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Old 04-16-2011, 12:33 PM   #26 (permalink)
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You better believe there is election fraud going on, big-time. The stakes are too high, the players too ruthless and ambitious. After all, if there are factions of power that will lie a country into a war that kills thousands of US and allied soldiers, let alone a million or more Iraqi deaths, what's a little election fraud on the homefront?

You won't hear about in your corporate media, but the story of the mysterious death of Mike Connell, Karl Rove's IT expert, is instructive.

Karl Rove’s chief IT consultant, Mike Connell—who was facing subpoena in connection with 2004 Presidential election fraud in Ohio—mysteriously died in a private plane crash in 2008. Connell was allegedly the central figure in a longstanding plot to electronically flip votes to Republicans.
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The corporate military complex was hell-bent on going to war in the Middle East, and the Bush Administration was their means. To that end, electronic voting systems set up by shady contractors with ties to the system were the rule in 2000 and 2004:

Election Systems & Software (ES&S), Diebold, and Sequoia are the companies primarily involved in implementing the new voting stations throughout the country. All three have strong ties to the Bush Administration. The largest investors in ES&S, Sequoia, and Diebold are government defense contractors Northrup-Grumman, Lockheed-Martin, Electronic Data Systems (EDS) and Accenture. Diebold hired Scientific Applications International Corporation (SAIC) of San Diego to develop the software security in their voting machines. A majority of officials on SAIC's board are former members of either the Pentagon or the CIA...
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I wouldn't say don't vote, because democracy still exists on a local level in many places, and there are ballot initiatives and things like that do matter. But if you think control of the presidency, the Treasury and the might of the US war machine is something left to the whims of the people and not the moneyed interests who have a deathgrip on most of the Western world, you are deeply mistaken.
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Old 04-16-2011, 03:12 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I've actually been to SAIC once. They do a lot of military contracting. A lot of it involves strategic planning, for example emergency scenarios. That would be one explanation for SAIC having DoD and CIA members on their board. They have pretty serious security if you want to enter the building, and my hearing aids went out when I was in the lobby, implying that they probably had some serious anti-bugging stuff in use as well (although they worked just fine inside the building.

The problem with imagining that they're part of some sort of vote-fixing conspiracy is that even if they were to do so, they'd be in deep shit whenever the opposing party regained power. If they were to lose all of their government contracts, they very well might cease to be solvent.
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Old 04-18-2011, 09:18 AM   #28 (permalink)
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It wouldn't be undetectable. The software programming to switch the vote would be detectable in the code, and simple testing of the machine would almost certainly reveal it.
It doesn't have to be in the code. It could compromise the binary, or a config file, or the kernel, or the display libraries, or....

Even if the whole thing is protected by something like tripwire checksumming, if you can compromise the checksum DB, or if you are in a position of trust in the first place, then you have full control.

There's about 1000 and 1 ways to compromise a full modern computer with a modern OS.

That's why I say the only chance you'd have of even coming close to a secure voting machine would be to make something that runs on a very simple microcontroller with as few lines of code as possible.
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