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Briana Dawson · 12-01-2007, 02:50 PM

Romney Refuses To Call Waterboarding Torture, Says He’ll Consult With Blackwater’s Cofer Black

During tonight’s CNN/YouTube debate, a YouTube questioner asked the candidates why they refuse to condemn waterboarding as torture. Former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney said that before making such a determination, he would need to get “counsel on a matter of this nature” from “a lot” of people. One of the people with whom Romney said he would specifically like to speak is Blackwater vice chairman Cofer Black:

I am not. I’m not going to specify the specific means of what is and what is not torture so that the people that we capture will know what things we’re able to do and what things we’re not able to do. And I get that advice from Cofer Black, who is a person who was responsible for counterterrorism in the CIA for some 35 years.
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Wow, I am really disappointed in this. I was hoping for a republican candidate that would not follow in the foot steps of Bush and recognize some of his mistakes.

I really do not want Blackwater to have a place in the next administration. Especially not as Senior Adviser for counterterrorism and national security issues.

Kendra Bancroft · 12-01-2007, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Briana Dawson

Romney Refuses To Call Waterboarding Torture, Says He’ll Consult With Blackwater’s Cofer Black

During tonight’s CNN/YouTube debate, a YouTube questioner asked the candidates why they refuse to condemn waterboarding as torture. Former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney said that before making such a determination, he would need to get “counsel on a matter of this nature” from “a lot” of people. One of the people with whom Romney said he would specifically like to speak is Blackwater vice chairman Cofer Black:

I am not. I’m not going to specify the specific means of what is and what is not torture so that the people that we capture will know what things we’re able to do and what things we’re not able to do. And I get that advice from Cofer Black, who is a person who was responsible for counterterrorism in the CIA for some 35 years.
---------- More at Link ----------

Wow, I am really disappointed in this. I was hoping for a republican candidate that would not follow in the foot steps of Bush and recognize some of his mistakes.

I really do not want Blackwater to have a place in the next administration. Especially not as Senior Adviser for counterterrorism and national security issues.

Your best bet is McCain.

Frankly, If McCain became President even I could live with that without losing sleep about our country descending into nightmare fascism.

To me, McCain is a nice normal Republican. I don't agree with all his policies -- but at least with him we'd be back to a normally functioning country again.

ZATZAi · 12-01-2007, 04:25 PM

Yah, McCain stands the best chance. Personally I like Paul, but it'll never happen. Though he is changing things, and that's definately a good thing, really makes the NeoCons stand out.

Serenity · 12-01-2007, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kendra Bancroft

Your best bet is McCain.

Frankly, If McCain became President even I could live with that without losing sleep about our country descending into nightmare fascism.

To me, McCain is a nice normal Republican. I don't agree with all his policies -- but at least with him we'd be back to a normally functioning country again.

Can we all agree they're all better then Bush?

Serenity

Kendra Bancroft · 12-01-2007, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Serenity

Can we all agree they're all better then Bush?

Serenity

Not Giuliani. He might be worse.

ZATZAi · 12-01-2007, 04:44 PM

I don't know, Gulliani seems like the last part of the trilogy.

Kendra Bancroft · 12-01-2007, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ZATZAi

I don't know, Gulliani seems like the last part of the trilogy.

I hated Godfather III

Kristian · 12-01-2007, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ZATZAi

I don't know, Gulliani seems like the last part of the trilogy.

No one liked the ewoks.

Squeedoo S · 12-01-2007, 05:08 PM

I....think Romney's mistaking waterboarding for that wonderful and (slightly) painful sport snowboarding.

And, if not, maybe he should try it himself! Fun for the whole family!

Briana Dawson · 12-01-2007, 06:04 PM

I've always liked McCain but I do not think has a chance of getting the nomination or defeating an Obama.

Kendra Bancroft · 12-01-2007, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Briana Dawson

I've always liked McCain but I do not think has a chance of getting the nomination or defeating an Obama.

Don't mean this as a slam.

I don't think any the Republicans have a chance against
any of the Democrats likely to get the nomination.

Unless the Democrats fuck it up, which of course is always a chance.

We excel at fucking up a sure thing.

Briana Dawson · 12-01-2007, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kendra Bancroft

Don't mean this as a slam.

I don't think any the Republicans have a chance against
any of the Democrats likely to get the nomination.

Uh..

I think you forget one important thing.

We have the fix in on the vote.

Kendra Bancroft · 12-01-2007, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Briana Dawson

Uh..

I think you forget one important thing.

We have the fix in on the vote.

I haven't forgotten

I just don't think it'll be close enough this time to steal without anyone noticing.

Brenda Archer · 12-02-2007, 01:10 AM

More scary stuff on Romney:
http://www.skeeterbitesreport.com/20...nce-chief.html

If you go down the page you'll eventually get to a mention of Straight, Inc., widely known to have operated much like an abusive cult, but with the extra evil that the victims were minors unable to escape. There are better sources on this than the page I found, this just came up from a Google search.. the news is going around.

One of the worst things that still go on in Utah under the cloak of unofficial Mormonism are abusive youth camps. Some of them are for trying to deprogram gay teenagers. If any of these people are anywhere near Romney, this tells me a LOT about what type of Mormon he is.

I was hoping Romney would be a moderate type Mormon because of the deals he made as governor, but it doesn't look to actually be the case. So right now I'm pretty much anybody-but-Romney because I know personally what the coercive side of the conservative Mormon mentality looks like. Not even their own church can fully rein in these people.

It would be Bush again, but without even so much as an effort to put spin on it. Just theocratic fascism and no lube.

Ned Easterwood · 12-02-2007, 07:38 AM

Romney seems to have White House disease bad. He'll say whatever he thinks he needs to get to the next step.

12-01-2007, 02:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
Briana Dawson Banned Loved by printesa Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Springfield, Illinois Posts: 3,981 My Mood: SL Join Date: September 23, 2003 Business: N&B Exports Awards: 1	Romney says he will consult with Blackwater on torture Romney Refuses To Call Waterboarding Torture, Says He’ll Consult With Blackwater’s Cofer Black During tonight’s CNN/YouTube debate, a YouTube questioner asked the candidates why they refuse to condemn waterboarding as torture. Former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney said that before making such a determination, he would need to get “counsel on a matter of this nature” from “a lot” of people. One of the people with whom Romney said he would specifically like to speak is Blackwater vice chairman Cofer Black: I am not. I’m not going to specify the specific means of what is and what is not torture so that the people that we capture will know what things we’re able to do and what things we’re not able to do. And I get that advice from Cofer Black, who is a person who was responsible for counterterrorism in the CIA for some 35 years. ---------- More at Link ---------- Wow, I am really disappointed in this. I was hoping for a republican candidate that would not follow in the foot steps of Bush and recognize some of his mistakes. I really do not want Blackwater to have a place in the next administration. Especially not as Senior Adviser for counterterrorism and national security issues.

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ZATZAi Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: California Posts: 2,525 XBOX Leaderboard: 14^th	Yah, McCain stands the best chance. Personally I like Paul, but it'll never happen. Though he is changing things, and that's definately a good thing, really makes the NeoCons stand out. __________________ - ZATZAi

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Squeedoo S And Now Presenting, Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Brooklyn, USA Posts: 1,520 My Mood:	I....think Romney's mistaking waterboarding for that wonderful and (slightly) painful sport snowboarding. And, if not, maybe he should try it himself! Fun for the whole family! __________________ "Happiness never killed anyone, but you can die from being too uptight..." -- a song by Wai Lana (Ohgodiwanttohavethiswoman'sbabies... D: )

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Ned Easterwood Just trying to get by Back Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Detroit, Mi. Posts: 18,536 My Mood: SL Join Date: 5/4/2007 Blog Entries: 21	Romney seems to have White House disease bad. He'll say whatever he thinks he needs to get to the next step. __________________ Ned Preach not to others what they should eat, but eat as becomes you, and be silent. -- Epictetus Do unto others as they would have done unto them. God grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference. - Reinhold Niebuhr

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12-01-2007, 04:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
ZATZAi Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: California Posts: 2,525 XBOX Leaderboard: 14^th	I don't know, Gulliani seems like the last part of the trilogy.

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Briana Dawson Banned Loved by printesa Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Springfield, Illinois Posts: 3,981 My Mood: SL Join Date: September 23, 2003 Business: N&B Exports Awards: 1	I've always liked McCain but I do not think has a chance of getting the nomination or defeating an Obama.

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Brenda Archer Tired Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Portland Posts: 3,843 My Mood: SL Join Date: 4/28/2005 Blog Entries: 4	More scary stuff on Romney: http://www.skeeterbitesreport.com/20...nce-chief.html If you go down the page you'll eventually get to a mention of Straight, Inc., widely known to have operated much like an abusive cult, but with the extra evil that the victims were minors unable to escape. There are better sources on this than the page I found, this just came up from a Google search.. the news is going around. One of the worst things that still go on in Utah under the cloak of unofficial Mormonism are abusive youth camps. Some of them are for trying to deprogram gay teenagers. If any of these people are anywhere near Romney, this tells me a LOT about what type of Mormon he is. I was hoping Romney would be a moderate type Mormon because of the deals he made as governor, but it doesn't look to actually be the case. So right now I'm pretty much anybody-but-Romney because I know personally what the coercive side of the conservative Mormon mentality looks like. Not even their own church can fully rein in these people. It would be Bush again, but without even so much as an effort to put spin on it. Just theocratic fascism and no lube.

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