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Old 07-07-2012, 07:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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White People's Day Tweet

Butt hurt people who can't deal with unpleasant historical facts.

Chris Rock 'White People's Day' July 4th Tweet Sparks Controversy
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Old 07-07-2012, 07:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm sitting here thinking... Chris Rock made a 'white people' joke? Uh, ain't that half his act? (O.o)
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I'm sitting here thinking... Chris Rock made a 'white people' joke? Uh, ain't that half his act? (O.o)
And more to the point, ain't it the truth?
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I'm sitting here thinking... Chris Rock made a 'white people' joke? Uh, ain't that half his act? (O.o)
Not really...

Most of Chris' act consists of laughing at his own community
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Old 07-07-2012, 08:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Not really...

Most of Chris' act consists of laughing at his own community
He makes jokes about multi millionaire entertainers?
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He makes jokes about multi millionaire entertainers?
He grew up in a poor community in Brooklyn, which was predominantly Jewish and Black.

His wife owns and operates a non profit salon, that provides free services for women attempting to get into work and off of welfare, so I'd hazard that he's still in touch with his roots
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Pretty much. He's good peoples. Getting on his butt over a 'white people' joke is just dumb. (^_^)
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Libertarian-conservative blogger Jeff Schreiber went so far as to attempt giving Rock a quick history lesson: "Slavery existed for 2000yrs before America. We eradicated it in 100yrs. We now have a black POTUS. #GoFuckYourself."
Distorted history aside, this is a prime example of ugly racist attitude rearing its head. He forgets the part about how the South still had segregation, lynchings and open discrimination clear into the 70s.

Chris Rock was right, although I'd say that in 2012 I want to share my independence with African-Americans, Latinos, Asians, Brazilians and everyone else who came to this country since the 18th century. The backlash against his comment tells me we're not as far along as we thought.
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:39 PM   #10 (permalink)
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So many white people get offended when you point out their own privilege. They have the gall to call you "reverse racist." It is ridiculous.
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So many white people get offended when you point out their own privilege. They have the gall to call you "reverse racist." It is ridiculous.
In the minds of said people (I'm not saying "all" white folks), its not "privilege", its the "natural order". Giving "those people" equal rights or putting one in the White House are crimes against nature.
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Yeah, they are the same people who say shit like "Affirmative action does not apply to the presidency."
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Giving "those people" equal rights
Yeah, disturbing isn't it? The concept that equal rights should be given by a somehow false superior people? Kind of a really sick paternalistic spirit there.

As to the comment from Chris? Seriously, what a silly assed think to get upset about.
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Yeah, disturbing isn't it? The concept that equal rights should be given by a somehow false superior people? Kind of a really sick paternalistic spirit there.

As to the comment from Chris? Seriously, what a silly assed think to get upset about.
There is still a sick paternalism very present.
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Old 07-08-2012, 04:06 AM   #15 (permalink)
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And more to the point, ain't it the truth?
he ain't wrong....

... and I'll get slapped for saying this, but he ain't right either. the statement was true, and funny (I can even hear his ironic tone in my head, and I love it).... but it's funny because it isn't current. He's a comedian so I don't really expect some deep social analysis of it over a throwaway joke, but it doesn't say anything really about current problems for minorities. it's even a little divisive over something that should arguably bring everyone in the country together....

... but meh, he's a comedian, so I don't get what the hell people are groaning about. He pointed out something that people forget or ignore and made most of them laugh in the process... I think he lives up to his billing.
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Look at one of the choices given in the article's poll.


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Chris Rock's "white people's independence day" joke was:
- Funny
- Unpatriotic
- A good point but delivered in the wrong way
- Not funny, but important
- Both funny and incisive
- Who cares what someone tweeted?
Why is it that whenever someone criticizes, asks a hard question, or simply states the truth about the U.S. they are branded by some as unpatriotic? This has got to stop.
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Why is it that whenever someone criticizes, asks a hard question, or simply states the truth about the U.S. they are branded by some as unpatriotic?
Because it lets them get all self-righteous and pretend that it's not just about their own ego.
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I remember being told I was unpatriotic right after 9/11 [I mean right after, when the scum sucking leeches started profiting off of a tragedy], because I said that it was unpatriotic to destroy the american flag just to have on waving from your antenna.

As for the joke, its half right - there were non-slave blacks before the revolution, even before southern plantations even really got a start [the original slaves were treated like any other indentured servant from europe initially]. In the south, you had slavery but the north didn't, it is even a part of the consitution.

But to get butthurt over it and lash out shows a certain level of knowing deep in their hearts the sentiment is still true - that there is still racism in this country.

[And there is such a thing as reverse racism, but this sure the hell isn't it.
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So, today is the 9th of July.

The day that 92 years after the declaration of independence, the 14th amendment was ratified.

A day as significant for African Americans, as the 4th, if you think about it, and of course, it's not commemorated at all.

Just goes to show Chris Rock is right.
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So, today is the 9th of July.

The day that 92 years after the declaration of independence, the 14th amendment was ratified.

A day as significant for African Americans, as the 4th, if you think about it, and of course, it's not commemorated at all.
Well it is sorta, but it's part of the Junteenth celebration. it's not a national holiday yet but i think it's on it's way.
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As for the joke, its half right - there were non-slave blacks before the revolution, even before southern plantations even really got a start [the original slaves were treated like any other indentured servant from europe initially].
Yeah, don't even pretend that black people had it good anywhere at that time.
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[the original slaves were treated like any other indentured servant from europe initially].
So the european indentured servants were kidnapped from their homes against their will, separated from their families, chained together in hellish conditions at sea, sold to the highest bidder and knew that no matter what happened, they and their descendants would never be free?
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in some cases the effective answer to that question is, yes. Further, there were quite a few in the US that only missed out on the "hellish conditions at sea". but that's neither here nor there, since once owned (or leased, as it were) a person was property...

... a concept I am happy to not have lived with, even if some places still practice it effectively (mostly on women).
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As for the joke, its half right - there were non-slave blacks before the revolution, even before southern plantations even really got a start [the original slaves were treated like any other indentured servant from europe initially].
The 'joke' is 100% right. Indentured Servants weren't kidnapped and forced to work forever.
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