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Old 06-15-2012, 10:40 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I don't know how it works in the US, but I know back in the homeland, a prison sentence for child molestation of just about any length that isn't totally punitive, pretty much IS a death sentence.
They like to promote that idea on shows like Law and Order SVU, but no - I never observed pedophiles to have a harder time in prison than any other group. Some of them were even proud of what they were. We had to stop them from trying to form a chapter of NAMBLA in the prison.

The only inmates who seems to have an especially hard time are ones who are very young looking and/or are perceived as especially wimpy.
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Old 06-15-2012, 01:17 PM   #27 (permalink)
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They like to promote that idea on shows like Law and Order SVU, but no - I never observed pedophiles to have a harder time in prison than any other group. Some of them were even proud of what they were. We had to stop them from trying to form a chapter of NAMBLA in the prison.

The only inmates who seems to have an especially hard time are ones who are very young looking and/or are perceived as especially wimpy.
Ugh, Law & Order.

I love how Criminal Intent has a main character who specializes in Entrapment and Cohersion.

I love how they get around the need for a warrant by threatening to get one. "Sure cop, go get your warrant, then we'll talk."
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Old 06-15-2012, 01:33 PM   #28 (permalink)
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They like to promote that idea on shows like Law and Order SVU, but no - I never observed pedophiles to have a harder time in prison than any other group. Some of them were even proud of what they were. We had to stop them from trying to form a chapter of NAMBLA in the prison.

The only inmates who seems to have an especially hard time are ones who are very young looking and/or are perceived as especially wimpy.
Eventually I'm sure the trend will fade away as the REALLY hardcore old school criminals die off... In the few dealings I had to have with some of them back in Australia they actually came across as quite honorable in their own way - To be replaced with punks and thugs...
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Old 06-16-2012, 05:44 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I could see myself killing someone who was attempting to rape my daughter. I think the term is 'blind rage'. I removed the term 'murder' because 'murder' implies premeditation.
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"When emergency medical personnel arrived, Jesus Mora Flores' pants and underwear were down and the man's genitals were exposed," said Lavaca County Sheriff Micah Harmon, who was quoted in a press released issued by District Attorney Heather McMinn."

source:Victoria Advocate | Lavaca officials identify man beaten to death by father of molested girl
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Old 06-16-2012, 06:27 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I don't think he meant to kill him, he was in a rage, who wouldn't be. He knew this guy, they were at a BBQ together it wasn't "kill the strange pedo assaulting my child" either.

Let's hope Texas does what would be considered predictable for Texas and it would be the right thing for once. Let him go. Young father, too, only 23.

Thank christ the little girl screamed.
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Old 06-16-2012, 08:51 PM   #32 (permalink)
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"When emergency medical personnel arrived, Jesus Mora Flores' pants and underwear were down and the man's genitals were exposed," said Lavaca County Sheriff Micah Harmon, who was quoted in a press released issued by District Attorney Heather McMinn."

source:Victoria Advocate | Lavaca officials identify man beaten to death by father of molested girl
Well that settles it, for me anyway. Shows intent, imminent danger applies.
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As long as that's the ruling by a system of law and not the "I would have done the same" axiom.
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Grand jury: No indictment against father who killed daughter's alleged abuser - CNN.com
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Old 06-20-2012, 02:44 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Texas father won't face charges in death of daughter's attacker | Wichita Eagle

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The article says he caught the dude in the act of molesting his daughter. That is the crux of the matter IMHO. If he had just become aware that someone had messed with his daughter, and this was the weird guy down the street - that would be different. But, there was no room for reasonable doubt here.
Eyewitness to the scene mentioned that the perp's pants and underwear were pulled down to his ankles.

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If I saw that near any five year old kid, I'd see red. That sort of thing just builds up severe rageface.
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Eyewitness to the scene mentioned that the perp's pants and underwear were pulled down to his ankles.

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If I saw that near any five year old kid, I'd see red. That sort of thing just builds up severe rageface.
If I saw that I might not have been able to stop myself, either. I can see myself blacking out and picking up whatever was handy and using it on them
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