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Old 04-16-2012, 03:12 PM   #426 (permalink)
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I really don't require the trust nor the respect of the superstitious.
Unless you live in some self sufficient godless commune, that is probably wrong.

The lucky thing for you is unless you tell people otherwise, they will assume you believe in some god or another. Religious people don't assume atheism of others automatically.
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Old 04-16-2012, 03:28 PM   #427 (permalink)
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So what? People are welcome to jump to that assumption. It doesn't change how much their trust and respect is worth. Unless that assumption is coupled with a value judgment, in which case their trust and respect would be worth even less to me.
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Old 04-16-2012, 04:53 PM   #428 (permalink)
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Unless you live in some self sufficient godless commune, that is probably wrong.

The lucky thing for you is unless you tell people otherwise, they will assume you believe in some god or another. Religious people don't assume atheism of others automatically.
So effectively it's don't ask, don't tell for atheists. Do you see the problem some might have with that?
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Old 04-16-2012, 04:55 PM   #429 (permalink)
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If you stick to "I respect your faith, but it's not mine" and eventually add that you are atheist when questioned further, you'll be fine with most believers. Of course, there will be occasionally one of them who will want to convert you but that'll be it.
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Old 04-16-2012, 06:54 PM   #431 (permalink)
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Now if you like wandering about wearing tee shirts like this one:
While I think that would be an awesome t-shirt, I don't think it's the one you had in mind.
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Old 04-17-2012, 07:41 AM   #432 (permalink)
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Unless you live in some self sufficient godless commune, that is probably wrong.

The lucky thing for you is unless you tell people otherwise, they will assume you believe in some god or another. Religious people don't assume atheism of others automatically.
I think you're talking USA there, my bit of the world (UK) isn't quite so intolerant.
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Old 04-17-2012, 07:43 AM   #433 (permalink)
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Then it's a different story because people will feel threatened in their faith.
In which case - whatever it is they think they have, it's not 'Faith'...

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In such places you can probably not stay long without lying about your convictions.
I've lived in Kansas most of my adult life and I have never lied about my beliefs. Not once.

I don't run around with an "atheist" sign over my head, but I don't participate in prayer, go to church, etc. Those who know me know all too well how I feel about such things.
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Old 04-17-2012, 09:23 PM   #436 (permalink)
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I think you're talking USA there, my bit of the world (UK) isn't quite so intolerant.
You are right. I have been taking for granted that the context is America.
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Where i am from. New England, I find people generaly dont care what faith you follow or even if you follow one at all. As long as you dont try to tell them that their religion is wrong or try to convert them. I have been part of many respectful conversations with many people of differant faith and of no faith, along with having friends who dont share mine or have none of their own. Its not a big thing in the northeast, atleast in my area. I rember celibrating Hanukkah and christmas in school. We even celibrated a few budist holidays becouse one of my classmates was budist. I feel i grew up in a typical New England small town, and thought the world was like this everywhere till i was older,
We were just taught to respect one another and their beliefs.
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Where i am from. New England, I find people generaly dont care what faith you follow or even if you follow one at all. As long as you dont try to tell them that their religion is wrong or try to convert them.
Same when I grew up in NH, your belief system was personal. OK, your parents often expected you to follow the same one as them, but not your siblings (I get along fine with my brother who is a minister).
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Old 04-19-2012, 04:08 AM   #439 (permalink)
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Yes you could consider the inquisition burning people in the name of God as a form of human sacrifice, I've thought about that. However it's written in the book "You shall not kill". So is it the book's fault or the religious fault?
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