Argent Stonecutter

That was kind of an excuse, not a cause.

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Sid Nagy

I would have bought that ice cream, that I denied myself this afternoon.

LoriClaremont

Shh, you weren't supposed to notice

detrius

I'd stop time travel from becoming an overused plot device.

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Void

:: goes back after Detrius and makes time travel the ONLY plot device ::

... what? ad least that way we'd have a solid basis in theoretical temporal mechanics, and not have to suffer through cheeseball stuff that's not consistent.

I'd also go back an make sure that the newly formed American government succeeded in it's revolution.... oh looks I already did that... good, the europeen re-expansion was horrible.

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Soen Eber

The arch duke wasn't even that well liked. He married a commoner and had atrocious social skills.

Germany (or at least the PrussianGerman general staff) had been trolling for a big war since shortly after 1905, and the only reason it took until 1914 was Wilhelm's inconsistent dithering. One time the British even bought him off by offering him a British marine sergeant major dress uniform (on the advice of Prince George to her majesty Queen Victoria) to play dress up in. Both Wilhelm and Tsar Alexander loved dressing up in other country's uniforms, they loved the braid.

Yes, folks, there is a LOT of black comedy gold at the turn of the 20th century.

Deson Bowenford

Sorry couldn't resit. I instantly thought of this little video.

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Bard Jameson

Never saw that one, but man, Schoolhouse Rock was not only teachable, but psychedelicly fun as well. Introducing youngsters to alternate base number systems would be damn near heresy today.

And the idea inculcated that it all began because of the number of our digits is damn near revolutionary. It introduces the idea that systems are not arbitrary, per se, but are somewhat based on what we are given as the basis of our biology.

If we had been born with a fist and a single digit, our earliest mathematical systems would have been binary.

i.e. - biology precedes logic.

Pardon me, my weak mind is blown by a cartoon.

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Deson Bowenford

@Bard Jameson,
Yeah it's a fun little idea that a lot of our mathematical basis may come from biology. I like it and it makes a lot of sense. Especially if you consider alien life forms. Who says they all must use base 10 math? As far as the binary? Hmm, perhaps a single tentacle would work in that regard. Here's a fun thought. Would a world of Disney style people use base 8 mathematics? (3 fingers and a thumb)

Loved schoolhouse rock incidentally myself as well. (chuckle)

Kara Spengler

I thought that a numerical system being related to your number of digits was axiomatic?

There are civilisations that have not used base 10 but they are the exception. For example the Babylonians used base 60 (ow!) .... but since it is a multiplier of 10 it is not as hard to grasp as, oh, base 13 math. If we had 8 fingers that would have been WONDERFUL though!

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Darkley

I would go back to 1993, and pork Paul H when I had the chance

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Kara Spengler

Okay, true, but lacking a better theory it fits until someone has a better one. Especially since people often count with their fingers.

Adeon Writer

How exactly would 12 fingers/base 12 numbering system prevented religion? The only religious thing with 10 I can think of is the ten commandments in Christianity, and we's just have 2 extra commandments in that case.

Kara Spengler

I think the comment was that it would be heresy? It would be using *gasp* science rather than seeing something as a divine mandate.

Kokoro Fasching

Because religion is very binary - believe / not believe. It fits easily into base 10, 1/0, and hardwired the human brains for binary conditioning.

Where as a base 12 system would have prevented the hardwiring, and it would be more believe / sure dude, pass the bowl - 1 / 2. It would have also science of what tastes the colors represent, therefor making primitive humans less afraid of the unknown, which also helped religion to come about.

Adeon Writer

I don't think you understand. 10 fits to 1/0 because 10 is base 10 for 10.

If we had a base 12 system, 12 would be written "10" and we'd still be saying we use "a base-10 numbering system"

The actual amount of things that represent our 10 is the only thing that is arbitrary, the 10 to 1/0 correlation is universal.

Frau Yardley

I'd change the year I was born in, the 1970s and everything that followed were not my cup of tea.

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Nibb Tardis

The base-12 system has quite a few advantages over base-10. 12 can be divided by 2, 3, 4, and 6, whereas 10 can only be divided by 2 and 5. That would have a whole lot of repercussions in the use of decimals.

Casey Pelous

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Adeon Writer

But a base 8 system would make the powers of 2 easy to write and understand, we might have even reached the silicon age sooner since it is a core concept in computing.

Also with 8 notes to the octave, we might have started writing down music sooner and millennia of music wouldn't be lost to us.

Though pianos would be harder to play.

Casey Pelous

12. 12 tones in the chromatic scale.

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eighthdwarf Checchinato

I would go back to the times when humans just were settling, and slap reason into the persons who said first »"this piece of land is not "ours" anymore, but "mine" only« or »this cattle is not "ours" anymore but "mine" only«, and would go around preaching that whatever Nature gives us should never be seen as property but rather as things to share freely - coz I believe that neither slave society, nor feudalism, nor capitalism would ever have happened if the means of production had always stayed in communal/tribal usage (or communal/tribal property if man-made).

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I derped. But that 12 is also arbitrary! Although it's so ingrained in our brains from birth that any other (evenly spaced, tempered) scale will sound unpleasant.

Siggy

It was also racist... ever notice the only lead african american character I ever saw was THE VERB.... that's right.. the motherfucker that has to do all the work

*shakes head*

racist fucks.

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