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infiniview Merit · 02-19-2012, 01:28 PM

Santorum questions Obama's "World View not Faith".

If you read what was said then this little edit in wording is complete BS.
What he made clear to me in his comments is that if your not in Rick's little world then Your Wrong and a sinner, and probably on the fast track to Hell!

Actually my reaction to these comments were complete surprise. Here is this guy who is the new temporary front runner in his quest for the GOP nomination. Were these serious comments inspired to be made based on his beliefs. Or did he decide that he does not actually want to be President?
Or does he really lack the presence of mind to such a degree that he does not realize how incredibly stupid these remarks are? I can sort of understand a candidate or a salesman that aggressively projects their own vision of the world. People will tolerate the differences in other people's opinions for a while especially if they are presented in a dynamic or entertaining manner, however if you assert a clear statement more than once as if your serious and it is of a nature that cannot be verified by facts then you will be removed from the minds of serious people as a serious candidate. Add this edit to it and it also shows that Santorum is not as authentic as people once thought. And THAT is what he has going for him, people admire his authenticity. If you lose that Rick then all you got left are a few ancient quotes that a few people in your own group agree with you about. I am guessing that the other GOP candidates are just letting him stretch his own rope about now.

Santorum questions Obama's 'world view,' not faith - Boston.com

Ann Otoole · 02-19-2012, 01:34 PM

Santorum clearly objects to separation of church and state and appears to have an intent to bring a christian form of taliban government into being. It will be important to get voters out to defeat him if he is declared the GOP candidate.

And yes he is stupid. Probably insane as well.

Same story stated a tad differently: Santorum says Obama agenda not "based on Bible" - Yahoo! News

Teeny Leviathan · 02-19-2012, 01:50 PM

If Frothy gets the nomination, Obama could realistically spend a few thousand on commercials for the general election. All he would have to do is recycle all this bullshit and put it in his commercials. On election night, Obama could thank Santorum for all the useful bullshit.

infiniview Merit · 02-19-2012, 01:52 PM

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Santorum says Obama agenda not "based on Bible"

Thank God!

**Beebo Brink** · 02-19-2012, 02:03 PM

I've reached the point where I welcome Santorum as the Republican candidate. He's single-handedly dragging the true fundamentalist Christian agenda out in to the light of day.

I'm tired of waiting for a showdown between right-wingnuts and the general American public. Whatever the outcome -- good or bad -- let's get it over with. If the U.S. is to be a Christian theocracy, then I want to know now, not later.

Bring it on.

detrius · 02-19-2012, 02:44 PM

It's not just Obama.

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As far as Rick Santorum is concerned, mainstream Protestantism "is gone from the world of Christianity." That's what he told students at Florida's Ave Maria University, founded by Domino's Pizza mogul Tom Monaghan, during a 2008 lecture.

The clip was unearthed by People for the American Way and played on Saturday's "Up With Chris Hayes" on MSNBC.

"We all know that this country was founded on a Judeo-Christian ethic. But the Judeo-Christian ethic -- sure the Catholics had some influence -- but this was a Protestant country," said Santorum. "And the Protestant ethic, mainstream, mainline Protestantism, and of course we look at the shape of mainline Protestantism in this country and it is a shambles, it is gone from the world of Christianity as I see it."

Watch the video from MSNBC above.

Rick Santorum In 2008: Mainstream Protestantism Fell Out Of 'World Of Christianity'

**Cindy Claveau** · 02-19-2012, 02:49 PM

Detrius' quote just confirms to me that Santorum is completely out of touch with reality.

All the better for the voices of reason this coming November.

Ann Otoole · 02-19-2012, 03:07 PM

I suppose some photoshopping of santorum onto pilgrims and witch burnings is in order.

Darik · 02-19-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann Otoole

I suppose some photoshopping of santorum onto pilgrims and witch burnings is in order.

Not Pilgrims, they were Protestants. However, photoshopping his face over the Pope's, I can see.

Ann Otoole · 02-19-2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Darik

Not Pilgrims, they were Protestants. However, photoshopping his face over the Pope's, I can see.

Santorum is mourning the loss of power by protestants. This leads me to believe he practices some form of protestant worship. Like my parents did. By beating their children daily hard enough to leave purple and green stripes from their heels to their necks.

"Spoil the rod and beat the child"

Darik · 02-19-2012, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann Otoole

Santorum is mourning the loss of power by protestants. This leads me to believe he practices some form of protestant worship. Like my parents did. By beating their children daily hard enough to leave purple and green stripes from their heels to their necks.

"Spoil the rod and beat the child"

I was spring-boarding off of detrius' link. In that he made a speech poo-poohing "mainstream Protestants" which tells me whatever his religion is it's neither true Catholic nor Protestant and the only link to Christianity it may have is Jesus in name only as its icon.

**Cindy Claveau** · 02-19-2012, 03:42 PM

Cuckoo Alert: Rick Santorum would die to stop gay marriage | MadMikesAmerica

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Earlier this week, the former Pennsylvania senator told Caffeinated Thoughts that he would be willing to “die” in the fight against marriage equality.

“The battle we’re engaged in right now is same sex marriage, ultimately that is the very foundation of our country, the family, what the family structure is going to look like,” Santorum explained. “I’ll die on that hill.”

The candidate later went on to explain that sex between a man and a woman is “special,” and even birth control is “not OK.”

“We’ll repeal Obamacare and get rid any idea that you have to have abortion coverage or contraceptive coverage,” he said. “One of the things that I will talk about that no president has talked about before is I think the dangers of contraception in this country, the sexual liberty idea and many in the Christian faith have said, you know contraception is OK. It’s not OK because it’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.”

Eris · 02-19-2012, 04:14 PM

Are Republicans really that jealous of Iran?

Han Held · 02-19-2012, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Teeny Leviathan

If Frothy gets the nomination, Obama could realistically spend a few thousand on commercials for the general election. All he would have to do is recycle all this bullshit and put it in his commercials. On election night, Obama could thank Santorum for all the useful bullshit.

You're underestimating the full extent of fundy craziness in the united states electorate.

santorum wouldn't be flapping his lips if he didn't have a reason to think his message would resonate with voters somewhere...

Amity Slade · 02-19-2012, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy Claveau

Cuckoo Alert: Rick Santorum would die to stop gay marriage | MadMikesAmerica

Be careful what you wish for, Rick. I hear Dick Cheney is becoming more active as a gay marriage advocate. Even if there isn't any actual death involved- Dick isn't such a good aim with a gun- there is a very good chance of waterboarding.

Teeny Leviathan · 02-19-2012, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Han Held

You're underestimating the full extent of fundy craziness in the united states electorate.

santorum wouldn't be flapping his lips if he didn't have a reason to think his message would resonate with voters somewhere...

Frothy's universe exists inside of a bubble, populated with old calcified, woman hating angry white guys. He's preaching to an ever shrinking crowd. If he gets the nomination and keeps playing to his fringe constituents, he's gonna lose the middle and practically hand Obama his second term.

infiniview Merit · 02-19-2012, 05:22 PM

I think he has lost any chance of the nomination over his religious attack on Obama. It just seems like it is just way too revealing in terms of where the guy is at intellectually.

"Vote for me cuz God's on my side!"....Really?

**Beebo Brink** · 02-19-2012, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Han Held

You're underestimating the full extent of fundy craziness in the united states electorate.

santorum wouldn't be flapping his lips if he didn't have a reason to think his message would resonate with voters somewhere...

Pitting Obama against Santorum would reveal the heart and soul of our nation.

1) We are a Christian theocracy and the Constitution is just so much toilet tissue

2) We are a nation of apathetic apolitical consumers willing to live in a Christian theocracy as long as we have access to HDTV and cable channels

3) We are a civilized nation of sane and reasonable people who support the constitution

Han Held · 02-19-2012, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beebo Brink

Pitting Obama against Santorum would reveal the heart and soul of our nation.

1) We are a Christian theocracy and the Constitution is just so much toilet tissue

2) We are a nation of apathetic apolitical consumers willing to live in a Christian theocracy as long as we have access to HDTV and cable channels

3) We are a civilized nation of sane and reasonable people who support the constitution

We elected Bush jr for a second term, so I think it's safe to strike number three off of the list...

**Void** · 02-19-2012, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beebo Brink

Pitting Obama against Santorum would reveal the heart and soul of our nation.

1) We are a Christian theocracy and the Constitution is just so much toilet tissue

2) We are a nation of apathetic apolitical consumers willing to live in a Christian theocracy as long as we have access to HDTV and cable channels

3) We are a civilized nation of sane and reasonable people who support the constitution

oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit.........

Maggiedoll Alter · 02-19-2012, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darik

Not Pilgrims, they were Protestants. However, photoshopping his face over the Pope's, I can see.

I'm thinking Tomas de Torquemada might be more appropriate..

Ann Otoole · 02-19-2012, 08:43 PM

Whatever. Santorum practices blasphemy. One of the 5 major tenants of his declared "faith" requires love for everyone regardless of whatever. Santorum is not a christian. He is a sack of infected puss. He is the closest thing to an actual antichrist that has ever walked the earth since the godwin'd one.

Casey Pelous · 02-19-2012, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Maggiedoll Alter

I'm thinking Tomas de Torquemada might be more appropriate..

Waterboarding for Jesus!

detrius · 02-20-2012, 02:22 AM

I'll just leave this here:

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The right wing Republican politicians who have been denouncing the requirement that female employees have access to birth control as part of their health benefits as an attack on religious freedom completely ignore the church teachings they don’t agree with. Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich are both Catholics, and wear their faith on their sleeves, but they are hypocritical in picking and choosing when they wish to listen to the bishops.

1. So for instance, Pope John Paul II was against anyone going to war against Iraq I think you’ll find that Rick Santorum managed to ignore that Catholic teaching.

2.The Conference of Catholic Bishops requires that health care be provided to all Americans. I.e., Rick Santorum’s opposition to universal health care is a betrayal of the Catholic faith he is always trumpeting.

3. The Catholic Church opposes the death penalty for criminals in almost all situations. (Santorum largely supports executions.)

4. The US Conference of Bishops has urged that the federal minimum wage be increased, for the working poor. Santorum in the Senate repeatedly voted against the minimum wage.

5. The bishops want welfare for all needy families, saying “We reiterate our call for a minimum national welfare benefit that will permit children and their parents to live in dignity. A decent society will not balance its budget on the backs of poor children.” Santorum is a critic of welfare.

6. The US bishops say that “the basic rights of workers must be respected–the right to productive work, to decent and fair wages, to the organization and joining of unions…”. Santorum, who used to be supportive of unions in the 1990s, has now, predictably, turned against them.

7. Catholic bishops demand the withdrawal of Israel from Palestinian territories occupied in 1967. Rick Santorum denies that there are any Palestinians, so I guess he doesn’t agree with the bishops on that one.

8. The US Conference of Catholic Bishops ripped into Arizona’s law on treatment of immigrants, Cardinal Roger Mahony characterized Arizona’s S.B. 1070 as “the country’s most retrogressive, mean-spirited, and useless anti-immigrant law,” saying it is based on “totally flawed reasoning: that immigrants come to our country to rob, plunder, and consume public resources.” He even suggested that the law is a harbinger of an American Nazism! Santorum attacks ‘anchor babies’ or the provision of any services to children of illegal immigrants born and brought up in the US.

9. The Bishops have urged that illegal immigrants not be treated as criminals and that their contribution to this country be recognized.

10. The US Conference of Bishops has denounced, as has the Pope, the Bush idea of ‘preventive war’, and has come out against an attack on Iran in the absence of a real and present threat of an Iranian assault on the US. In contrast, Santorum wants to play Slim Pickens in Dr. Strangelove and ride the rocket down on Isfahan himself.

Top Ten Catholic Teachings Santorum Rejects while Obsessing about Birth Control | Informed Comment

**Cristiano** · 02-20-2012, 02:37 AM

Witness the rise of the Talibangelicals.

02-19-2012, 01:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
infiniview Merit fractal networker Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: seattle Posts: 1,296 My Mood: SL Join Date: 4-27-06 Business: Texture Arts	Santorum questions Obama's World View not Faith. Santorum questions Obama's "World View not Faith". If you read what was said then this little edit in wording is complete BS. What he made clear to me in his comments is that if your not in Rick's little world then Your Wrong and a sinner, and probably on the fast track to Hell! Actually my reaction to these comments were complete surprise. Here is this guy who is the new temporary front runner in his quest for the GOP nomination. Were these serious comments inspired to be made based on his beliefs. Or did he decide that he does not actually want to be President? Or does he really lack the presence of mind to such a degree that he does not realize how incredibly stupid these remarks are? I can sort of understand a candidate or a salesman that aggressively projects their own vision of the world. People will tolerate the differences in other people's opinions for a while especially if they are presented in a dynamic or entertaining manner, however if you assert a clear statement more than once as if your serious and it is of a nature that cannot be verified by facts then you will be removed from the minds of serious people as a serious candidate. Add this edit to it and it also shows that Santorum is not as authentic as people once thought. And THAT is what he has going for him, people admire his authenticity. If you lose that Rick then all you got left are a few ancient quotes that a few people in your own group agree with you about. I am guessing that the other GOP candidates are just letting him stretch his own rope about now. Santorum questions Obama's 'world view,' not faith - Boston.com __________________ Texture Arts Headquarters http://slurl.com/secondlife/puea/126/10/60/

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Beebo Brink Senior Curmudgeon *SLU Supporter* I'm the woman your mother warned you about. Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 13,627 My Mood: SL Join Date: October 2006 Business: Brazen Women Shapes and Skins Client: v3 + Starlight	I've reached the point where I welcome Santorum as the Republican candidate. He's single-handedly dragging the true fundamentalist Christian agenda out in to the light of day. I'm tired of waiting for a showdown between right-wingnuts and the general American public. Whatever the outcome -- good or bad -- let's get it over with. If the U.S. is to be a Christian theocracy, then I want to know now, not later. Bring it on. __________________ Noob: "okay.... im in a house with cages and people in gags and the door just locked and i cant get out :c"

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Cindy Claveau E=mc^(OMG)/wtf *SLU Supporter* Free's Sister Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brownbackistan Posts: 27,466 My Mood: SL Join Date: May, 2005 Client: Firestorm Blog Entries: 16 Awards: 2	Detrius' quote just confirms to me that Santorum is completely out of touch with reality. All the better for the voices of reason this coming November. __________________ "As long as there’s one person on earth who remembers you, it isn’t over." - Oscar Hammerstein

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02-19-2012, 01:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ann Otoole Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 16,374	Santorum clearly objects to separation of church and state and appears to have an intent to bring a christian form of taliban government into being. It will be important to get voters out to defeat him if he is declared the GOP candidate. And yes he is stupid. Probably insane as well. Same story stated a tad differently: Santorum says Obama agenda not "based on Bible" - Yahoo! News

02-19-2012, 01:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
Teeny Leviathan 10 F***n' Years! Impertinent, ill-nurtured, hedge-pig* Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,849 SL Join Date: 05/20/2003	If Frothy gets the nomination, Obama could realistically spend a few thousand on commercials for the general election. All he would have to do is recycle all this bullshit and put it in his commercials. On election night, Obama could thank Santorum for all the useful bullshit.

02-19-2012, 03:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ann Otoole Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 16,374	I suppose some photoshopping of santorum onto pilgrims and witch burnings is in order.

02-19-2012, 04:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
Eris Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,792	Are Republicans really that jealous of Iran?

02-19-2012, 05:22 PM	#17 (permalink)
infiniview Merit fractal networker Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: seattle Posts: 1,296 My Mood: SL Join Date: 4-27-06 Business: Texture Arts	I think he has lost any chance of the nomination over his religious attack on Obama. It just seems like it is just way too revealing in terms of where the guy is at intellectually. "Vote for me cuz God's on my side!"....Really?

02-19-2012, 08:43 PM	#22 (permalink)
Ann Otoole Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 16,374	Whatever. Santorum practices blasphemy. One of the 5 major tenants of his declared "faith" requires love for everyone regardless of whatever. Santorum is not a christian. He is a sack of infected puss. He is the closest thing to an actual antichrist that has ever walked the earth since the godwin'd one.

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