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Casey Pelous · 04-10-2012, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ishina

Yeah, it's Jackson Pollock.

And thus is the depth of my formal art education revealed to all.

Menchor Barbosa · 04-10-2012, 08:15 PM

Rumor has it that Lenin lived down the street from the DaDaists in Switzerland and after seeing what they were doing and calling the modern art, he determined that modern art would not be part of the people's revolutionary state.

Imnotgoing Sideways · 04-10-2012, 08:38 PM

Charles Manson played Beatles records backwards. (^_^)

**Sredni Eel** · 04-10-2012, 11:40 PM

Yeah, but Hitler wanted to be an architect. I hear he was a hell of a painter.

Oops, just Godwinned an art thread. Sorry about that.

Mr Twine · 04-10-2012, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asher Bertrand

Look

I'm writing

Now

Writing

Is a form of
Expression

This writing?

Not art.

Surely, someone would be thrilled to put this in a poetry collection.

Dancien Graves · 04-10-2012, 11:57 PM

Middle Stalls in Malls across America weep for his passing. Now where will my Mother get her schmeltzy Christmas Cards?

**Soen Eber** · 04-11-2012, 12:33 AM

Stanley Kubrick made a 1x4x9 black rectangle both a piece of art and a spiritual icon.

Maybe its not the object, but how the artist uses it.

Penny Patton · 04-11-2012, 12:49 AM

I prefer Scott McCloud's take.

Remember, the word "art" is neutral. It doesn't signify the work being "special", nor even particularly "good". Art doesn't need to have any meaning to it, it doesn't need to impart any special message.

Twisted Pharaoh · 04-11-2012, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Casey Pelous

No, thanks. It doesn't match my sofa.

Duchamp is also famous for his bicycle wheel.

Quote:

Of his own readymades, Duchamp spoke of how using prefabricated objects freed him from the ‘trap’ of developing a particular style or taste.

Marcel Duchamp: 1887-1968

ETA:

Quote:

Later he denied that its creation was purposeful, though it has come to be known as the first of his readymades. "I enjoyed looking at it," he said. "Just as I enjoy looking at the flames dancing in the fireplace." It was not until he began making readymades a few years later in New York that he decided Bicycle Wheel was a readymade.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_Wheel

pixieplumb · 04-11-2012, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Twisted Pharaoh

Duchamp is also famous for his bicycle wheel.

Marcel Duchamp: 1887-1968

Quote:
Of his own readymades, Duchamp spoke of how using prefabricated objects freed him from the ‘trap’ of developing a particular style or taste.
Marcel Duchamp: 1887-1968

Not to mention all that tedious brush washing and canvas stretching, the lazy bugger. (jk, actually really like some of his stuff)

Twisted Pharaoh · 04-11-2012, 03:26 AM

John Cage's 4'33" - YouTube

It's all about conviction^^

**Brenda Archer** · 04-11-2012, 04:15 AM

Kincade's kitschy art, his marketing machine, and his aggressive and assholish business practices are a perfect mirror of much of today's American culture.

It's unintentional art, but it's not what we want to see. It's unflattering.

Innula Zenovka · 04-11-2012, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Menchor Barbosa

Rumor has it that Lenin lived down the street from the DaDaists in Switzerland and after seeing what they were doing and calling the modern art, he determined that modern art would not be part of the people's revolutionary state.

One of my favourite plays, Travesties by Tom Stoppard, turns on the coincidence that Lenin, Tristan Tzara and James Joyce were all living in Zurich in 1917; Stoppard has them all roped into a production of The Importance of Being Earnest.

Sample dialogue between Henry Carr, a British diplomat, and his manservant Bennet:

Quote:

Carr: Is there anything of interest?
Bennett: There is a revolution in Russia, sir.
Carr: Really? What sort of revolution?
Bennett: A social revolution, sir.
Carr: A social revolution? Unaccompanied women smoking at the Opera, that sort of thing? . . .
Bennett: Not precisely that, sir. It is more in the nature of a revolution of classes contraposed by the fissiparous disequilibrium of Russian society
Carr: What do you mean, classes?
Bennett: Masters and servants. As it were. Sir.
Carr: Oh. Masters and servants. Classes.
Bennett: (expressionless as always): There have been scenes of violence.
Carr: I see. Well, I’m not in the least bit surprised, Bennett. I don’t wish to appear wise after the event, but anyone with half an acquaintance with Russian society could see that the day was not far off before the exploited class, disillusioned by the neglect of its interests, alarmed by the falling value of the rouble, and above all goaded beyond endurance by the insolent rapacity of its servants, should turn upon those butlers, footmen, cooks, valets . . .

Ariane · 04-11-2012, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sredni Eel

Yeah, but Hitler wanted to be an architect. I hear he was a hell of a painter.

Oops, just Godwinned an art thread. Sorry about that.

Godwin away

Real History and Adolf Hitler, the Artist

He was rejected from art school. Imagine how different the world would be had he been accepted.

Morgoth · 04-11-2012, 08:50 AM

When people say Hitler was a terrible painter, I am faced with the terrible truth that he was a better painter than I likely will ever be, and I also at one point wanted to go to art college.

AND I ANGST FOREVER.

FOR I AM WORSE THAN HITLER..

at art..

Cocoanut Koala · 04-13-2012, 11:10 AM

Actually, some of his art found way into my life.

My grandparents' house was quite a bit like the houses he depicted - though his pics were 100x my grandparents' house. Still, close enough to it to capture the house and its whole vibe.

So I bought a scrapbook with his art on it, and a number of scrapbook pages to go into it, for a scrapbook devoted entirely to my grandparents' house.

The idea came about because I have an absolutely idyllic picture of the house in snow, and several others which are pretty idyllic, and so much like his paintings. Just a fraction of the idyllic-ness in his paintings, of course, but a person seeing the pics of the house would understand why I would place them in a Kincaid scrapbook environment

So far, I've collected and collated all those pictures, but I haven't made the scrapbook yet.

I have room for all kinds of art in my life. While I wouldn't plaster my walls with his art, he was one of a kind, with a vision, and I appreciated the work . . . mostly for other people.

Ann Otoole · 04-13-2012, 11:44 AM

dude drank himself to death because people were mean and bullied him.

detrius · 05-08-2012, 05:29 PM

Follow-up:

Quote:

Christian painter Thomas Kinkade died of a drug and alcohol overdose, according to an autopsy report released Monday (May 7).

Kinkade’s April 6 death was ruled accidental by the Santa Clara County Coroner’s office, which found high levels of alcohol and the anti-anxiety medication Diazepam in his body, according to Reuters.

[...]

Autopsy: Christian painter Thomas Kinkade died of accidental overdose - The Washington Post

Errafel Eccleston · 05-08-2012, 05:49 PM

He lit himself more than his paintings

**Aliselia Aeon** · 05-08-2012, 08:46 PM

The alcohol and Diazepam mix has killed quit ea few people.

04-10-2012, 08:15 PM	#127 (permalink)
Menchor Barbosa I like Mainland Mostly Harmless Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mainland Posts: 1,626 My Mood: SL Join Date: March 4, 2007 Client: Firestorm	Rumor has it that Lenin lived down the street from the DaDaists in Switzerland and after seeing what they were doing and calling the modern art, he determined that modern art would not be part of the people's revolutionary state. __________________ Baroness Menchor, the Deadly, of the Great Army of the Invincible Infidel, Whose Great Swarms of Evil and Horror Laid Waste to the Souls of a Million True Believers and Left Their Souls Rotting in the Summer Sun for the Buzzards to to Ravish as Their Souls Sunk to the Depths of Torment and Hopelessness, Abandoned by Their Gods. Youth and strength can almost always be overcome by old age and treachery Last edited by Menchor Barbosa; 04-10-2012 at 08:15 PM. Reason: typo

04-10-2012, 08:38 PM	#128 (permalink)
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04-11-2012, 12:49 AM	#133 (permalink)
Penny Patton Moo. Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Here and there. Kinda inbetween places now. Posts: 3,711 My Mood: SL Join Date: 11/30/2005 Business: Happy Bivouac/Milk&Cream	I prefer Scott McCloud's take. Remember, the word "art" is neutral. It doesn't signify the work being "special", nor even particularly "good". Art doesn't need to have any meaning to it, it doesn't need to impart any special message. __________________ The Digital Pasture - SL from a cow's point of view. When the cow is also a designer.

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Aliselia Aeon Senior Member *SLU Supporter* Stolen Child Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here Posts: 12,522 My Mood: SL Join Date: October 27, 2007 Client: at the moment, Nirans Blog Entries: 3	The alcohol and Diazepam mix has killed quit ea few people. __________________ "Push 100cc of Social Skills, stat!" ~Casey Pelous

04-10-2012, 11:57 PM	#131 (permalink)
Dancien Graves Now with less padding Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 9,785 My Mood: Awards: 1	Middle Stalls in Malls across America weep for his passing. Now where will my Mother get her schmeltzy Christmas Cards?

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Soen Eber blink *SLU Supporter* don't need status Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA Posts: 3,374 My Mood:	Stanley Kubrick made a 1x4x9 black rectangle both a piece of art and a spiritual icon. Maybe its not the object, but how the artist uses it.

04-11-2012, 04:15 AM	#137 (permalink)
Brenda Archer Tired *SLU Supporter* Watery Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Portland Posts: 7,345 My Mood: SL Join Date: 4/28/2005 Blog Entries: 4	Kincade's kitschy art, his marketing machine, and his aggressive and assholish business practices are a perfect mirror of much of today's American culture. It's unintentional art, but it's not what we want to see. It's unflattering.

04-11-2012, 08:50 AM	#140 (permalink)
Morgoth Senior Member Splendidly Sesquipedalian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,239	When people say Hitler was a terrible painter, I am faced with the terrible truth that he was a better painter than I likely will ever be, and I also at one point wanted to go to art college. AND I ANGST FOREVER. FOR I AM WORSE THAN HITLER.. at art..

04-13-2012, 11:10 AM	#141 (permalink)
Cocoanut Koala Senior Member Retired Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 8,469 Awards: 1	Actually, some of his art found way into my life. My grandparents' house was quite a bit like the houses he depicted - though his pics were 100x my grandparents' house. Still, close enough to it to capture the house and its whole vibe. So I bought a scrapbook with his art on it, and a number of scrapbook pages to go into it, for a scrapbook devoted entirely to my grandparents' house. The idea came about because I have an absolutely idyllic picture of the house in snow, and several others which are pretty idyllic, and so much like his paintings. Just a fraction of the idyllic-ness in his paintings, of course, but a person seeing the pics of the house would understand why I would place them in a Kincaid scrapbook environment So far, I've collected and collated all those pictures, but I haven't made the scrapbook yet. I have room for all kinds of art in my life. While I wouldn't plaster my walls with his art, he was one of a kind, with a vision, and I appreciated the work . . . mostly for other people.

04-13-2012, 11:44 AM	#142 (permalink)
Ann Otoole Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 16,374	dude drank himself to death because people were mean and bullied him.

05-08-2012, 05:49 PM	#144 (permalink)
Errafel Eccleston . Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 318 My Mood: SL Join Date: Nov 25, 2005 Client: All the griefs	He lit himself more than his paintings

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