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Asher Bertrand · 04-08-2012, 12:55 AM

5 cents says he's rehired in 6 months after they think everyone has forgotten.

Ariane · 04-08-2012, 08:41 AM

So when is National Review going to fire the editors who let this piece of trash get published in the first place?

**Joshua Nightshade** · 04-08-2012, 08:48 AM

I think the point is that the National Review doesn't really have a problem with this sort of thing.

Casey Pelous · 04-08-2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua Nightshade

I think the point is that the National Review doesn't really have a problem with this sort of thing.

No doubt they will issue an apology for any unintended offense to our sadly uninformed, overly delicate and misguided sensibilities.

Mr. B · 04-08-2012, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ariane

So when is National Review going to fire the editors who let this piece of trash get published in the first place?

Since it was not published in NR - why would you expect them to fire people who do not work for them - and how exactly would that work?

**Joshua Nightshade** · 04-08-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. B

Since it was not published in NR - why would you expect them to fire people who do not work for them - and how exactly would that work?

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Originally Posted by Cristiano

National Review Fires John Derbyshire, Writer Who Penned Racist Screed

Reading is fun for everyone!

Mr. B · 04-08-2012, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua Nightshade

Reading is fun for everyone!

We understand that the OP subject article author (Derbyshire) had a financial relationship with NR that NR severed.

Unless the website the OP subject article was published at is owned or controlled by NR - how would NR fire the editors who published the article?

Dancien Graves · 04-08-2012, 10:03 AM

Step 1: Don't write an article that displays the fact you're a complete racist asshat.

Ishina · 04-08-2012, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. B

Baltimore Tourist Robbed, Beaten On St. Patrick's Day, As Attack Caught On Camera (VIDEO)

Are you posting this in support of the article in the OP?

Baltha · 04-08-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. B

Interesting perspective you have.
That video does not show what you claim it does.

So what does it show and why did you drop it into this particular thread with no comment?
I have to assume that you believe it has something to do with, or say about, the article in the OP, so in your view, does it back up the article in the OP, Disprove the article in the OP or have nothing whatsoever to do with the article in the OP?

**Shiloh Lyric** · 04-08-2012, 12:57 PM

Well, after reading this list of "rules", I feel very lucky to be alive. Wait...need to pinch myself. Yep. Still alive. Which must be a miracle considering I broke every single one of those rules just by virtue of the neighborhood I was raised in, the events I've attended and the friends I've had...still have, really.

Good Lord, I'm lucky, huh?

**Cristiano** · 04-08-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ariane

So when is National Review going to fire the editors who let this piece of trash get published in the first place?

It was not published in the National Review, but he was a writer for them prior to the National Review severing ties with him and is strongly associated with them. The piece in question was written for Taki's Magazine (www.takimag.com). It's not his first racist piece (he's also a big old sexist), so he had the National Review's tacit approval in the past.

**Eunoli Rain** · 04-08-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cristiano

It's not his first racist piece (he's also a big old sexist), so he had the National Review's tacit approval in the past.

From what the National Review said in their statement, he's always only "skirted" the edges of what went too far in his racism in the past. I see people do that all the time. They find the edge of what won't instantly raise all the red flags and go just that far and no further. I see it happening in a lot of editorials and blogs, and even here on this forum, sometimes.

Maggiedoll Alter · 04-09-2012, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ariane

So when is National Review going to fire the editors who let this piece of trash get published in the first place?

By "piece of trash," are you referring to the racist or the article he wrote?

If you were referring to the article, it wasn't actually published in the National Review. It was written by a National Review columnist who published it in a separate webzine. (Is webzine actually a word? My spellchecker doesn't think so, but that's what the article Cris linked to said, and my spellchecker has been wrong about such things before. It isn't a term I see much, though.) So any editors who might have had some say in the article being published didn't work for the National Review.

detrius · 04-10-2012, 01:04 AM

I guess they fired him because he let out their secret:

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Originally Posted by Racist Asshat

(13) In that pool of forty million, there are nonetheless many intelligent and well-socialized blacks. (I’ll use IWSB as an ad hoc abbreviation.) You should consciously seek opportunities to make friends with IWSBs. In addition to the ordinary pleasures of friendship, you will gain an amulet against potentially career-destroying accusations of prejudice.

(14) Be aware, however, that there is an issue of supply and demand here. Demand comes from organizations and businesses keen to display racial propriety by employing IWSBs, especially in positions at the interface with the general public—corporate sales reps, TV news presenters, press officers for government agencies, etc.—with corresponding depletion in less visible positions. There is also strong private demand from middle- and upper-class whites for personal bonds with IWSBs, for reasons given in the previous paragraph and also (next paragraph) as status markers.

(15) Unfortunately the demand is greater than the supply, so IWSBs are something of a luxury good, like antique furniture or corporate jets: boasted of by upper-class whites and wealthy organizations, coveted by the less prosperous. To be an IWSB in present-day US society is a height of felicity rarely before attained by any group of human beings in history. Try to curb your envy: it will be taken as prejudice (see paragraph 13).

Mr. B · 04-10-2012, 11:24 AM

'I May Give Up Writing and Work as a Butler': Interview with John Derbyshire

Ishina · 04-10-2012, 11:33 AM

He should certainly give up writing, but butler is too respectable a career for vermin like him.

**Beebo Brink** · 04-10-2012, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by detrius

I guess they fired him because he let out their secret:

In my experience, intelligent and well-socialized whites (IWSWs) are in fairly short supply, too.

Baltha · 04-10-2012, 01:37 PM

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For a thoughtful person today to believe that these social-engineering nostrums will (for example) bring black crime rates to a level indistinguishable from white crime rates, involves a strenuous act of what Orwell called "doublethink"

I truly hope that "black"crime rates are never at the same level as "white"rates. Image the carnage that would occur if desperate kids from the projects decided to plunder our pension funds, steal openly from taxpayers and destroy our environment with the same rapaciousness as the GOP backers.

Kaimi Kyomoon · 04-10-2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by detrius

I guess they fired him because he let out their secret:

And this isn't a satire?

jacqueline trudeau · 04-10-2012, 03:54 PM

OK, when do we hear Palin chiming in about NR taking away Derbyshire's 1st amendment rights?

Tracer Graves · 04-11-2012, 08:28 PM

another firing:

National Review Fires Another Racist Writer | ThinkProgress

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Following the uproar over John Derbyshire’s racist rant that led to his firing last week, National Review ended its relationship with another racist writer today. Robert Weissberg, who was a contributing writer to the magazine for years, was fired for his ties to the white nationalist group American Renaissance.

“Unbeknowst to us, occasional Phi Beta Cons contributor Robert Weissberg (whose book was published a few years ago by Transaction) participated in an American Renaissance conference where he delivered a noxious talk about the future of white nationalism,” National Review editor Rich Lowry said in a post today. Though National Review may not have known, Weissberg’s involvement with the group is clearly stated on his Wikipedia page. And the fact that National Review’s vetting process is so weak that they routinely published two openly racist authors for years raises serious questions about who else they may be publishing and what ideas those writers may share.

jacqueline trudeau · 04-12-2012, 10:59 AM

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And the fact that National Review’s vetting process is so weak that they routinely published two openly racist authors

The writer assumes this is because of a weak vetting process?

Who's being naive, Kay?

Tracer Graves · 04-12-2012, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jacqueline trudeau

The writer assumes this is because of a weak vetting process?

Who's being naive, Kay?

Isn't plausible deniability such a lovely thing?

jacqueline trudeau · 04-12-2012, 11:27 AM

National Review is just following in the footsteps of it's beloved founder.

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A 1957 editorial written by Buckley, "Why the South Must Prevail" (National Review, 8/24/57), cited the "cultural superiority of white over Negro" in explaining why whites were "entitled to take such measures as are necessary to prevail, politically and culturally, in areas where [they do] not predominate numerically."

A 1960 National Review editorial supported South Africa’s white minority rule (4/23/60): "The whites are entitled, we believe, to preeminence in South Africa." In a 1961 National Review column about colonialism—which the magazine once called "that brilliantly conceived structure" (William F. Buckley, John Judis)--Buckley explained that "black Africans" left alone "tend to revert to savagery." The same year, in a speech to the group Young Americans for Freedom, Buckley called citizens of the Congo "semi-savages" (National Review, 9/9/61).

National Review editors condemned the 1963 bombing of a black Birmingham Church that killed four children, but because it "set back the cause of the white people there so dramatically," the editors wondered "whether in fact the explosion was the act of a provocateur—of a Communist, or of a crazed Negro" (Chicago Reader, 8/26/05).

William F. Buckley, Rest in Praise

So maybe he did renounce his virulent racism in later years. So did Robert Byrd, but we never hear the end of his being in the KKK. Goose, gander and all that.

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