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Old 02-19-2012, 01:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Bill Maher On Unprecedented GOP Disrespect of President Obama

Bill Maher let loose on the amazing amount of open disrespect shown to President Obama by the GOP:

Bill Maher Rips Republicans for Their Unprecedented Disrespect Of Obama
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Old 02-19-2012, 02:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The reality is that Republicans were not just angry that they lost the presidential election. After the economy collapsed, this was expected. No, the right hates President Obama for a different reason. Obama represents something that Carter, Clinton, LBJ, JFK, Truman, and FDR never did. Obama represents a threat to their power as white men.

Every time his conservative foes see President Obama, they are reminded that our nation is changing. When the see the black man occupying the White House they are confronted by their loss of power. The White Republicans feel entitled to the presidency. It is their unfailing belief in their own superiority that is the basis behind their obsession with criticizing Obama as incompetent at every turn. If they can only make America belief that the black president is incompetent then they can be restored to their god given position of lord and master over us all.


Much as I was lukewarm about Obama as a candidate for the presidency, for this experience alone he was worth it.
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I think Bill Maher is entirely correct. There is constant disrespect shown to President Obama. I think our President is finally finding his feet, and that scares the GOP. Which causes more dispresect in an attempt to turn the American people more and more against the current administration. They REALLY don't want him to do a 2nd term in office. That will be definite end to "their" power. Right now, they still think they have a chance.
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Much as I was lukewarm about Obama as a candidate for the presidency, for this experience alone he was worth it.
I wonder how much shit they'll flip if someone petitions to have the White House renamed to Presidential House, or something similar.

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If the GOP strategy is to make people think Obama is incompetent, it is failing miserably because the one thing President Obama is not, is incompetent. There are things I don't like about Obama, he has a tendency to give in to politics too much for example.

But if he was incompetent, Bin Laden would still be alive, Qadafi would still be in power, we would still have troops in Iraq, and our economy would be in hyperinflation right now.

Obama is likely to win reelection in a landslide, against any of the four remaining GOP opponents.
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Obama is likely to win reelection in a landslide, against any of the four remaining GOP opponents.
Please please please make it so.
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Though the underlying point he is making might be correct, Bill Maher is not the person to be lecturing anyone about showing respect.
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BIll Maher is a comedian, not an elected official.
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BIll Maher is a comedian, not an elected official.
And he should stick to comedy instead of pretending to be a serious commentator. He was halfway decent at comedy before he started taking himself seriously as a commentator.
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And he should stick to comedy instead of pretending to be a serious commentator. He was halfway decent at comedy before he started taking himself seriously as a commentator.
How do you feel about Jon Stewart?
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And he should stick to comedy instead of pretending to be a serious commentator. He was halfway decent at comedy before he started taking himself seriously as a commentator.

That's like saying someone shouldn't become an accountant after getting their degree because they were becoming halfway decent as a waiter.

Think of all the actors we would never see in movies if they just figured, "hey, I'm an amazing waiter/waitress, let's forget about the whole becoming famous thing".
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Comedy tends to be a greater commentary than anything said in seriousness. (^_^)

The amazing power of satire as a social commentary is one of the best....
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How do you feel about Jon Stewart?
I've never heard Jon Stewart call a female Republican politician a cunt and twat, never heard him suggest that a political commentator should be sent to Egypt to take the place of Lara Logan (who was sexually assaulted in Egypt), and never heard a panel discussion on his show devolve into joking about how Republican presidential candidates deserved to be raped.
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I don't like Bill Maher. He's not funny. I love Jon Stewart.
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Everyone was so polite and respectful to Bush, the treatment of Obama comes as such a shock to the polite political culture of America.
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Bill excels at saying in crude terms what everyone else seems to be thinking but not saying out loud. Same with Jon, Jon is just a little nicer.
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Everyone was so polite and respectful to Bush, the treatment of Obama comes as such a shock to the polite political culture of America.
this is interesting, and partly true.... Bush pretty much issued in the era of disdain for the president.

there is however a key difference... the disdain of Bush started with the populace, and never overtook the media or officials. The disdain for Obama started with the media and oficials, but still hasn't overtaken the populace.
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this is interesting, and partly true.... Bush pretty much issued in the era of disdain for the president.

there is however a key difference... the disdain of Bush started with the populace, and never overtook the media or officials. The disdain for Obama started with the media and oficials, but still hasn't overtaken the populace.
The disrespect for Obama came from the Fox/Drudge side of the media, and spread to racist emails/photos spread by elected officals.

If you live in a red state (I live in Alaska) you know it's been in the populace pretty much since day one...

ETA Also there has always been an unsettlingly racist undertone to the obama attacks, let's not ignore that.
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Obama is likely to win reelection in a landslide, against any of the four remaining GOP opponents.
He certainly will in DC so I can vote Green or whatever with a clean conscience.

Not that I am that wild about Obama anyway. When Occupy was protesting CPAC last weekend one thing both sides could agree on was both hated Obama's guts.
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I think the disdain was in the populace long before it was in the media, because of the unrealistic expectations people placed on Obama. I mean little kids thought they wouldn't have to take ISAT tests anymore once Obama was elected. There are all the famous videos of idiots talking about what they won't have worry about once Obama is president. Even the Congressional Black Caucus has taken issue with Obama. The high expectations set him up for failure from day one, no one could live up to all that hype, except possibly Jesus. Obama knows he has lost the people, that is why he is aggressively going after big donors this time instead of counting on "all the small donations" he received last time.

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Though the underlying point he is making might be correct, Bill Maher is not the person to be lecturing anyone about showing respect.
It is the job of Mill Maher to take a critical view of those in the news and help us laugh at their failings. But as he says in this piece, in a face to face meeting with POTUS he would feel obliged to treat the man as he would the man's office with respect.
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Everyone was so polite and respectful to Bush, the treatment of Obama comes as such a shock to the polite political culture of America.
There is a big difference. While the public at large thought the man was an imbecile, he was not openly disrespected by members of Congress. Pundits are one thing, but when elected officials show disdain and contempt for the President, that is quite different.
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I know most people agree with her, but just because you agree doesn't mean that is a civil way to speak about a President, and she was a member of congress at the time.

Politics in America are nasty. People try to treat Obama like he is some sacred cow, but honestly he still hasn't endured what Clinton endured from the GOP.


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The high expectations set him up for failure from day one, no one could live up to all that hype, except possibly Jesus. Obama knows he has lost the people, that is why he is aggressively going after big donors this time instead of counting on "all the small donations" he received last time.
It's rather ironic that I'm actually more enthused about Obama this time around than I was the first. My objection to him was his lack of experience and the expectation that he would accomplish very little during his first term as his whole administration went through some painful learning curves. With several years under his belt, I think he's a much stronger politician and could make his second term worthwhile.
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