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Old 03-06-2012, 06:31 PM   #601 (permalink)
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Was she a public figure before Limbaugh turned her into one?
Yes, though far less of one than Limbaugh.
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So for instance could a politician publicly label his opponent with lies and then claim no harm because the opponent was a public figure?

Seems as if people lying in public about anyone would be opening themselves up for lawsuits.
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This is so fucked up, from that article:
That was in 1998 and not a damn thing has changed. Hell it has gotten worse...
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Ironically, using this logic Limbaugh would have to argue in court that no reasonable person would actually believe his statements on Fluke, but it's the sort of head-spinning after-the-fact dismissal that he's done before.
It would be delicious to see him throw his audience under the bus like that.

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That was in 1998 and not a damn thing has changed. Hell it has gotten worse...
Yeah, that was before Ratzinger got his fancy new dress and even back then, he was known to be an unbearable misogynistic piece of shit in Germany, basically John Paul's Dick Cheney.
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Old 03-06-2012, 07:19 PM   #606 (permalink)
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What kind of bullshit is that? The right to free speech is absolutely subject to both personal boycott as well as legal restriction and should be as it ensures that the right be equally granted to all, namely so that the right of free speech for one person doesn't override the rights of another.
A boycott IS free speech.

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Was she a public figure before Limbaugh turned her into one?
Yes. But that "public figure" protection is far from absolute. See Carol Burnett vs. The National Enquirer.

Under U.S. law, in order to be guilty of libel against a public figure such as Burnett, a publication must be shown to have knowingly, or with reckless regard for the truth, disseminated facts that were false and defamatory,

IMHO, there is definitely a reasonable case for a lawsuit, but of course, it's American jurisprudence after that.
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Old 03-06-2012, 07:21 PM   #607 (permalink)
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CALLER:..What you're dealing with and so effectively, Rush, is you're countering every day, not just Democrats, but you're countering the spirit of anti-Christ, how the Catholic Church is being forced to pay for health care, for morning-after pills. And you talk about indecent, President Obama's indecent, infanticide is indecent. Being the abortion president who forces people against their conscience to pay for other people's abortions is indecent. This election coming up is so crucial. Just stay on guard and be the watchman on the wall, Rush, and you're fighting the spirit of anti-Christ. This redistribution of wealth, infanticide, government controlling everything, clamoring against Christianity and everybody else has rights and Muslims, but not Christians, all this is the spirit of anti-Christ. You're doing a great job, and you're right, you are a gift from God.

RUSH: On loan. Sincerely appreciate that. I really do. Again, the guy is right. Who is indecent here? Stands for abortion, after-birth infanticide, wants every abortion possible to happen.
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A boycott IS free speech.
I figure I'm partaking in Libertarianism...the market will correct itself and dangerous companies will fail, amirite?

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Okay, if you mugs wouldn't quote Perp I wouldn't even know what he was saying. But... having said that! Stop making me agree with him!

I'm sorry, but I think Bill Maher is vile. He's every bit as big a misogynist pig as Rush Limbaugh. The difference between Bill Maher and Limbaugh is that Maher is on HBO. HBO doesn't have sponsors. We pay for the priviledge of watching HBO. If you don't like HBO then organize a boycott.
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Old 03-06-2012, 07:44 PM   #612 (permalink)
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Yeah. He's real sorry. I can tell! Also, he's on loan from God.
Based on the effect Rush has, I'd say God is charging mighty high interest for that "loan".
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A boycott IS free speech.
Exactly. That's why I'm so stunned by that statement. To be honest, its not only an issue of Free Speech, if you view Limbaugh's show as a product, its a function of the market as well.
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Old 03-06-2012, 08:18 PM   #614 (permalink)
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Having seen Kaimi 'round and about for years, I wonder, is she the exception that proves the rule, or is it a silly rule invented just to make debate points?

/me ponders this for 3 nanoseconds before deciding and moves on.
Oh hey! It's yet another passive-aggressive Nika post!

/me ponders replying to it for 3 nanoseconds before deciding and moves on.
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Ooops. That's what I did. In fact my SLU experience is almost entirely in PR&S.
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Yeah. He's real sorry. I can tell! Also, he's on loan from God.
Would everybody who believes in any sort of deity or force or universal anything please pray that he/she/it recalls that loan?

(Er.. not necessarily "recalls" like "dies".. but at least gets rid of whatever it is that makes loonies describe him as a gift/loan.
I wrote the "please take back that loan" thing and then realized that it sounded awfully bad.
How about "shut up rush" written in the clouds or something?)
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you diagnose yourself?
No, I come up with a working theory of what may be the issue and that directs my research. Even if I was an expert in what was the issue I could not call a diagnosis on myself ... it is impossible to diagnose a problem from inside it (and my judgement in such could hardly be called unbiased).
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Old 03-06-2012, 09:15 PM   #618 (permalink)
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Can we mark him 'return to sender'?
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passive-aggressive Nika post!
Passive aggressive? Congrats on the thick skin, my post seemed to me rather plainly critical of your sweeping generalization.

Eh, when you make it less sweeping, kinda loses its punch, don't it?

If writing ever pales, I really think you could run a terrific contentious radio show. You have a lot of the techniques down, and it would be fun to see one of those 'mad dog' call-in shows run by a liberal. I wonder if there is one already?
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my post seemed to me rather plainly critical of your sweeping generalization.
Congrats on not getting the point! If I excised all of your posts on SLU that are to the effect of "oh hey I'm not going to read this post because [I don't like you] [Cris' moderation sucks] [this forum sucks] [Prokofy] but I still needed to take the time to write a public post saying I wasn't reading yours!" I'm fairly certain there wouldn't be anything left.
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Congrats on not getting the point! If I excised all of your posts on SLU that are to the effect of "oh hey I'm not going to read this post because [I don't like you] [Cris' moderation sucks] [this forum sucks] [Prokofy] but I still needed to take the time to write a public post saying I wasn't reading yours!" I'm fairly certain there wouldn't be anything left.
Not even true in this thread kiddo, but thanks for proving my point about your reliance on techniques common in rabid talk radio (overstatement, sweeping generalization, lalala):

Limbaugh Continues Misogynistic Attacks On College Student
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I will maintain an air of superiority and pretend I'm not interested in the thread while I make a petty cheap shot about the nature of those posting in it.
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I'm so superior I didn't even read this response. I'm also so superior, I needed to let everyone know.
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That was in 1998 and not a damn thing has changed. Hell it has gotten worse...
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Yeah, that was before Ratzinger got his fancy new dress and even back then, he was known to be an unbearable misogynistic piece of shit in Germany, basically John Paul's Dick Cheney.
That's a pretty insulting thing to say about Cheney, who now suffers from homophobic regret.
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Okay, if you mugs wouldn't quote Perp I wouldn't even know what he was saying. But... having said that! Stop making me agree with him!

I'm sorry, but I think Bill Maher is vile. He's every bit as big a misogynist pig as Rush Limbaugh. The difference between Bill Maher and Limbaugh is that Maher is on HBO. HBO doesn't have sponsors. We pay for the priviledge of watching HBO. If you don't like HBO then organize a boycott.
Perp isnt saying what you think... her argument is that we're all wrong for calling Rush an ass, because we don't drag Maher up when we do, so we're just being extra cruel to Rush because he's republican.

This despite the fact that Maher got got himself kicked of the public airwaves, for doing much less, and not nearly as often, as Rush who we're supposedly just biased against despite still suffering less for being a much greater asshole. It's the standard diversionary tactic of a 6yo, trying to lessen their own punish for misbehavior, or at least get the other people punished twice.

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