Perphides

If that's accurate, Asher, I will take your word for it (dubious though that may be) and I stand corrected. Also, I thought she was complaining about not being allowed to testify.. what testimony are you referring to?

Now how about you.. why do you support policies that will place healthcare even further out of reach for the ordinary consumer, both in terms of cost and accessibility?

Cristiano

You are an incredibly disingenuous person, it is sickening.

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Asher Bertrand

No, don't take my word for it.

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Cristiano

She was not allowed to testify at a previous hearing, in which she was denied the ability to speak.

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Perphides

The only person being attacked here is me, not any Muslims. I am celebrating their contributions by inviting anyone to help me list the Muslim hospitals who are so integral to our healthcare system. We have that one in south LA so far. But that's a long drive for me here in New York. Anyone know any closer ones?

Perphides

Well, evidently you were wrong about this "testimony." Did that testimony even occur? Or were you mistakenly referring to her press conference?

Cristiano

No, you are using it as a backhanded way to attack Muslims and point out that they are not as charitable as Christians because there are not many Muslim run hospitals in the US. It's a false equivalency, and can see your motives from space. Your lack of intellectual honesty is appalling. Also, you still did not respond to the actual lie that you made.

Casey Pelous

Yes.

Perpetually.

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Sredni Eel

Feel free to do a bit of fact checking yourself, Perp. If it's that important to you to find a Muslim hospital, here's a site that may help Islamic Medical Association of North America (IMANA)

On the other hand, you're just spouting unbelievable nonsense, and responding to you is akin to beating my head against the wall while I suffer from a migraine.

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Cristiano

Here is the transcript of her testimony - not a press conference:

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politic...%20hearing.pdf

Asher Bertrand

Here's a thought, Perfidy! Why don't you actually watch the video you keep talking about so you'll know!?

Sredni Eel

Here's a number of Muslim doctors practicing medicine in the New York area. I'd say they're contributing to the medical field plenty. You're welcome. IslamiCity.com - Muslim Yellow Pages

Perphides

Yes.. You're probably right. I'll bet those doctors view their practice as a form of zakat. They probably don't even cash the doctor-sized paychecks.

Cristiano

See, you did it again. WTF is wrong with you? Are you going to make the same comment about doctors working in the Christian institutions you are lauding over and over again as being a product of their faith? How dare they take paychecks for their work!

Sredni Eel

Uh huh. The same way that Christian doctors also don't take a doctor sized paycheck. Try again.

detrius

The dishonesty is particularly glaring due to the whining about alleged attacks on religion earlier in this thread.

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Cristiano

It all comes back to "freedom of religion=freedom for Christianity"

The QuietOne

Wait a sec..you're telling me you are in here posting a dozen times when you didn't even take the time to read what this is all about? What the basis of all the ire is about?

It's not even like she talked for 3 hours. Her full testimony as is the complete transcript is available all over the place. How difficult would it have been to do some research before you spew your anger about it?

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politic...%20hearing.pdf

First you jump in, talking like you know what is going on, are warned you really don't, then you admit, oh yeah, I don't know jack about it, but I'm going to continue to wave my arms and rant about it!

This is what's wrong with civil discourse in the US nowadays, people like you and Rush ranting about shit you have no knowledge of and not trying to actually educate yourself beforehand and then listening to the other side.

At least tell me you fuckin' stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

detrius

At least 'she' is not a conservabot taking orders from Rush & Co.

Beebo Brink

What part of "Perph is a troll" is so difficult to understand? The reason this poster doesn't listen or know his facts is that he isn't interested in doing anything more than watching people on SLU sputter. To that end, he succeeds admirably. But that is his only goal, so facts and reasoned rebuttals are irrelevant.

So far, I tend toward the theory that Perph is actually a group effort by frat rats or other bored entitled Republican rug rats.

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Perphides

As I understand it, Catholic hospitals are not-for-profit entities. As to my supportive comments on behalf of Muslim organizations and Muslim healthcare, I am perplexed as to why it upsets you so much.

Perphides

In order for it to apply to other religions, those other religions would have to have established hospitals, healthcare institutions, educational institutions, and the like, wouldn't they?

Mojo Skytower

Sheesh Cris, it's basic extremist strategy. When actual logic fails, blame the current enemy du jour (or quote your holy book of choice). 30 years ago it would have been "Name one of those Communist hospitals/charities.". These days in the US it's see through cloth (well at least according to Mockie). In Iran, everything is the West's fault. In the UK it's them Eastern Euro immigrants that are 'in ur country....steelin ur jobz' etc etc. All comeplte balderdash but because it's provocative language it usually works

It's always easier to move a ridiculous, bigoted, inflammatory argument to an external 'enemy' than to actually back it up with ... you know... facts and logic. In this case, the ridiculous argument being that a right wing radio host can call someone a slut and a prostitute and it's ok because she said something you don't agree with.

Well of course it's ok! My god didn't you realise there are Muslims in America!!!!!111!!

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The QuietOne

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