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Old 05-17-2012, 09:46 AM   #1 (permalink)
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US Minority Births Outnumber White Births for the First Time

Whites Account for Under Half of Births in U.S.
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Non-Hispanic whites accounted for 49.6 percent of all births in the 12-month period that ended last July, according to Census Bureau data made public on Thursday, while minorities — including Hispanics, blacks, Asians and those of mixed race — reached 50.4 percent, representing a majority for the first time in the country’s history.

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While over all, whites will remain a majority for some time, the fact that a younger generation is being born in which minorities are the majority has broad implications for the country’s economy, its political life and its identity. “This is an important tipping point,” said William H. Frey, the senior demographer at the Brookings Institution, describing the shift as a “transformation from a mostly white baby boomer culture to the more globalized multiethnic country that we are becoming.”
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Old 05-17-2012, 09:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I believe they mean "transforming back to the multiethnic country that we were before the waves of European immigration in the latter half of the 19th century". Or perhaps "transforming into the complex multiethnic country that Mexico has been since the 16th century".

Somehow I think we'll manage to get through it just fine.
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Yay! I get to be one of those fancy minority things I keep hearing about!
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Only 18 years until a mexican is POTUS!

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oh gawds the republicans must be shitting in their tighty whities hahahahhahahaa
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Only 18 years until a mexican is POTUS!

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It's official: Obama is now the first Mexican president!
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I think that a lot of the batshit crazy we've been seeing from the Republicans over the last few years has been in response to this. They can't stand the fact that things are changing, and they can't accept the fact that they can't stop it.

The war on women and abortion insanity - it's meant to force white women to have more children, and thereby put whites back into the majority.
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The racists among Whites are terrified. I think they are scared that they will be treated they same way they have treated others. They see themselves losing control of the country. I agree that it's a big reason for all the push to turn the clock back to a so called "better" time. They think it was better because people like them had control of the country and they have been seeing that control beginning to slip through their fingers-so they are tightening their grip.
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Old 05-17-2012, 11:27 AM   #11 (permalink)
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The racists among Whites are terrified.
No more so than the racists among blacks are terrified of the massive increase of our local Hispanic population over the past few years. I don't understand why people say "Non-Hispanic whites." Does anyone know what that means compared to, what, "Hispanic whites?"

This is an important tipping point? This has broad implications for the country’s economy? Because people aren't people? Because Americans aren't American? How does the author believe these changes will manifest I wonder.
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I think that a lot of the batshit crazy we've been seeing from the Republicans over the last few years has been in response to this. They can't stand the fact that things are changing, and they can't accept the fact that they can't stop it.

The war on women and abortion insanity - it's meant to force white women to have more children, and thereby put whites back into the majority.
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How much do you want to bet when we become the Majority we will still be called "the visible minority" by a lot of people.

it is a similar situation in canada where they say both Vancouver and Toronto will be majority asian by 2030....

I just wish one day they would just say the majority of people are "Canadian" or "American" and screw all this us and them attitude!
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The open-minded and colour blind will always be a minority...
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No more so than the racists among blacks are terrified of the massive increase of our local Hispanic population over the past few years. I don't understand why people say "Non-Hispanic whites." Does anyone know what that means compared to, what, "Hispanic whites?"

This is an important tipping point? This has broad implications for the country’s economy? Because people aren't people? Because Americans aren't American? How does the author believe these changes will manifest I wonder.

My half sister's mom is a hispanic white - blonde hair [well, so I've been told], blue eyes - ancestors pure spanish bloodlines, and more arrogant than any teapartier. That's about all I think of when I hear the term - but I think its used to refer to most hispanic people unless they are obviously mostly of other stock [like, oh, native americans].

And you know what, maybe this would be a good thing - I think the world is a boring place when we don't have a wonderful mix of cultures in the pot. And honestly? What it really means is no one would be in the majority.
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No more so than the racists among blacks are terrified of the massive increase of our local Hispanic population over the past few years. I don't understand why people say "Non-Hispanic whites." Does anyone know what that means compared to, what, "Hispanic whites?"
I think they may be referring to the fact that Whites of Hispanic origin and Blacks of Hispanic origin are choices on the census. I find this a bit bigoted in and of itself, because Hispanic itself is an ethnicity, not a race. If Hispanics are considered either White or Black I don't think they really should need the ethnicity. *shrugs*
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My half sister's mom is a hispanic white - blonde hair [well, so I've been told], blue eyes - ancestors pure spanish bloodlines, and more arrogant than any teapartier. That's about all I think of when I hear the term - but I think its used to refer to most hispanic people unless they are obviously mostly of other stock [like, oh, native americans].

And you know what, maybe this would be a good thing - I think the world is a boring place when we don't have a wonderful mix of cultures in the pot. And honestly? What it really means is no one would be in the majority.
Reportedly (I have no memory of her) my biological father's sister was Spanish, Cuban and Seminole, but had blond hair and blue eyes. They called her "Blanca" because of it.
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It might be more interesting to ask about ethnicity rather than about race.....and let people check all that apply.
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I believe that removing all race and ethnic qualifiers from all government forms is an important tipping point that has broad implications for the country’s economy and well being.
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I'll be more than willing to say that race doesn't matter when race stops mattering. When a Black man is likely to receive the same sentence for the same crime as a White man, when Black children graduate high school and college at the same rate as White children. When being pulled over for DWB no longer happens and when Black people who are stopped by police no longer have to fear being shot for no reason. When a Black Harvard professor can ask a police officer to leave his house without getting arrested. When Hispanic American citizens and legal permanent residents don't have to fear being thrown into jail and kicked out of their own country if they don't carry their drivers' licenses and birth certificates at all times. When police are no longer give laws directing them to stop any "foreign looking" drivers in border states. When ICE no longer operates internment camps where deportees are kept like prisoners while awaiting deportation that can take years.

When that happens, I'll be more than ready to act like racial classes no longer matter. Until then, all that ignoring those classes does is allow racists to pretend like there isn't a racism problem.
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I think plantation owners were out numbered on plantations and they still kept power. You can be outnumbered and still maintain power, and you do not even have to resort to entirely oppressive methods to maintain that power. One reason is not all minorities have the same agenda (I know that comes as a tremendous shock to some here), so just because someone checks a certain box, doesn't mean the identify with the box or fit into it. Secondly there are some issues in minority communities that cannot be solved in a generation or two. Lastly, as long as a small minority control the money and the power nothing changes. Last year it seems like the white people at the bottom finally realized they were being screwed over by the white people at the top, something the rest of us knew a long time ago.

Even with all of the affirmative action, programs and everything else, there are few minorities in positions of power, even less when you do not count white women as minorities.

All little facts like this do is make people circle the wagons tighter.
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I believe that removing all race and ethnic qualifiers from all government forms is an important tipping point that has broad implications for the country’s economy and well being.
Well, it would make it more difficult to prove that redrawn voter districts and new voting laws that are designed to suppress minorities' voting rights are in fact suppressing minorities' votng rights. Whether you feel that this is a good thing or not probably depends on your view of the 15th amendment.
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I just wish one day they would just say the majority of people are "Canadian" or "American" and screw all this us and them attitude!
Eventually we will all be some shade of brown. Of course, I'm sure we will still pick about "which shade of brown".
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You could just as easily say it's the secret of Mormonism or the secret of the Old Order Mennonites. I know an Old Order Mennonite woman who just gave birth to her 12th child.

I tried to put "Flying Purple People Eater" as my race on the census, but it wouldn't fit in the box. So, I put, "human."

When I did phone surveys some of our surveys asked, "What race or ethnicity do you consider yourself.." I got some entertaining answers to that besides the serious ones.
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