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Old 06-27-2012, 04:37 PM   #2526 (permalink)
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Which part of evolution you don't understand? The genes, the mutations? There are simple experiences to do that you can reproduce yourself in your garden you know?
I understand the CONCEPT of evolution, I just don't BELIEVE it. Lateral Adaptation is not Darwinian evolution. Those are mutations WITHIN the species. I've taken and Aced evolution classes in college. That doesn't make it the truth. Then I decided to research outside for my self and now know why it's a not true.

I believe that the Bible is referring to Evolution here:

Ro 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. {more: or, rather}
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First of all, I notice that you call Him MY Lord and not Your Lord.
Ok let's quote Him then. Do you believe these verses as well? Obviously, it IS loving to tell people what they need to hear, instead of lying to them, making them believe that they are going to be ok, when God's word says that they are going to go to hell, but you don't those verses, only the ones that you pick and choose.

Mt 23:13 ¶ But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
You aren't in the kingdom of heaven either, genius.

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Mt 23:14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
This one is about preachers who make long, pretentious prayers and take the coin of the widow. Kinda like most evangelical teachers I've come across.

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Mt 23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Lmao, this one is about YOU, Frodo. You compass land and sea and interwebs in order to make one convert, but end up with someone who is even more a child of hell than yourself. You have no Love of God, no "peace which passeth understanding" and it shows. Why should you try and convert one to your ways when they are miserable and unenlightened?

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Mt 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. {anise: Gr. dill}

Mt 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

Mt 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

Mt 23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
What does this have to do with Shiloh? These passages are about preachers who are all whitewashed on the outside (Jimmy swaggert, Oral Roberts) for the glory of men and for money. I'd say it applies much more to the teachers of the evangelical movement and you than to Shiloh.


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Nope, I'm saying that warning people and telling them the truth IS the loving thing to do. What you are doing is evil because you are giving them a false sense of security, but you don't care because you only believe the parts that you deem to be true, or should I say, that YOU want to believe. You want God to bow to your will instead of you bowing to His.
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You spoke earlier in the thread, I think on page 52, but I don't have time to go back and find it right now, words that clearly proved that you aren't doing this because you care about a single soul for God. You aren't doing it out of love, compassion, caring or unselfishly. You are doing it because you think it will score you points with Jesus, but I'm telling you that according to His very words, and not just the passage quoted but in various forms throught ALL of His teachings, he put love and caring FIRST AND FOREMOST. You need to let go of the God of the OT and get with the program. Jesus is the "way, the Truth and the light". His words are what you need to follow, and He was extremely exlicit. I find it hard to even believe that you are any kind of follower of Jesus. The absolute lack of understanding you display regarding His most important teachings is astounding..
Who are you to accuse Shiloh? And whose role is it to accuse? You claim the ability to rebuke Satan, and yet you do his work.

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Not true. I do care about lost souls.
But why? Certainly not because you love them.

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You've got that wrong. I said that if they want to choose to go to hell, that's their issue.
Nobody wants to go to hell, nor will they choose to do so. They just don't find your millenia old magical belief systems to be convincing.

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They have been warned, but I have also said several times that I hope that they will choose Jesus. I've also not allowed your friends here to walk all over me and defended myself, which is also a biblical concept. Unless you don't believe Jesus in this verse either:

Lu 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
That passage does not say what you want it to say. Here is the full passage:
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34 And he said, I tell thee, Peter, the cock shall not crow this day, before that thou shalt thrice deny that thou knowest me.
35 And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.
36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.
So yeah, you have no understanding, no realization and you most certainly don't "know Jesus". Not in anything more than a superficial sense. And that's sad.

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My sould is saved, but I didn't save that either, Jesus did. We can't save ourselves, it the work of the Lord. You are the one who doesn't believe, nor do you practice His word. Tell people the truth that they are going to go to hell if they don't accept Jesus.
Someone who is saved will be known by two things. Their works and their love. In other words, the love and wisdom of Christ should flow through your being, should be palpable. My grandmother is a person like that. Even though I don't believe in a literal Deity, but if anyone in this world "knows" Jesus, she does.

You are nothing like that, Frodo. Your words are hollow, and I can only assume that is a reflection of your inward life. You are a shell, a husk. There is nothing in you aside from your puffed up narrative and vain repititions. You've missed the essence of the teaching and it shows.
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It doesn't matter where evidence comes from? Then post some evidence from somewhere that doesn't have an interest in proving the beliefs they already hold right. I am not going to waste over an hour of my life watching a convicted criminal who even other creationists disown.
All of the sources provided by those here have an agenda as well. All scientists, teachers, ect. have an interest in proving their beliefs. So what you are asking is an impossibility.
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Do you REALLY believe that I'm referring to people disagreeing with me and asking for evidence when I refer to their behavior? Go back and read the comments that I have gotten from the beginning of this thread. How would you react if they talked to you that way? I welcome different viewpoints, I do not welcome rude, arrogant, vulgar, disrespectful ones.
Last I checked Jesus wasn't a whiny, rude little shit. Why don't you try and be more like him?
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All you have offered in this thread so far is that all other religions are wrong, other Christians who disagree with you are wrong and anyone who questions you is not only wrong but persecuting you. Have you ever considered other points of view, done any research yourself or do you rely purely on sources that confirm your beliefs?
They aren't persecuting me for disagreeing. They are being vulgar, rude, arrogant, ect. But it seems to be leving off, with just a bit here and there now.

I've done lots of research, but when I present the evidence here, it's written off out of fear that they may be proven wrong. They won't even look at it.
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Accoring to evolutionists, they evolved from birds, but even if that were true, which it isn't, that doesn't make them birds. They are giant lizards. They are dragons.
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Accoring to evolutionists, they evolved from birds, but even if that were true, which it isn't, that doesn't make them birds. They are giant lizards. They are dragons.
So the research, fossil based conclusions of actual scientists doesn't make them birds, but the bible makes the lizards and dragons? Wut? You aren't fair, you aren't just, you aren't smart. I don't care what your IQ test showed (mine's higher, btw), you're an idiot.
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Accoring to evolutionists, they evolved from birds, but even if that were true, which it isn't, that doesn't make them birds. They are giant lizards. They are dragons.

Once again you're proving your inability to understand things. Dinosaurs did not evolve from birds. It's the other way around, Sport.

Also, giant lizards are not dragons. Some dinosaurs may have been reptiles, yes, but they were not giant lizards. By your reasoning a crocodile is a lizard. This simply is not the case. They are a different species that are (distantly) related.
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Once again you're proving your inability to understand things. Dinosaurs did not evolve from birds. It's the other way around, Sport.

Also, giant lizards are not dragons. Some dinosaurs may have been reptiles, yes, but they were not giant lizards. By your reasoning a crocodile is a lizard. This simply is not the case. They are a different species that are (distantly) related.
Granted some dinosaur fossils were feathered and some dinosaurs flew. Last I checked, lizards didn't meet either of those qualifications.
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How frodo hasn't been kicked off the forum yet is enough for me to believe in god...

For him to have stayed this long is surely a miracle.....or the work of satan.
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EDIT: I was going to mention that if you're not sure where all the different phylum stack up in the taxonomy (or even if you don't know what a phylum is), this is a handy chart to keep at your elbow before you stick your foot in your mouth and claim that Evolution claims dinosaurs evolved from birds. They didn't. Birds are descended from the reptile tree just as dinosaurs did. Just a few million years later.



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What I did was started a private discussion in one thread and those who came here chose to click on it and engauge in it, I mean attack. So yes, you are like those kids.
Wait... so you're saying she deserved to be attacked? That's not very Christian of you.


OOOOohhh.... you think you're blameless. Riiiiiiight.


Got news for you buckaroo... if you had started this 'public discussion' with *ANY* respect for anyone's faith or philosophy other than your own, things might have gone very differently.

But we'll never know now. You showed up proselytizing your SPIRITUAL BLACKMAIL and we pounced on you, as we would any other internet pest or vermin.

Congratulations: You earned your 'martyred on the internet for my faith' merit badge. Goodie for you. Does that get you a larger cloud and a bigger harp in heaven?
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Show me some evidence that you or anyone here has provided that's produced by Christians. All of the evidence is produced by Evolutionists, Atheists and the like. Frankly, it doesn't matter as long as the evidence is genuine evidence.

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Accoring to evolutionists, they evolved from birds, but even if that were true, which it isn't, that doesn't make them birds. They are giant lizards. They are dragons.
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Also, frodo, here's a bearded dragon playing with a yo yo. Dragons do exist, and they love playing with shiny things. That's me converted, Hallelujah!

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I believe that the Bible is referring to Evolution here:

Ro 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. {more: or, rather}
Nah, Evolution is God's job. If he wasn't doing it he would be slacking like you plan to do in Heaven.
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Of course, by the time you read this... it'll probably be Monday and most of us will have lost interest in the thread.
For the record it's Wednesday and it seems to be going strong.
How would you know? You're still trying to catch up to posts from a WEEK AGO.
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More proof dragons exist. And they really hate pirates. Ninjas also hate pirates. Therefore dragons = ninjas.

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Moar dragon evidence. This one was found wandering a reptile expo in San Jose.



I really should have asked him if his dad was a dinosaur.
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A lot of stuff can be faked and still fool an awful lot of people into believing.

A case in point:
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No, I just know the truth. When you die, you will continue to exist. I am trying to warn people about what's going to happen to them if they don't accept Jesus.
Considering I doubt anyone here does not know about that 'warning' (regardless of what was decided about it) I am not quite sure what the point is.

So, if you are being altruistic in this mind if I ask you a question? Would you be civil if an asatru warned you what would happen if you did not accept Thor? It would not matter if you did not believe it, they do.
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...and I will refute that by saying, yes they are...
They aren't. Dinosaurs and lizards are different families of animals.
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