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Old 06-27-2012, 03:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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GOP lawmaker on video admiting voter ID laws will hand Romney the election

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Republican State Representative Mike Turzai Of Pennsylvania admits that the voter ID laws were several of the required steps necessary to make Mitt Romney win Pennsylvania. This is something all Democrats knew even as Republicans kept denying it.
The reality is that there is not voter fraud of any consequence in America. The only potential fraud is in the machines that tally the votes with absolutely no traceability. Ironically the manufacturers of these machines have generally had an affinity for the Republican Party. Maybe we should consider having VOTER MACHINE ID to ensure they are tallying the votes correctly and that they are not fraudulently giving elections to Republicans.
Giving that a vote for Republicans in these times are generally a vote against the middle class, and given that we must assume that the middle class will not disproportionately vote against its own interest, maybe that is where fraud is to be found.

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The video of his remarks shows him getting big applause for his "Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania--DONE" line.

He may not consider it a gaffe. He may feel that the GOP can be perfectly open about voter suppression, since the mass of low-information voters are paying no attention anyway. The GOP will face no negative consequences for suppressing the votes of those likely to vote for Democrats...so why should they try to keep their efforts secret?
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the problem is, this isn't a republican admitting voter suppression, this is a republican accusing democrats of ballot stuffing.... and that's exactly how it'll spin.

the reality is that both are the ridiculous accusation and voter suppression are in effect here, which makes it even uglier, only with 3 blades instead of just the one. yes, 3; think about it.
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the problem is, this isn't a republican admitting voter suppression, this is a republican accusing democrats of ballot stuffing.... and that's exactly how it'll spin.
Yes, I think you're right. He almost certainly intended to convey the meaning that his party's efforts had succeeded in preventing ballot stuffing, rather than the meaning that his party's efforts would keep Democratic-leaning voters from being able to vote. It was just the MSNBC types who made hay with the 'he admits to suppressing votes' storyline.

Though I still think that Turzai and his ilk DO discuss 'discouraging' the votes of students, blacks, Latinos, and other likely Democratic-leaners, behind closed doors---and feel little shame about it. They ARE aware that most people aren't paying attention.

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the reality is that both are the ridiculous accusation and voter suppression are in effect here, which makes it even uglier, only with 3 blades instead of just the one. yes, 3; think about it.
Can you expand on this? I'm not following the "3 blades" reference.
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Though I still think that Turzai and his ilk DO discuss 'discouraging' the votes of students, blacks, Latinos, and other likely Democratic-leaners, behind closed doors---and feel little shame about it. They ARE aware that most people aren't paying attention.[...]
I agree, in fact, from what I see they don't bother with closed doors any more

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Can you expand on this? I'm not following the "3 blades" reference.
blade = working end of a knife... no reference to anything particular outside of cutting and stabbing... my brain was taking too long to pick a more appropriate analogy so I vetoed.

goals achieved:
1) Voter Suppression (hamper the opposition)
2) Falsly imply the opposition is doing wrong (demonize the opposition)
3) Claim victory over the above (sanctify themselves)

I'll give them credit, it's beautifully organized, because almost no one is directly challenging #2 even though ballot stuffing has a stronger past with conservatives, because it leaves them the claim of cleaning up their side, so what's the other side doing? which gives a free pass to #3... quite good tactically if you're out to win hearts.
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