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**Cristiano** · 03-31-2012, 01:45 PM

Child support deadbeat and utter douchebag Joe Walsh said of his Democratic opponent, Iraq war veteran Tammy Duckworth (who lost both legs and part of her arm):

"What else has she done? Female, wounded veteran … ehhh. She is nothing more than a handpicked Washington bureaucrat"

Classy as always.

Joe Walsh: Tammy Duckworth A 'Wounded Veteran -- What Else Has She Done?'

Lucifer Baphomet · 03-31-2012, 01:48 PM

Last year Democratic candidate Michael Redmonds bought a sport utility vehicle. Three months later there were two seperate incidences of hit-and-runs by an unidentified SUV in his area. Is Democratic candidate Michael Redmonds to blame? Can you afford to take that chance? Can your children? Vote Republican senator Robert Thorne, a candidate that has never committed vehicular homicide.

Democratic candidate Michael Redmonds has never publicly stated his opinion on child pornography. Is it because he is hiding something? Would you want a child pornographer voting on this nation's laws? Would you trust your children's future to someone like that? Vote Republican senator Robert Thorne, the candidate that is comitted to locking up child pornographers.

Democratic candidate Michael Redmonds recently sued Senator Robert Thorne for accusing Redmonds of being a murderous child pornographer. But Redmonds had previously said he was against clogging up courts with frivolous law suits. Wouldn't this make him a hypocrite? Would you want a hypocrite as your next congressman? Would you want your children to become hypocrites? Vote Republican Senator Robert Thorne, a candidate not accused of being a murderous child pornographer.

**Void** · 03-31-2012, 02:02 PM

:: Laughs at Luc ::
I love those TV ads, they are my greatest encouragement to go out and vote... against the fuckwit the produced them.

Bruise Shepherd · 03-31-2012, 02:16 PM

You had me worried for a second.

Joe Walsh - Rocky Mountain Way - Vintage Live Footage 1972 - YouTube

Teeny Leviathan · 03-31-2012, 03:01 PM

I guess being a decorated war veteran pales in comparison to being a cheap ass deadbeat dad. Now, if Duckworth was a man, white and a republican, they would be equal.

Polo · 03-31-2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucifer Baphomet

Last year Democratic candidate Michael Redmonds bought a sport utility vehicle. Three months later there were two seperate incidences of hit-and-runs by an unidentified SUV in his area. Is Democratic candidate Michael Redmonds to blame? Can you afford to take that chance? Can your children? Vote Republican senator Robert Thorne, a candidate that has never committed vehicular homicide.

Democratic candidate Michael Redmonds has never publicly stated his opinion on child pornography. Is it because he is hiding something? Would you want a child pornographer voting on this nation's laws? Would you trust your children's future to someone like that? Vote Republican senator Robert Thorne, the candidate that is comitted to locking up child pornographers.

Democratic candidate Michael Redmonds recently sued Senator Robert Thorne for accusing Redmonds of being a murderous child pornographer. But Redmonds had previously said he was against clogging up courts with frivolous law suits. Wouldn't this make him a hypocrite? Would you want a hypocrite as your next congressman? Would you want your children to become hypocrites? Vote Republican Senator Robert Thorne, a candidate not accused of being a murderous child pornographer.

That sort of smearing has been done for centuries, but never before with the power to absolutely blanket airwaves, billboards, and other media--just days before an election, when the smeared opponent has no chance to raise the money to counter the smears. This week's "This American Life" has a spot-on story about how the Supreme Court's decision on Citizens United has made this sort of 'campaigning' the wave of the future:

Take the Money and Run for Office | This American Life

Richie Waves · 04-01-2012, 06:30 AM

wanker.

Lucifer Baphomet · 04-01-2012, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polo

That sort of smearing has been done for centuries, but never before with the power to absolutely blanket airwaves, billboards, and other media--just days before an election, when the smeared opponent has no chance to raise the money to counter the smears. This week's "This American Life" has a spot-on story about how the Supreme Court's decision on Citizens United has made this sort of 'campaigning' the wave of the future:

Take the Money and Run for Office | This American Life

That specific smearing was lifted from the radio ads in Vampire, The Masquerade:Bloodlines.

**Void** · 04-01-2012, 07:24 AM

The sad part? they aren't all that far off from some races I've seen...

Imnotgoing Sideways · 04-01-2012, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucifer Baphomet

Last year Democratic candidate Michael Redmonds bought a sport utility vehicle. Three months later there were two seperate incidences of hit-and-runs by an unidentified SUV in his area. Is Democratic candidate Michael Redmonds to blame? Can you afford to take that chance? Can your children? Vote Republican senator Robert Thorne, a candidate that has never committed vehicular homicide.

Democratic candidate Michael Redmonds has never publicly stated his opinion on child pornography. Is it because he is hiding something? Would you want a child pornographer voting on this nation's laws? Would you trust your children's future to someone like that? Vote Republican senator Robert Thorne, the candidate that is comitted to locking up child pornographers.

Democratic candidate Michael Redmonds recently sued Senator Robert Thorne for accusing Redmonds of being a murderous child pornographer. But Redmonds had previously said he was against clogging up courts with frivolous law suits. Wouldn't this make him a hypocrite? Would you want a hypocrite as your next congressman? Would you want your children to become hypocrites? Vote Republican Senator Robert Thorne, a candidate not accused of being a murderous child pornographer.

Mygawd! He's channeling the mad blogger. (o.o)

Luc... What have you had to drink/smoke/inhale/huff/stickupbutt/rubineyes lately? (o.o)

Leslie Plutonian · 04-01-2012, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cristiano

"What else has she done? Female, wounded veteran … ehhh. She is nothing more than a handpicked Washington bureaucrat"

While doing nothing would equal a typical bureaucrat, she can't exactly be one if she has never held office.

At any rate.. Ex-military = leadership training, courage, selflessness, has seen there is more to the world that what is at the end of her block... Compared to an actual bureaucrat who has nothing, including taking care of his own kids...

She's overqualified.

Tracer Graves · 04-01-2012, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucifer Baphomet

That specific smearing was lifted from the radio ads in Vampire, The Masquerade:Bloodlines.

That was a fun game. I wish they'd do a new VTM game in that style.

Aribeth Zelin · 04-02-2012, 06:49 AM

I vote against anyone who does smear ads, without looking at anything else.

And this guy is costing the tea party votes from vets now..... wtg.

Mocksoup Graves · 04-04-2012, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tracer Graves

That was a fun game. I wish they'd do a new VTM game in that style.

I would so love to watch you play it... or get the cheat codes and play it myself.

detrius · 04-04-2012, 11:40 AM

So, what has Joe Walsh done except abandon his kids and insult a female war ~~invalid~~ hero who literally sacrificed an arm and two legs to protect his sorry ass?

Morgoth · 04-05-2012, 12:14 PM

Whilst I agree it's a shitty thing he did, I am a little uncomfortable with the rhetoric that as a soldier she ought to rightfully be worth more than he is, because she participated in the War in Iraq.

There is this creepy pro-militaristic attitude that surrounds what soldiers do with a particularly halo of rightness and goodness and heroism greater than any other occupation. I think that's a reflection of creepy societal jingoism.

I understand, soldiering is a job that needs wrapped up in patriotic feel good messages about its honour and worth to make it appealing to people.

But this jingoist spin, the talk of 'sacrifice' and 'honour', is not a true reflection of the greater worth of the job. There's nothing, in my view, inherently more noble and heroic about attacking those in other countries because your government says so. It requires bravery, sure, but it's part of the job, and it's hardly the only job which requires courage in difficult circumstances, even if it's one of the few to regularly expose people to potentially lethal levels of violence.

Frankly I don't think it accurate to call her a 'hero', and I don't think she was 'protecting' anyone's 'sorry ass'. To say so is to buy into the rhetoric that the Wars in Iraq were heroic examples of soldiers sacrificing themselves for the good and greatness of democracy, 'protecting' everyone in America with their military might. Which they most definitely were not.

detrius · 04-05-2012, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgoth

Whilst I agree it's a shitty thing he did, I am a little uncomfortable with the rhetoric that as a soldier she ought to rightfully be worth more than he is, because she participated in the War in Iraq.

There is this creepy pro-militaristic attitude that surrounds what soldiers do with a particularly halo of rightness and goodness and heroism greater than any other occupation. I think that's a reflection of creepy societal jingoism.

I understand, soldiering is a job that needs wrapped up in patriotic feel good messages about its honour and worth to make it appealing to people.

But this jingoist spin, the talk of 'sacrifice' and 'honour', is not a true reflection of the greater worth of the job. There's nothing, in my view, inherently more noble and heroic about attacking those in other countries because your government says so. It requires bravery, sure, but it's part of the job, and it's hardly the only job which requires courage in difficult circumstances, even if it's one of the few to regularly expose people to potentially lethal levels of violence.

Frankly I don't think it accurate to call her a 'hero', and I don't think she was 'protecting' anyone's 'sorry ass'. To say so is to buy into the rhetoric that the Wars in Iraq were heroic examples of soldiers sacrificing themselves for the good and greatness of democracy, 'protecting' everyone in America with their military might. Which they most definitely were not.

I had the same thought, but then I remembered John McCain's presidential campaign and had a vision of Steve McCroskey.

Wrong Week - YouTube

Isabeau Imako · 04-05-2012, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgoth

Whilst I agree it's a shitty thing he did, I am a little uncomfortable with the rhetoric that as a soldier she ought to rightfully be worth more than he is, because she participated in the War in Iraq.

There is this creepy pro-militaristic attitude that surrounds what soldiers do with a particularly halo of rightness and goodness and heroism greater than any other occupation. I think that's a reflection of creepy societal jingoism.

I understand, soldiering is a job that needs wrapped up in patriotic feel good messages about its honour and worth to make it appealing to people.

But this jingoist spin, the talk of 'sacrifice' and 'honour', is not a true reflection of the greater worth of the job. There's nothing, in my view, inherently more noble and heroic about attacking those in other countries because your government says so. It requires bravery, sure, but it's part of the job, and it's hardly the only job which requires courage in difficult circumstances, even if it's one of the few to regularly expose people to potentially lethal levels of violence.

Frankly I don't think it accurate to call her a 'hero', and I don't think she was 'protecting' anyone's 'sorry ass'. To say so is to buy into the rhetoric that the Wars in Iraq were heroic examples of soldiers sacrificing themselves for the good and greatness of democracy, 'protecting' everyone in America with their military might. Which they most definitely were not.

A completely agree with you Morgoth, but in this case, the guy was just being a dick.

Kaimi Kyomoon · 04-05-2012, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgoth

Whilst I agree it's a shitty thing he did, I am a little uncomfortable with the rhetoric that as a soldier she ought to rightfully be worth more than he is, because she participated in the War in Iraq.

There is this creepy pro-militaristic attitude that surrounds what soldiers do with a particularly halo of rightness and goodness and heroism greater than any other occupation. I think that's a reflection of creepy societal jingoism.

I understand, soldiering is a job that needs wrapped up in patriotic feel good messages about its honour and worth to make it appealing to people.

But this jingoist spin, the talk of 'sacrifice' and 'honour', is not a true reflection of the greater worth of the job. There's nothing, in my view, inherently more noble and heroic about attacking those in other countries because your government says so. It requires bravery, sure, but it's part of the job, and it's hardly the only job which requires courage in difficult circumstances, even if it's one of the few to regularly expose people to potentially lethal levels of violence.

Frankly I don't think it accurate to call her a 'hero', and I don't think she was 'protecting' anyone's 'sorry ass'. To say so is to buy into the rhetoric that the Wars in Iraq were heroic examples of soldiers sacrificing themselves for the good and greatness of democracy, 'protecting' everyone in America with their military might. Which they most definitely were not.

I have been totally against U.S. military aggression in Southeast Asia, Central America, Afghanistan, and Iraq. But I think most members of our armed forces are patriotic and brave and honorable and in many cases even heroic, even if they were misguided when they first signed up.

Polo · 04-05-2012, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgoth

I understand, soldiering is a job that needs wrapped up in patriotic feel good messages about its honour and worth to make it appealing to people.

But this jingoist spin, the talk of 'sacrifice' and 'honour', is not a true reflection of the greater worth of the job. There's nothing, in my view, inherently more noble and heroic about attacking those in other countries because your government says so.

I do agree with this and deplore the sort of thought-free glorification of the choice of working for any military entity (but then I'm not a fan of nationalism in general).

At the same time I do think there's something to be said for acknowledging that people who manage to become commissioned officers HAVE, for the most part, demonstrated some basic level of competence. In some but not all cases, they've also demonstrated a capacity for service to the public welfare (as opposed to pure self-promotion and greed), and I'm willing to applaud that, where it exists.

Walsh's dismissiveness of Duckworth's achievements just sits wrong with me, despite my disinclination to automatically fall in with the 'honor and glory' P.R. surrounding jobs in the military.

Baltha · 07-04-2012, 11:31 AM

And now the always charming Mr Walsh doubles down, apparently a "true hero" wouldn't keep harping on about losing both legs in service.

Quote:

“Understand something about John McCain,” the congressman explained. “His political advisers, day after day, had to take him and almost throw him against a wall and hit him against the head and say, ‘Senator, you have to let people know you served! You have to talk about what you did!’ He didn’t want to do it, wouldn’t do it.”

“That’s what’s so noble about our heroes,” Walsh continued. “Now I’m running against a woman who, my God, that’s all she talks about. Our true heroes, it’s the last thing in the world they talk about. That’s why we’re so indebted and in awe of what they’ve done.”

Rep. Joe Walsh: Double-amputee Tammy Duckworth not a ‘true’ military hero | The Raw Story

Gabriell Anatra · 07-04-2012, 01:05 PM

Whereas you, Joe Walsh, never seem to talk about anyone but yourself unless it's to tear them down.

**Cindy Claveau** · 07-04-2012, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgoth

Whilst I agree it's a shitty thing he did, I am a little uncomfortable with the rhetoric that as a soldier she ought to rightfully be worth more than he is, because she participated in the War in Iraq.

There is this creepy pro-militaristic attitude that surrounds what soldiers do with a particularly halo of rightness and goodness and heroism greater than any other occupation. I think that's a reflection of creepy societal jingoism.

It can be, I agree. It's part of embedded American militarism that we "Support the Troops" even if we don't support the wars they fight. I hate that it's become a measure of qualifications for public office because I honestly don't think ex-Generals make good Presidents.

But underneath all of that is also the fact that real heroes are exemplified by self-sacrifice for the greater good. That qualifies many public servants, military or not. Hero worship is a unifier and right now, with the dramatic polarization of our society, I don't think a little unification hurts.

Lord knows I look up to and admire my own family members who have served in Vietnam, Bosnia, Iraq and Afghanistan no matter how I feel about those wars. I know from personal experience that a lot of these guys truly are self-sacrificing patriots who don't need a flag, an anthem or jingostic bullshit to do what they do. I just wish that our politicians would be more careful in how they squander their blood and treasure.

That blame lays on the politicians' shoulders, not the soldiers.

Gabriell Anatra · 07-04-2012, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cindy Claveau

Lord knows I look up to and admire my own family members who have served in Vietnam, Bosnia, Iraq and Afghanistan no matter how I feel about those wars. I know from personal experience that a lot of these guys truly are self-sacrificing patriots who don't need a flag, an anthem or jingostic bullshit to do what they do. I just wish that our politicians would be more careful in how they squander their blood and treasure.

That blame lays on the politicians' shoulders, not the soldiers.

Agreed.

The real problem, though, is that the public's understanding of military and war comes mostly from television and other media. We've got a culture of couch potatoes, armchair heroes, and cubicle commandos who think they've got a clue.

Worse, some just don't care, they want their egos petted and aren't any more concerned about the soldiers than they are about 'those foreigners'.

The pols are selling to this and know it and they won't stop until the public develops a clue.

Polo · 07-04-2012, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baltha

And now the always charming Mr Walsh doubles down, apparently a "true hero" wouldn't keep harping on about losing both legs in service.

Right, and of course John McCain is the best comparison with someone who DID lose both legs in service as far as contrasting the number of times the fact is mentioned in speeches, since John McCain ALSO lost both legs in service.

Oh, wait....

Quote:

Walsh continued. “Now I’m running against a woman who, my God, that’s all she talks about.

(quoting from Balthus' quote from
Rep. Joe Walsh: Double-amputee Tammy Duckworth not a ‘true’ military hero | The Raw Story)

I wonder how Walsh feels about being a liar with his pants constantly on fire?*

Duckworth's JOBS since her injuries occurred have been with Veteran's affairs in the state of Illinois, and then with the federal government. SHOCKING, then that she might be on the record as having mentioned injuries received during military service!

*from The Venture Bros.

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Lucifer Baphomet Nobel Peace Prize Winner *SLU Supporter* Zenophile Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Darkmere Posts: 20,949 My Mood: Business: Radio Free Darkmere Awards: 1	Last year Democratic candidate Michael Redmonds bought a sport utility vehicle. Three months later there were two seperate incidences of hit-and-runs by an unidentified SUV in his area. Is Democratic candidate Michael Redmonds to blame? Can you afford to take that chance? Can your children? Vote Republican senator Robert Thorne, a candidate that has never committed vehicular homicide. Democratic candidate Michael Redmonds has never publicly stated his opinion on child pornography. Is it because he is hiding something? Would you want a child pornographer voting on this nation's laws? Would you trust your children's future to someone like that? Vote Republican senator Robert Thorne, the candidate that is comitted to locking up child pornographers. Democratic candidate Michael Redmonds recently sued Senator Robert Thorne for accusing Redmonds of being a murderous child pornographer. But Redmonds had previously said he was against clogging up courts with frivolous law suits. Wouldn't this make him a hypocrite? Would you want a hypocrite as your next congressman? Would you want your children to become hypocrites? Vote Republican Senator Robert Thorne, a candidate not accused of being a murderous child pornographer. __________________

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Teeny Leviathan 9 Years? 9 Years!!! Impertinent, ill-nurtured, hedge-pig Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,842 SL Join Date: 05/20/2003	I guess being a decorated war veteran pales in comparison to being a cheap ass deadbeat dad. Now, if Duckworth was a man, white and a republican, they would be equal.

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Morgoth Senior Member Splendidly Sesquipedalian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,232	Whilst I agree it's a shitty thing he did, I am a little uncomfortable with the rhetoric that as a soldier she ought to rightfully be worth more than he is, because she participated in the War in Iraq. There is this creepy pro-militaristic attitude that surrounds what soldiers do with a particularly halo of rightness and goodness and heroism greater than any other occupation. I think that's a reflection of creepy societal jingoism. I understand, soldiering is a job that needs wrapped up in patriotic feel good messages about its honour and worth to make it appealing to people. But this jingoist spin, the talk of 'sacrifice' and 'honour', is not a true reflection of the greater worth of the job. There's nothing, in my view, inherently more noble and heroic about attacking those in other countries because your government says so. It requires bravery, sure, but it's part of the job, and it's hardly the only job which requires courage in difficult circumstances, even if it's one of the few to regularly expose people to potentially lethal levels of violence. Frankly I don't think it accurate to call her a 'hero', and I don't think she was 'protecting' anyone's 'sorry ass'. To say so is to buy into the rhetoric that the Wars in Iraq were heroic examples of soldiers sacrificing themselves for the good and greatness of democracy, 'protecting' everyone in America with their military might. Which they most definitely were not.

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Gabriell Anatra Imp Who are you? Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Somewhere else. Posts: 2,293 SL Join Date: Early '06 or late '05, not sure. Client: Singularity	Whereas you, Joe Walsh, never seem to talk about anyone but yourself unless it's to tear them down.

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