Jopsy Pendragon

Yes, the quote is taken out of context, and I agree with the over-all point Clarke is attempting to make... But this one statement left me disgusted, and insulted. A clear reminder of exactly how 'Uncle Tom'-ish, the LCR continue to be.

Marriage IS a right society grants to spoiled children:

Spoiled Children who marry and then trivially invalidate their impulsive marriages hours/days later.

Spoiled Children who flagrantly disregard their 'in sickness and in health, til death do us part' vows, to dump a sick spouse and marry a hale and hearty mistress.

Spoiled Children who, for publicity reasons, enter sham marriages (sometimes multiple times) in order to prove to their homophobic fans that they're big macho hetero studs.

Spoiled Children who are more concerned about staging their "All About ME! I get to be a Princess for a Day!" mega-party/wedding, and less concerned about whom they're marrying.

Spoiled Children who think that the purpose of marriage is solve the question of "who will clean up after me and cook for me now that I don't live with my mommy anymore?"

Clearly the filthy rich and GOP think that acting like 'spoiled children' is the most effective way to get exactly what they want... and they're succeeding at it. Crybaby Boener leading the way.


So, LCR? How about you STFU and, instead, go tell your GOP masters to pick THEIR battles instead.

Eboni Khan

Out of all the great comments/thoughts in that article, that is what you zero in on? LOL

Isablan Neva

The article is pretty much spot on. I don't support bans on Chick-Fil-A but I do support people not eating there if they disagree with the opinions of the President. The whole point of transparency of political donations is so that people can support businesses or not support businesses as they choose based on political activism.

Chick-Fil-A has a right to be a bigoted asshole, they have a right to make TRANSPARENT and OPEN contributions and the people have a right not to patronize the establishment if they disagree with Chick-Fil-A. Nobody is forcing anybody into a Chick-Fil-A franchise.

Just don't eat there, ask your friends not to eat there. Make sure everyone in your social circle knows Chick-Fil-A's stance on the issue and let them make their own choices.

That's how transparency SHOULD work.

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Richie Waves

You're not a republican because you're gay, You're a republican because you're Rich. Their pocket books rank higher in their priorities than their sexuality, clearly.

Kara Spengler

I never could understand them in the first place. They make about as much sense as people relying on government assistance who think those programs should be cut.

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Jopsy Pendragon

Damned right I did.

If Dan Cathy of Chick-Fil-A came out and said "We proudly support anti-ni**er groups with millions of dollars in donations."

Would you meekly say "oh, well, that's okay... I'll just shop elsewhere."

If someone told you that by exercising your 1st amendment rights to protest against that shop owner, that YOU were wrong and jeopardizing your civil rights movement?

LCR is trying to stop a tide with their precious little sand castle 'measured response' attitude. It's just useless posturing for advantage within their own party. It has nothing to do with helping move respect for marriage equality forward.

Richie Waves

They did say this about blacks back in the civil rights era.

Sredni Eel

Everyone has it wrong. You shouldn't eat at Chic-fil-A because the "food" there is atrocious.

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Richie Waves

Who doesn't like salt?

Jopsy Pendragon

Oh certainly, and there definitely are times for a 'measured response', *after* the playing field has been leveled somewhat.

We're not there yet, and the conservatives are still treating marriage equality as if its some trivial fad that'll fade away if they stall long enough.

Jopsy Pendragon

I wouldn't know. Never gave them a chance. The only location I was aware of used to be in the middle of my very gay neighborhood... and they went out of business years and years ago. (huh, I wonder why)

Sredni Eel

I tried them years and years ago when I was working nearby and only had 30 minutes for lunch. The only place worse than Chic-fil-A is Popeye's. The less said about that place, the better.

Both make KFC seem like fine gourmet dining.

Amity Slade

I don't see what is so radical or extreme about boycotting a restaurant. When it comes to social protest, boycotting a business is about one of the most civil and unpleasant means of social protest available. It's far less confrontational than a sit-in.

Richie Waves

Ironically, a huge plank of the right wing free marketeers ideology is the power of public opinion to boycott companies out of existence.

I guess it's only when it's companies they don't like.

Amity Slade

Change "gay activists" to "radical feminists," and change "boycotting Chick-Fil-A" to "burning bras," and I'm pretty sure I've heard Clarke's argument decades ago.

Eboni Khan

Basically most corporations support anti-nigger groups. I am under no illusions about the lay of the land. And few threads ago I defended the right of the KKK to adopt a highway, on the basis of free speech.

I'm not sure if the fact they are Log Cabin Republicans is completely clouding your reading comprehension, but he didn't say anything against marriage. He said be careful with this ChikFila bullshit, because it can back fire on the agenda. Which I think it totally can and probably will, people are just creating a martyr where there doesn't need to be one. The is giving all those bible thumpers (ChikFilA is in the bible belt right?) a rallying point, and a brand to protect.

That aside, as I have stated before I feel that the gay equal rights movement is killing themselves on pushing marriage. They should be pushing general full on equality. Why would I support marriage, any marriage agenda gay or straight? Marriage is the most conservative and archaic of social constructs. I am for the rights of all people to be equal, like more equality to access of rights and benefits for people that are not in romantic relationships. So marriage, meh. I don't care. Equal rights, I would be willing to lay my life down for everyone to be treated equally.Equal rights for gays includes the right to marry and the right protect their partners but it is about a lot more than just marriage, equality at work, school, etc.

This Chik-Fil-A movement of some bullshit, for a small chain that isn't even nationwide. There isn't a restaurant within a hundred miles of where I live. I feel it is unconstitutional to deny businesses permits based on their political or religious views, and I hope the ACLU takes up the case of Chik-Fil-A being denied permits in Boston. It starts with the clear cut cases that "everyone" can agree on, then it always gets murkier. If everyone can't be treated equally and equal access, then everyone loses.

Kokoro Fasching

Chick-fil-A Restaurant Directory | Chicken Sandwich Restaurants

Looks like they are in 39 of 50 states... yep.. pretty small chain...

Tiny place indeed.

Eboni Khan

Yeah it is a small chain, I can throw a rock and hit 4 McDonalds. They don't have a lot of free standing stores, they are in malls, and colleges. There isn't one free standing one in this entire state. They are small time.

Nice to know corporate propaganda still works though.

Amity Slade

I know this, Chick-Fil-A employs about half of my cousins' teenage children. And I have a whole lot of cousins.

Richie Waves

Hilarious. Probably your inner republican wanting to call a chain in most US states "small"..

Tracer Graves

Actually, I think the article on the whole wasn't very good, and that line right there is a bunch of stupid bullshit, well worth highlighting.

Yeah... <sarcasm>Those spoiled little faggots stamping their feet cause they can't legally marry the person they love. What a bunch of petulant whiners!</sarcasm>

WTF?!

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Eboni Khan

They are small, compared to other fast food restaurants. They are in limited locations, most malls won't even accept them because they are not open on Sundays.

I have no idea what math has to do with my inner republican. Richie you can troll me better than this, I expect more from you.

Locations in states doesn't matter as much as marketshare. I would imagine since they are small stores in rented locations they have a high profit ratio, but they aren't even in top 10 of anything.

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Tracer Graves

And to be perfectly honest, making a massive public spectacle of a business that is publicly anti human rights is PRECISELY what we need to do.

Amity Slade

So what is the size threshold of a company before it becomes a legitimate target of a boycott?

Eboni Khan

I have zero issues with a boycott. Governments denying permits is another topic.