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View Poll Results: DO YOU PLACE YOUR FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST, BELIEVING THAT HE DIED AND ROSE AGAIN?
YES 13 8.50%
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I ALREADY PRAYED/ACCETED JESUS IN MY HEART BEFORE 11 7.19%
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Old 07-07-2012, 10:06 PM   #4251 (permalink)
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He couldn't have done it by himself.
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It's not a leg bone.
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i was just wondering .. over my morning coffee..
about all the christians who might be taking medication for psychological problems...for epilepsy .. for autism.. for tourettes... i mean.. there has to be some who do..

isnt it very unchristian of them? shouldnt there just be some drive through pig farm for extraction of demons?

if one is willing to believe in dragons .. and dinosaurs walking alongside man.. and speaking bushfires.. and seas parting.. and man being made from dust and deposited completely evolved on this earth.. then one must go the whole distance and reject all of science...
shun innoculation
shun mammograms, and surgery and root canals .. chemotherapy, birth control and masturbation..
if one claims in god we trust.. then one should stop hedging one's bets with evil science...
one should not just take bits and pieces of the word of god as it suits one politically..
thats blasphemy in anyone's terms.

i think xfrodobagginsx should log himself off the internet.. and go find himself a mountain top to preach from..
one free of evil modern comforts.. one far from packaged food and mass produced clothing made of mixed fiber...
his mortal soul is at peril.

Nawww...
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It's not a leg bone.
Cetaceans have the remnants of a pelvic girdle and, in some cases, femurs, aka leg bones.

ETA: And what exactly do you think it is, anyway?

God said, "Let there be random purposeless bones!" and, lo, there were random purposeless bones!
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Old 07-07-2012, 10:58 PM   #4256 (permalink)
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If God is the source of objective morality, why does that morality change over time?

Why don't you keep the Sabbath?

You aren't allowed to support your position with arguments you don't believe.
I've already told you why. Because the bible says that I don't need to keep it anymore. You are the one who doesn't believe.
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:01 PM   #4257 (permalink)
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Mohamed makes the same claim. (^_^)

Joseph Smith as well. (^_^)

All you're doing is fighting it out to see who's "god" has the biggest ding-ding. =^-^=
But secular history supports the Bible. The quran contradicts secular history and joseph smith contradicts the bible.
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I have a question? Wouldn't this not technically be his 3rd coming? I mean he was here once, then there was that nasty thing with the cross and stuff. Then 3 days later, you know respawn. That would be two. So if he doesn't come back would that not be 3? Does anyone else count 3?
No, physically He didn't leave the earth when He died on the cross and rose from the dead until 40 days after the resurrction, therefore, it will be His second coming (physically) to the earth.
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Nawww...
That may be the best argument you've come up with to date.

That should tell you something.
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100 million members across the world?
I can see how you feel downtrodden, victimized, and ganged up on.
Yes, that IS the Liberals idea of a fair fight. 10 to 1, but not only that, they are vicious and cruel and accuse others of what they themselves are most guilty of.
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It's not a leg bone.
LOL yes it is. It's a vestigial femur and pelvic bone. Vestigial, like our appendix.
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Anyone interested in what the US Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit made of Hovind's appeal against his conviction and sentence on 58 counts related to tax evasion can find the results here.
It's ashame what they did to that good man, just for spreading the truth around.
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It's ashame what they did to that good man, just for spreading the truth around.
Really? You're blaming the judicial system because your hero failed to pay his taxes?
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Because he broke the laws of Moses. (^_^)Because they broke the laws of Moses. (^_^)Because he broke the laws of Moses. (^_^)Because he broke the laws of Moses. (^_^)

They all idolized a man who fancied himself a god and resorted to magic and wizardry to impress the crowds. (^_^)y
First of all, Jesus KEPT the law 100%, therefore, you are wrong about Him. Secondly, if you actually read the bible, that's not why the people killed them.

Are you saying that you keep the law of moses?

These are the reasons why they were killed and it sounds a lot like what's happening at this site, now doesn't it? They were killed for preaching the word of God and for preaching in the name of Jesus Christ, giving the plan of salvation.

They sought to Kill Peter:


Ac 5:28 Saying, Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name? and, behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your doctrine, and intend to bring this man's blood upon us. Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Peter and John:

Ac 4:18 And they called them, and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Jesus. But Peter and John answered and said unto them, Whether it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto you more than unto God, judge ye. For we cannot but speak the things which we have seen and heard.

Ac 15:26 Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

They sought to kill Paul:

Ac 21:28 Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place.(For they had seen before with him in the city Trophimus an Ephesian, whom they supposed that Paul had brought into the temple.)
And all the city was moved, and the people ran together: and they took Paul, and drew him the temple: and forthwith the doors were shut.
And as they went about to kill him, tidings came unto the chief captain of the band, that all Jerusalem was in an uproar.

The sought to kill Jesus:

Joh 8:37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.
I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.
They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. {of his own: or, from his own will or disposition}
And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
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First of all, Jesus KEPT the law 100%, therefore, you are wrong about Him. Secondly, if you actually read the bible, that's not why the people killed them.
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Yes, that IS the Liberals idea of a fair fight. 10 to 1, but not only that, they are vicious and cruel and accuse others of what they themselves are most guilty of.
The amount of psychological projection here is just amazing.
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Ps 92:10 But my horn shalt thou exalt like the horn of an unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil.
Umm....think about this for a second
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These are the reasons why they were killed and it sounds a lot like what's happening at this site, now doesn't it?
How is laughing at (or attempting to correct) your pathetic attempts to selectively link your interpretation of the Bible to actual history and science in any way similar to the executions of the early Christians?

Oh, here's something for you to consider. There are Muslims (one in particular who is active on another forum) who seek to justify the Koran by selectively linking passages to actual history and science... And it all sounds similar to what you are saying.
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I must have a dirty mind, because I immediately though of it from a sexual standpoint-the horn being a certain male appendage to be anointed.
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Nawww...
So how are some things science have given us okay and not others? Unlike what you think you can do with your bible I am afraid us secular folk do not allow that. So if you want to be idealogically pure you can not be a hypocrite. I am sure all those christians who depend on various medical advancements will cheer your leading the way on it so hand over any pills you are taking and refuse to go to the dr as of now.



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I've already told you why. Because the bible says that I don't need to keep it anymore. You are the one who doesn't believe.
I suppose you do not need to keep the other 9 commandments then because jesus 'completed' the law? Can you please point me to passages that specify EACH of the other 9 as reinstated then as I have yet to hear of a christian who did not follow them.

Come to think of it, many follow that one too. In some parts of the country you do not even try to *call* anyone before Sunday afternoon (and then only in an emergency).

So what is your logic for ignoring it while following the others? Or should we conclude that you are a murderer who constantly tells lies and flips off his deity?

The phrase 'remember the sabbath and keep it holy' has been taken to mean to do spend that day in prayer, ie, to do no secular work. While modern people just choose to use the internet 24/7 anyway (about as much as they breathe) only an IDIOT would not see that you are not driving people further away by your actions.

We are not talking about what people actually do but what your little rulebook says to do. Again, the only reasoning for throwing out that commandment would mean throwing out all of them .... so why do you follow the rest (assuming you do)?
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First of all, Jesus KEPT the law 100%,
They sought to Kill Peter:

Peter and John:

They sought to kill Paul:

The sought to kill Jesus:
Ah, another "blame the Jews for the death of Jesus and persecution of his disciples" Christian.

Nice.
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