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Tess Whitcroft · 03-20-2012, 01:03 AM

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How did a kid armed with Skittles and an ice tea get gunned down by an overeager neighborhood watch captain? And why didn't police detain shooter George Zimmerman?

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On the evening of February 26, Trayvon Martin—an unarmed 17-year-old African American student—was confronted, shot, and killed near his home by George Zimmerman, a Latino neighborhood watch captain in the Orlando, Florida, suburb of Sanford. Zimmerman has not been charged with a crime. Since Martin's death and the release of more details, the case has garnered national media attention and sparked a host of public debates over racial tensions, vigilantism, police practices, and gun laws.

The Trayvon Martin Killing, Explained | Mother Jones

Tess

**Cristiano** · 03-20-2012, 01:16 AM

Attention from all over the world and a petition on change.org with over 400,000 signatures has prompted the US Justice Department and the FBI to investigate.

Outrage prompts U.S. investigation of Fla. teen killing | Reuters

**Cristiano** · 03-20-2012, 01:18 AM

'I Am Trayvon Martin' As Their Message, College Students Rally Demanding Justice

**Soen Eber** · 03-20-2012, 01:28 AM

Signed.

I really need to stay current.

Alazarin · 03-20-2012, 01:37 PM

And finally, after a lot of pushing and prodding, an investigation is to take place:

Outrage prompts US investigation of Trayvon Martin killing - Americas - World - The Independent

**Io Zeno** · 03-20-2012, 01:41 PM

Yeah, they aren't going to get away with this one.

Mainly.... because this wasn't a cop.

Richie Waves · 03-20-2012, 01:46 PM

Fucking outrage he wasn't arrested on the spot. Criminal record for resisting arrest with assault of an officer to boot. Shoots down a A grade student with a pack of sweets in his hand.

Roxanne Blue · 03-20-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Richie Waves

Fucking outrage he wasn't arrested on the spot. Criminal record for resisting arrest with assault of an officer to boot. Shoots down a black A grade student with a pack of sweets in his hand.

FTFY

Eris · 03-20-2012, 02:23 PM

Zimmerman pursued the kid against the instructions of the 911 operator. It can't possibly be considered self defense.

Richie Waves · 03-20-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Eris

Zimmerman pursued the kid against the instructions of the 911 operator. It can't possibly be considered self defense.

Zimmerman, 240 pounds. Trayvon, 150 pounds, I'm sure Zimeboy was just so terrified of skittles he had no choice but to put the kid down.

Polo · 03-20-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Richie Waves

Zimeboy was just so terrified of skittles he had no choice but to put the kid down.

It would help if Al Sharpton would quit saying that Trayvon was armed with SKILLETS (I heard him say it twice yesterday on MSNBC, once on his own show and once on Ed Schultz's show.)

I love me some Rev. Al (Sharpton), but... - Democratic Underground

Anyway, the Grand Jury news is at least progress. This won't be swept under the rug anymore.

I hope that we'll learn why the girlfriend took so long to come forward with her story--23 days. This linked story says she was 'traumatized' but you'd think she'd want to provide this evidence that the shooting was wrongful--unless she was threatened with harm if she came forward?...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...8/1?csp=34news

detrius · 03-20-2012, 03:31 PM

Trayvon Martin 911 Call - YouTube

Listen closely to what Zimmerman says at 2:19.

Polo · 03-20-2012, 03:45 PM

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Listen closely to what Zimmerman says at 2:19.

My system won't let me turn the volume high enough to catch what he says (under his breath, so to speak). I'm guessing: a racial epithet...?

The QuietOne · 03-20-2012, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Eris

Zimmerman pursued the kid against the instructions of the 911 operator. It can't possibly be considered self defense.

I think it's going to come down to Florida's Stand Your Ground law.

Florida shooting renews debate over 'stand your ground' laws - CNN.com

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The law allows people to use deadly force away from their homes -- where such force has long been allowed -- if they have reasonable fear an assailant could seriously harm them or someone else.

Not shockingly heavily endorsed by the NRA.

detrius · 03-21-2012, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by The QuietOne

I think it's going to come down to Florida's Stand Your Ground law.

Florida shooting renews debate over 'stand your ground' laws - CNN.com

It's really just a blank check for murderers.

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The incident unfolded when Miglino, 39, went to pick up his 3-year-old son for a scheduled visit. His mother-in-law, Cheryl Hepner, stood outside the home with the toddler's pillow and bag.

"According to him, when he asked for the things, she instead pulled out a handgun and starts firing shots," according to Dani Moschella, a spokeswoman for the Broward County Sheriff's Office.

Miglino was shot twice with a .22 caliber Beretta handgun. The bullets hit him in the shoulder and rib cage. Even though he was injured, he pounced and wrestled the gun away from Hepner, then drove away while calling for help, police said.

But it turns out that Hepner, too, had called police, with a different version of events.

When she was asked by the 911 dispatcher about whether she or Miglino pulled the gun, Hepner replied: "No, he pulled it on me and he's got it. He drove away," according to an audio recording of the call.

She also mentions to the dispatcher that he and her daughter were in "the middle of a horrible divorce."

But in the recording on Miglino's iPhone told a different story.

Woman, 66, Shoots Estranged Son-in-Law Over Custody Dispute, Florida Police Say - ABC News

detrius · 03-21-2012, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Polo

My system won't let me turn the volume high enough to catch what he says (under his breath, so to speak). I'm guessing: a racial epithet...?

It sounds like "fucking coon".

IsisAlexander · 03-21-2012, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Polo

I hope that we'll learn why the girlfriend took so long to come forward with her story--23 days. This linked story says she was 'traumatized' but you'd think she'd want to provide this evidence that the shooting was wrongful--unless she was threatened with harm if she came forward?...

Considering the cops didnt even arrest the guy at the scene, she probably was scared to say anything. She knew they wouldnt listen and maybe try to harass or harm her. That is what the good ole boy network does. They didnt even talk to witnesses in the neighborhood. They had their story and was done with it.

She came forward now because the whole country is listening.

Ann Otoole · 03-21-2012, 04:31 AM

no the stand your ground law is not a right for white supremacist retards that can't get a job as a security guard to proclaim themselves neighborhood watch, an unarmed organization, and summarily execute innocent black children.

More than likely the cops are hoping the zimmerman retard will commit suicide and save then huge expense and burden of a show trial.

Roxanne Blue · 03-21-2012, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The QuietOne

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The law allows people to use deadly force away from their homes -- where such force has long been allowed -- if they have reasonable fear an assailant could seriously harm them or someone else.

Not shockingly heavily endorsed by the NRA.

This being Florida, I think the law was actually written by the NRA lobbyists.

A Look Back At The NRA's Effort To Pass Florida's Stand Your Ground Law | Media Matters for America

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NRA chief lobbyist Chris Cox did a victory lap after the passage of Florida's "Stand Your Ground" legislation in the NRA's American Hunter magazine. Touting the legislation as a "critical turning point in what has become our proactive approach to gun-rights activism" Cox dismissed concerns raised in a The Washington Post article on the legislation. Cox:

As NRA and its grassroots affiliates move forward with this initiative, no doubt you'll be hearing more about it-and not just from those of us committed to firearm freedom. The usual suspects among the anti-gun media are already suggesting what's become an all-too-familiar slant from them, that the law could give rise to a "Wild West revival, a return to the days of 'shoot first and ask questions later,'" (The Washington Post, April 26). [American Hunter 07/01/2005, retrieved via Nexis 3/20/2012]

Because in the "good old boy" areas of north and central Florida, gun rights trump every other right in the Constitution- including, apparently, the right to breathe.

**Cindy Claveau** · 03-21-2012, 03:40 PM

Trivia side note: Sanford city manager Norton Bonaparte is also the former city manager of Topeka KS, where he was forced out for incompetence. The final motion of the city council there declined to dismiss for cause (allowing him to take separation pay), but he was roundly criticized for his inability to adequately manage the city.

This doesn't have a lot to do with the shooting itself, but if you watch how the whole PR mess is handled you'll get to see Bonaparte in action.

Sanford, Fla., explains why George Zimmerman was not arrested - BlogPost - The Washington Post

**Cristiano** · 03-21-2012, 07:18 PM

George Zimmerman Unprotected By Self-Defense Law in Trayvon Martin Killing, Florida Lawmakers Say

Errafel Eccleston · 03-21-2012, 07:58 PM

:img_that-nelson-gif:

Dancien Graves · 03-21-2012, 08:18 PM

I have been reading through Florida's self defense statutes and frankly they are a clusterfuck. Zimmerman is a murderer though, there is no way that this asshole acted in self defense.

Teeny Leviathan · 03-21-2012, 08:31 PM

If Zimmerman somehow weasels out of this, he had better go into hiding, because people have long memories. He had better leave the state too, since "standing your ground" is apparently "legal" there.

**Cristiano** · 03-22-2012, 01:32 AM

Gov. Jennifer M. Granholm: 5 Reasons Zimmerman's "Stand Your Ground" Defense Won't Work in Trayvon Martin Case

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Alazarin Senior Member Editing Status Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: London Posts: 440 My Mood: SL Join Date: 04/04/2005	And finally, after a lot of pushing and prodding, an investigation is to take place: Outrage prompts US investigation of Trayvon Martin killing - Americas - World - The Independent __________________ Interplanetary Rock'n'Roll My stuff on SL Marketplace:http://tinyurl.com/3dlu25f My music on SL Marketplace: http://tinyurl.com/3qe5l5f Bandcamp: http://alazarinmobius.bandcamp.com/

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Cindy Claveau E=mc^(OMG)/wtf *SLU Supporter* Free's Sister Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brownbackistan Posts: 27,449 My Mood: SL Join Date: May, 2005 Client: Firestorm Blog Entries: 16 Awards: 2	Trivia side note: Sanford city manager Norton Bonaparte is also the former city manager of Topeka KS, where he was forced out for incompetence. The final motion of the city council there declined to dismiss for cause (allowing him to take separation pay), but he was roundly criticized for his inability to adequately manage the city. This doesn't have a lot to do with the shooting itself, but if you watch how the whole PR mess is handled you'll get to see Bonaparte in action. Sanford, Fla., explains why George Zimmerman was not arrested - BlogPost - The Washington Post __________________ "As long as there’s one person on earth who remembers you, it isn’t over." - Oscar Hammerstein

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Eris Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,792	Zimmerman pursued the kid against the instructions of the 911 operator. It can't possibly be considered self defense.

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Dancien Graves Now with less padding Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 9,782 My Mood: Awards: 1	I have been reading through Florida's self defense statutes and frankly they are a clusterfuck. Zimmerman is a murderer though, there is no way that this asshole acted in self defense.

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