Joshua Nightshade

Tricksy hobbitses.

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Jopsy Pendragon

Yep, but you try to meddle in our 'issues' anyway.

You can rationalize* your faith until you're blue in the face, it doesn't change the fact that you simply believe, and I simply don't.

*rationalize: an ttempt to explain or justify (one's own or another's behavior or attitude) with logical, plausible reasons, even if these are not true

Your rationalizations seem convincing only to you, and people who believe as you do... because you'd want so desperately for the conclusion to be true that it clouds your judgement and results in NON-critical thinking.

To someone not immersed in your faith, it comes across as entirely too internally contradictory: God is Love... but set's traps for his wayward creations so he can make them suffer for all eternity if they don't lick his divine toes the right way.

Consider that I'm a man who kinda self-identifies as 'Gay'. When you tell me to "just believe" in your faith... a faith that condemns me for trying to live as would be natural for me... it comes across sounding like this:

You: Ice cream is AWESOME everyone should love ice cream! It's cold, it's sweet, it's delicious, its got milk which is good for you!

Me: I don't like Ice Cream.

You: Have you tried THIS ice cream!? It's the BEST! You MUST try it or you're gonna miss out on so much enjoyment!!!

Me: NO, thank you.

You: But you'll never know how happy this could have made you if you don't try! All you have to do is TRY!

Me: I'm allergic to milk products. Your awesome ice cream would make me break out in hives and give me a migraine that lasts a week.

You: I don't believe you! Ice cream could never make anyone feel bad... Can't you just try a little bit?

Me: ARGH! I'm not going to make myself completely miserable just so you can make your favorite ice cream manufacture happy with one more sale.

Kara Spengler

Lesser Banishing Ritual and Greater Banishing Ritual I am guessing from the context? I am used to seeing LBRP/GBRP (where the P is Pentagram) but I suppose leaving off the last letter makes it a more generic term.

Oh, one of the reasons why my Wicca teacher was probably happy when I graduated and she did not have to deal with my interpreting assignments. This was my response to having to learn the lbrp. Translate the english and hebrew to finnish first:


English of Qabalistic Cross & Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram
Soumi version

Ateh (“thine”)
sinun
Malkuth (‘the Kingdom”)
kuningaskunta
Ve-Geburah (“and the Glory”)
ja ylpeillä
Ve-gedulah (“and the Power”)
ja eksponentti
Le oh lahm (“forever”)
ainiaaksi OR ikuisesti
Amen
Vastuunalainen OR mukautuva OR taipuvainen OR suopea OR altis OR aamen

Yhvh (“he is”)
Jehova
Adonai (“my lord”)
Meidän (lit: father)
Eiheie (“I am” or “I shall be”)
I-kirjain olen
Agla (“Thou art great forever, my lord”)
Sinä ammatti erinomainen ainiaaksi , minun haltija

Before me stands Raphael (rah-fay-el)
Aiemmin we pysähdys Raphael
Behind me stands Gabriel (gab~brie-el)
Takainen we pysähdys Gabriel
On my right stands Michael (mich-ay-el)
Model after minun aivan pysähdys Mikael
On my left stands Auriel (aw-re-el)
Model after minun jäljelle pysähdys Auriel

Around me flame the Pentagrams
Liepeillä we heila Pentagrams
Behind me shines the six-rayed star.
Takainen we hohde kuusi rayed päähenkilö.
Above my head is the Glory of the God and the Goddess
Edellä minun johtaa on Ylpeillä -lta Jumala ja Jumalatar

In whose hands are the Kingdom
Kotona joiden kädenlyönti aari Kuningaskunta
The might / the Power
mahti
And the Splendor / and the Glory
Ja Loiste
For ever and ever, world without end
Ajaksi aina ja aina, maailma ilman häntäpää

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Sonja Aeghin

Before long we'll be singing, "This is the thread that never ends..."

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Kara Spengler

then on the same page you said ....

So, if someone was a christian at one point then not later you GIVE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ANSWERS ABOUT THE SITUATION.

Roxanne Blue

Wasted? Is that you?

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xfrodobagginsx

To those who haven't yet: Please take the time to read this first post and pray that prayer from your heart at the bottom of it. Then vote in the poll. Thank you.

Casey Pelous

I imagine you're basing this on DNA evidence? Fingerprints, maybe?



WANT! CAN'T HAVE! Yer killing me. Killing me, I say!

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Ann Launay

Because, you know, reciting some words from an internet forum is totally the path to salvation.

Sorry.

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Do rabbits chew the cud?

Romana

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Cindy Claveau

You're fucking hopeless.



Your act is tired and worn out. You obviously don't even realize what a laughing stock you are here because you keep spewing this shit over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

Just fuck off for godsakes. Nobody gives a red monkey's ass about your version of reality.

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Eris

There are real world applications for evolutionary theory. If it didn't work, it wouldn't be used. In the pharmacutical and petroleum industries, for example. Creationists aren't blackballed because of some liberal conspiracy against God. Creationism has nothing of value to offer.

If creation science had any useful real world application aside from separating gullible superstitious people from their money, it would be taught.

Cindy Claveau

OMG you are so burning up in that lake of fire he keeps babbling about!

It was 105 here today. Fuck the lake, everything was on fire except for me because I have air conditioning

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Sredni Eel

You remind me of Brussels Sprouts.

I tell people I cannot stand the things. They taste foul, and smell foul. I've tried preparing them in different ways, to no avail. They taste like farts smell.

But you. You love the Brussels Sprouts. You swear they're the best tasting thing on the planet. Obviously I haven't cooked them right, so I should prepare them the way you tell me I should, and then I will love them and be saved from my intense dislike of the things.

I keep telling you that no amount of flavoring, and no amount of preparing is going to make me turn to your side on this issue. They are, after all, still Brussels Sprouts.

I do not agree with the Brussels Sprout. I find them disgusting.

I respect that you love your Brussels Sprouts, but I am unsure why you keep badgering me to love them as much as you do when clearly they will always leave a bad taste in my mouth.

You say I can't have this delicious dessert until I've eaten those Brussels Sprouts. The thing is, that Dessert you keep pointing out hasn't been made. You've already proven that your taste in food is not my taste in food, so how do I know the Dessert you supposedly have is going to be what I want?

I can just see eating your damned Brussels Sprouts and taking that leap of faith that you're going to give me a nice Triple Chocolate brownie with vanilla bean ice cream that's been drizzled with Ghirardelli hot fudge. In reality, I think I'm going to be disappointed that you've prepared Frito pie for Dessert.

No thanks.

I'll stick to my own diet, thank you.

I don't need to be saved. I just want to live my life without you interfering and being all judgmental on me for what I believe.

What I believe is as long as you're a good person who doesn't deliberately set out to harm other people, then you will live a happy and productive life. When you die, you die. If you believe otherwise, that's great, but I don't believe what you believe, so stop telling me I'm going to some imaginary place once my brain shuts off and I shuffle off this mortal coil.

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eku Zhong

so you are saying there IS a bearded guy up in the sky watching everybody and listening to everybody....

well.. thats been disproven .. with all the sattelites out there and telescopes down here.. which see much further than any brick tower (that according to your bible .. really freaked god out.. cause he thought ppl were coming to invade his space.. so he smote them)

so i guess yes either something is true or it is false.

and since that is just one of the bibles many falsehoods that have been proven ... it just follows that we should be chipping a bit off Lot's wife .. to use as the proverbial pinch of salt with which to take in the rest of the scriptures

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eku Zhong

BLASPHEMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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