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Baltha · 05-10-2012, 07:13 PM

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"He can't look like that. That's wrong. Just look at him!" Romney told Matthew Friedemann, a close Romney friend and one of five classmates who recalled the incident for The Post. A few days later, Romney led a group of boys out of his dorm room at Cranbrook School and into Lauber's, where the group tackled him and held him down. Romney cut his hair with scissors as a teary-eyed Lauber screamed for help.

The Associated Press: Romney denies targeting classmates for being gay

Richie Waves · 05-10-2012, 07:17 PM

Weird, the story where he did apologise that we've been talking about all day on another forum has evaporated...

Mitt the twit is in the sh1t for homophobic fit - boards.ie

Teeny Leviathan · 05-10-2012, 07:27 PM

Of course he doesn't "remember" the incident, much in the same way he doesn't remember all the moderate sounding statements he has made over the years.

Amity Slade · 05-10-2012, 07:32 PM

I like the way Romney downplays assault and battery as "hijinks and pranks" that "may have gone too far."

Ann Otoole · 05-10-2012, 07:35 PM

yet another religious asshole bully.

Eris · 05-10-2012, 08:17 PM

Damn, Obama plays fucking hardball sometimes. I wish he'd go gangsta on the GOP like this sometimes outside an election.

Well played, Mr. President, well played.

**Pie Psaltery** · 05-10-2012, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mittens

Romney moved quickly to counter any suggestion he had targeted students because they were gay.
"That was the furthest thing from our minds back in the 1960s, so that was not the case," he said, adding that the students involved "didn't come out of the closet until years later.""That was the furthest thing from our minds back in the 1960s, so that was not the case," he said, adding that the students involved "didn't come out of the closet until years later."

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...because they were terrified of being harassed and bullied even MORE by "pranksters" like you, Mittens. They were frightened someone might do something far worse to them then hold them down screaming while cutting their hair off if they were ever found out to be truly homosexual instead of simply perceived as "just wrong".

You taught them to feel that way Mittz.

Jerk-off

Richie Waves · 05-10-2012, 08:43 PM

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Mitt Romney returned from a three-week spring break in 1965 to resume his studies as a high school senior at the prestigious Cranbrook School. Back on the handsome campus, studded with Tudor brick buildings and manicured fields, he spotted something he thought did not belong at a school where the boys wore ties and carried briefcases. John Lauber, a soft-spoken new student one year behind Romney, was perpetually teased for his nonconformity and presumed homosexuality. Now he was walking around the all-boys school with bleached-blond hair that draped over one eye, and Romney wasn’t having it

quote from deleted article.

Teeny Leviathan · 05-10-2012, 08:48 PM

Interesting reading:

Mitt Romney's prep school classmates recall pranks, but also troubling incidents - The Washington Post

**Joshua Nightshade** · 05-10-2012, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Richie Waves

quote from deleted article.

The article isn't deleted, it's the same WP article Teeny linked.

The Romney campaign is reportedly begging previous students to come forward and disavow these events. Unfortunately, it's had the opposite result:

ABC News: HS Friend Accuses Romney Of ‘Lying’ Over Bullying Incident | Mediaite

**Joshua Nightshade** · 05-10-2012, 11:35 PM

Oh, the WP article also mentions that the guy died in 2004, and:

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Sometime in the mid-1990s, David Seed noticed a familiar face at the end of a bar at Chicago O’Hare International Airport.

“Hey, you’re John Lauber,” Seed recalled saying at the start of a brief conversation. Seed, also among those who witnessed the Romney-led incident, had gone on to a career as a teacher and principal. Now he had something to get off his chest.

“I’m sorry that I didn’t do more to help in the situation,” he said.

Lauber paused, then responded, “It was horrible.” He went on to explain how frightened he was during the incident, and acknowledged to Seed, “It’s something I have thought about a lot since then.”

**Void** · 05-11-2012, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Teeny Leviathan

Of course he doesn't "remember" the incident, much in the same way he doesn't remember all the moderate sounding statements he has made over the years.

it'd almost be funny if he could do reagans voice and say "well, I don't know..."

detrius · 05-11-2012, 12:39 AM

Meh, how old was Romney back then? I don't particularly care about the misdoings of a teenager, all kids start out as little assholes who treat other humans as little more than food dispensers, but they'll eventually grow out of it (at least most do, it's called "reaching adulthood"). What I care about is how Romney is now trying to use his pubescent antics to give himself a less wooden image, showing that he's still the same jerk he was 50 years ago.

“There’s a wild and crazy man inside of there just waiting to come out.” -- Ann Romney

detrius · 05-11-2012, 12:49 AM

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One venerable English teacher, Carl G. Wonnberger, nicknamed “the Bat” for his diminished eyesight, was known to walk into the trophy case and apologize, step into wastepaper baskets and stare blindly as students slipped out the back of the room to smoke by the open windows. Once, several students remembered the time pranksters propped up the back axle of Wonnberger’s Volkswagen Beetle with two-by-fours and watched, laughing from the windows, as the unwitting teacher slammed the gas pedal with his wheels spinning in the air.

As an underclassman, Romney accompanied Wonnberger and Pierce Getsinger, another student, from the second floor of the main academic building to the library to retrieve a book the two boys needed. According to Getsinger, Romney opened a first set of doors for Wonnberger, but then at the next set, with other students around, he swept his hand forward, bidding the teacher into a closed door. Wonnberger walked right into it and Getsinger said Romney giggled hysterically as the teacher shrugged it off as another of life’s indignities.

Ann Otoole · 05-11-2012, 01:32 AM

piece of shit is not qualified to step foot on the white house grounds.

Taco Rubio · 05-11-2012, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ann Otoole

piece of shit is not qualified to step foot on the white house grounds.

I assume for no reason you're talking about me, and want to make clear that I agree with you.

Baltha · 05-11-2012, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by detrius

Meh, how old was Romney back then? I don't particularly care about the misdoings of a teenager, all kids start out as little assholes who treat other humans as little more than food dispensers, but they'll eventually grow out of it (at least most do, it's called "reaching adulthood"). What I care about is how Romney is now trying to use his pubescent antics to give himself a less wooden image, showing that he's still the same jerk he was 50 years ago.

“There’s a wild and crazy man inside of there just waiting to come out.” -- Ann Romney

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As Lauber, his eyes filling with tears, screamed for help, Romney repeatedly clipped his hair with a pair of scissors.

According to the WP article he was a high school senior so that makes him at least 17. At that age, I had been out of school and working full time for a year to help support my family. I was treated as an adult who knew the difference between right and wrong and who had known bullying was evil for years. This wasn't some kid growing up, this was a highly privileged young man making another young man weep in fear during a planned physical assault because he was perceived as being different.

MissKillian Barbosa · 05-11-2012, 07:59 AM

Alas, I think this incident would do more to inspire and delight his core followers.

**Aliselia Aeon** · 05-11-2012, 08:15 AM

Ok...I dislike the man intensely. I also do NOT want him in office (any office, really), but does something cruel that he did when he was a teenager really have anything to do with anything now-what, 50 years later? Kids do stupid and sometimes cruel shit. Sometimes boys are homophobic for a while and grow out of it when they have had more experience, exposure to different people and time to think about it They sometimes (not always) grow up and change over the years. Harassment and bullying is terrible, but it isn't murder or rape, ffs. A lot of kids were bullies-but grew up to be completely different people.

By all means, if he has the same tendencies NOW it should be a (another) big reason to keep him from getting in office, but to accuse him on the basis something he did when he was a kid doesn't set well with me.

I've also been seeing things tweeted about Obama as a kid too-doing racist shit. Both sides are bringing up and making up things that are not necessary and even lies.

**Joshua Nightshade** · 05-11-2012, 08:20 AM

The point is that his campaign has been explicitly pointing to his "high school pranks" and going "Hey, see? Look! He's not a robot in the shape of a human being at all!"

They put the focus on his actions fifty years ago in an attempt to humanise him. Unfortunately for his campaign, that effort turned up much worse activity than simple fucking around.

A number of people have come forward and expressed shame and disappointment in themselves because of this.

In Further Remarks, Romney Classmate Calls Anti-Gay Scissors Attack an Unforgettable 'Haunting Memory': VIDEO| News | Towleroad

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“It’s a haunting memory. I think it was for everybody that spoke up about it … because when you see somebody who is simply different taken down that way and is terrified and you see that look in their eye you never forget it. And that was what we all walked away with. I saw it with my own eyes...It was a hack job … clumps of hair taken off."

And obviously, this sort of thing informs his present political behaviour too:

US Politics | AMERICAblog News: Romney, who bullied a gay kid in prep school, abolished anti-bullying commission as governor

Melodie Darwin · 05-11-2012, 08:27 AM

Even if he was just a 17 year old jerk, his apology shows he still doesn't get it. Somebody who finally grasped empathy, or who actually didn't do it wouldn't flounder while trying to get his friends to vouch for him.

His worldview still hasn't grown beyond his behavior then. That won't work well on the world stage when he has to be able play nice with different people.

An interesting read
Can a guy like Mitt Romney ever understand what its like to be the kid being held down?

**Eunoli Rain** · 05-11-2012, 08:29 AM

I'm not sure why anyone is letting them replace the words "homophobic assault" with "highschool pranks". I've known plenty of pranksters in my time, and I don't recall any of them doing it with the intent to terrorize in a way that wasn't fun for the victim in some way.

That's the difference between prank and assault and prank and vandalism.

Ann Otoole · 05-11-2012, 08:31 AM

It was felony assault and battery with a weapon. Body parts were cut off.

Mitt Romney is a violent offender.

Baltha · 05-11-2012, 08:34 AM

Romney’s former classmate: ‘You have to take it into account’ – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

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Maxwell confirmed the story, first reported in the Washington Post. However, he insisted the incident was far worse than a high school prank.

"I'm a lawyer. I know what an assault is. This kid was scared. He was terrified. That's an assault," Maxwell said.

The presumed GOP candidate for the highest office in the country rounded up a gang and attacked another person with a pair of scissors. He did this at an age where "youthful prank" just doesn't hold any water for me.

**Aliselia Aeon** · 05-11-2012, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua Nightshade

The point is that his campaign has been explicitly pointing to his "high school pranks" and going "Hey, see? Look! He's not a robot in the shape of a human being at all!"

They put the focus on his actions fifty years ago in an attempt to humanise him. Unfortunately for his campaign, that effort turned up much worse activity than simple fucking around.

A number of people have come forward and expressed shame and disappointment in themselves because of this.

In Further Remarks, Romney Classmate Calls Anti-Gay Scissors Attack an Unforgettable 'Haunting Memory': VIDEO| News | Towleroad

And obviously, this sort of thing informs his present political behaviour too:

US Politics | AMERICAblog News: Romney, who bullied a gay kid in prep school, abolished anti-bullying commission as governor

Yup. What he has done as an adult, I am VERY concerned with. And yes, it was more than just a prank. I am not at all discounting the terror the victim felt. I don't approve in any way of what he did as a kid. A lot of people have been terrorised by bullies (and I mean beaten) and the bully grew up to be ashamed of what they did. People can change when they grow up. He appears to not be truly ashamed of it, though-and THAT is what concerns me: what he feels and does as an adult.

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detrius Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 7,062 My Mood:	Meh, how old was Romney back then? I don't particularly care about the misdoings of a teenager, all kids start out as little assholes who treat other humans as little more than food dispensers, but they'll eventually grow out of it (at least most do, it's called "reaching adulthood"). What I care about is how Romney is now trying to use his pubescent antics to give himself a less wooden image, showing that he's still the same jerk he was 50 years ago. “There’s a wild and crazy man inside of there just waiting to come out.” -- Ann Romney __________________ "V Pravde net izvestiy, v Izvestiyakh net pravdy." Last edited by detrius; 05-11-2012 at 01:14 AM.

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MissKillian Barbosa Slackers unite!! Later.. Silently Judging You Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In a castle on a cloud. Posts: 3,298 My Mood: SL Join Date: 2/2007 Blog Entries: 2	Alas, I think this incident would do more to inspire and delight his core followers. __________________ Silly Ol' Killy Dilly

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Aliselia Aeon Senior Member *SLU Supporter* Stolen Child Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here Posts: 12,630 SL Join Date: October 27, 2007 Client: at the moment, Nirans Blog Entries: 3	Ok...I dislike the man intensely. I also do NOT want him in office (any office, really), but does something cruel that he did when he was a teenager really have anything to do with anything now-what, 50 years later? Kids do stupid and sometimes cruel shit. Sometimes boys are homophobic for a while and grow out of it when they have had more experience, exposure to different people and time to think about it They sometimes (not always) grow up and change over the years. Harassment and bullying is terrible, but it isn't murder or rape, ffs. A lot of kids were bullies-but grew up to be completely different people. By all means, if he has the same tendencies NOW it should be a (another) big reason to keep him from getting in office, but to accuse him on the basis something he did when he was a kid doesn't set well with me. I've also been seeing things tweeted about Obama as a kid too-doing racist shit. Both sides are bringing up and making up things that are not necessary and even lies. __________________ "Push 100cc of Social Skills, stat!" ~Casey Pelous

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Melodie Darwin Michissippian Day Dreamin' Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Under the Bridge Posts: 764 My Mood: SL Join Date: January 7, 2008	Even if he was just a 17 year old jerk, his apology shows he still doesn't get it. Somebody who finally grasped empathy, or who actually didn't do it wouldn't flounder while trying to get his friends to vouch for him. His worldview still hasn't grown beyond his behavior then. That won't work well on the world stage when he has to be able play nice with different people. An interesting read Can a guy like Mitt Romney ever understand what its like to be the kid being held down? __________________

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05-10-2012, 07:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
Richie Waves Banned "jon" he does it!! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Offaly, Republic of Ireland Posts: 16,827 My Mood: SL Join Date: 27/06/2005 Client: Phoenix & imprudence	Weird, the story where he did apologise that we've been talking about all day on another forum has evaporated... Mitt the twit is in the sh1t for homophobic fit - boards.ie

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Teeny Leviathan 10 F***n' Years! Impertinent, ill-nurtured, hedge-pig* Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,912 SL Join Date: 05/20/2003	Of course he doesn't "remember" the incident, much in the same way he doesn't remember all the moderate sounding statements he has made over the years.

05-10-2012, 07:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
Amity Slade Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,045 Scrabble Blast Champion!	I like the way Romney downplays assault and battery as "hijinks and pranks" that "may have gone too far."

05-10-2012, 07:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
Ann Otoole Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 16,374	yet another religious asshole bully.

05-10-2012, 08:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
Eris Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,792	Damn, Obama plays fucking hardball sometimes. I wish he'd go gangsta on the GOP like this sometimes outside an election. Well played, Mr. President, well played.

05-10-2012, 08:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
Teeny Leviathan 10 F***n' Years! Impertinent, ill-nurtured, hedge-pig* Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,912 SL Join Date: 05/20/2003	Interesting reading: Mitt Romney's prep school classmates recall pranks, but also troubling incidents - The Washington Post

05-11-2012, 01:32 AM	#15 (permalink)
Ann Otoole Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 16,374	piece of shit is not qualified to step foot on the white house grounds.

05-11-2012, 08:29 AM	#22 (permalink)
Eunoli Rain Senior Member *SLU Supporter* Not eating peas Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Shady Falls Posts: 2,074	I'm not sure why anyone is letting them replace the words "homophobic assault" with "highschool pranks". I've known plenty of pranksters in my time, and I don't recall any of them doing it with the intent to terrorize in a way that wasn't fun for the victim in some way. That's the difference between prank and assault and prank and vandalism.

05-11-2012, 08:31 AM	#23 (permalink)
Ann Otoole Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 16,374	It was felony assault and battery with a weapon. Body parts were cut off. Mitt Romney is a violent offender.

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