Apologizes For Our Failure to Execute Blasphemers | Popehat

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Eris

Rioting mobs trying their best to make Western Islamaphobes look right do more harm to Islam's image than all the insults they freak out over combined.

Chip Midnight

Nika Talaj

Here's a serious one, caused much debate in the U.S. and some violence in Paris (unrest was condemned by the Catholic Archbishop of Paris).


Still banned in some places, the film's depiction of Christ in a happy marriage scandalized the sensibility of many Christians. But the bulk of the citizenry never questioned Scorcese's right to make the film.

And, more lightheartedly, Honest Abe sells insurance!

Chip Midnight

I can't believe I just read that spineless capitulation. Personally The only people deserving of condemnation are all the religious zealots who are so lacking in self control, self esteem, and sanity that criticism or ridicule of their sacred cows causes them to fly into a murderous frenzy.

Jahar Aabye

Realistically, this has nothing to do with the film. CNN is reporting that this film has been out for weeks, and that the protest in Egypt at least had been planned for a while and was known to the Egyptian authorities.

I understand that there is very little government authority in Libya, but Egypt has security forces, and CNN is reporting that Egyptian security forces did not intervene when Egyptians tried to enter the embassy.

There are marines in the embassy in Egypt. Regardless of the legal, moral, or political issues involved, if the Egyotian government doesn't do something to ensure the safety of the embassy, those marines will be forced to act. Unfortunately, I also suspect that this is the ultimate goal of the protests.

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Nibb Tardis

Which is pretty much the point of any religion.

The 'movie' in question is actually the work of other religious extremists who are just trying to piss off Muslims with the "My God is better than your God" thing. It is being promoted and defended by that crazy pastor who burnt a Quran a couple of months ago, which was pretty much in the same league.

The movie looks so cheap, stupid, badly written and directed, that anyone would find it stupidly offensive. Seriously, brown face makeup ?

Eris

Chandra Masala

Fortunately, most Muslims don't react like rabid dogs to these sorts of things, or there would be a lot more to worry about than just a few riots.

But many Muslims would also agree that this sort of reaction is akin to idolatry, and I wholeheartedly agree with that observation.

Wrong Weatherwax

I just can't keep a civil thought about this....

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Elysium Hynes

I only see a video with bigoted propaganda that probably had nothing to do with the protests.

My thougths are with those who lost their lifes and their families.

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Kara Spengler

How about the Borgias? Or does that not count because it is television?

I am sure we could come up with plenty of books, comics, songs, and other media. Some of my current faves are 'creationist cousins' and 'what if god was one of us'. Also 'hallelujah' by some interpretations of the lyrics. I am sure there are more in my collection that I can not think of offhand.

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Jahar Aabye

(although I was looking for the clip where he calls the Worldwide Jewish Conspiracy and tells the Moshe Dayan character that they urgently need to send out copies of every movie that portrays Jews in a good light for propaganda purposes, and the leader responds "so you want Fiddler on the Roof and Yenta").

Amity Slade

It doesn't get any better than Andy Kaufman as a televangelist and Richard Pryor as God.


It is easier for Christians in the United States to accept a little satire of religion, because we have a top military defending our freedom of religion, no wars happening on our soil, unemployment at a low 8%, and even a lot of the people we consider poor still have food to eat and places to sleep.

SLShapeshifter

Hells, there's this guy who goes to Sakuracon dressed as Jesus Christ. For fun!

I'd say we're pretty chill with our own religion in general.

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Cristiano

For some reason, "I don't care if it rains of freezes as long as I've got my plastic Jesus glued to the dashboard of my car" popped into my head as I was reading all of this.

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Galen McGinnis

When I watched the clip I was half waiting for Ron Jeremy to arrive and the low budget porno to start.

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Lucifer Baphomet

Porn has higher production standards, and better acting

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