Originally Posted by Lyndi Lupindo

It really bothers me that everyone who seems to be pro-legalization can quote articles, research documents, laws, and actually know more than what they learned in school. When I've yet to see one anti-legalization post with citations or articles (from an unbiased source, mind you) or any valid statement about the history of marijuana's prohibition.

Don't try to tell me Ford's diesel engine doesn't run on hemp seed oil when the TV and newspapers are littered with coverage of bio-diesel engines that are simply diesel engines with a different oil filter. Not only is there historical proof to back up my statement, but this 'new-fangled idea' of putting cooking oil in your diesel engine is exactly what I'm talking about. I seriously doubt you can disprove something that can be easily proved by checking the Discovery Channel's Video-On-Demand. And if you think you can disprove it, show me a citation - give me something more than the equivalent of 'nu uh!'... It -did- and -does- work, but when marijuana was made illegal, Ford could no longer continue with it and so began our dependency on gasoline. I know you must have taken a history class or two at some point, but didn't anyone tell you to think for yourself and learn about things that aren't in your text book?

Every anti-legalization argument has been nothing more than opinion, false information, assumptions... There isn't one valid argument amongst the bunch. If any of you have fact-based arguments, I'll be over here smoking a bowl. And eating Doritos.

Originally Posted by Adam Zaius

The reason we use petroleum over diesel is that the energy density of Oil is better. Conventional high-octane petroleum gives you a greater efficiency. Greater efficiency means we burn less; transport costs are lower (including energy required to transfer) which ultimately results in less carbon in the atmosphere.

Hemp isnt some magical wonder plant that is the solution to the worlds energy problems, if you want to burn biodiesel then you can use almost anything - the only reason people are promoting MJ for this over say is simply because it can be used as a wedge issue; 'Look at what your stopping!'. There are plenty of alternatives with better energy densities than hemp oil - everything from flax to palm oil. (mmm palm oil.)

It cheapens the argument to legitimize the plant if you try force it into places where there are better alternatives already; eg hemp clothing feels like crap - there's reasons we use cotton & wool.

That is not to say I oppose legitimization; I just think it's an unsuitable argument to make when the ultimate care is relating to recreational use (which I'm just fine with.), and any actual cares about alternative uses are simply straw men to try add a commercial benefit angle.

Originally Posted by Adam Zaius

Hemp isnt some magical wonder plant that is the solution to the worlds energy problems, if you want to burn biodiesel then you can use almost anything - the only reason people are promoting MJ for this over say is simply because it can be used as a wedge issue; 'Look at what your stopping!'. There are plenty of alternatives with better energy densities than hemp oil - everything from flax to palm oil. (mmm palm oil.)

Originally Posted by Adam Zaius

The reason we use petroleum over diesel is that the energy density of Oil is better. Conventional high-octane petroleum gives you a greater efficiency. Greater efficiency means we burn less; transport costs are lower (including energy required to transfer) which ultimately results in less carbon in the atmosphere.

Hemp isnt some magical wonder plant that is the solution to the worlds energy problems, if you want to burn biodiesel then you can use almost anything - the only reason people are promoting MJ for this over say is simply because it can be used as a wedge issue; 'Look at what your stopping!'. There are plenty of alternatives with better energy densities than hemp oil - everything from flax to palm oil. (mmm palm oil.)

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Originally Posted by Trout Recreant

I hereby pronounce you the Grand Holy Flayer of Flesh, Inducer of Howls and Eternal Crusher of Dreams

Originally Posted by Surreal Farber

I'd like to vote for hemp as cloth. It can be spun into an amazingly strong and soft cloth - if you want tactile orgasm, try a silk-hemp blend.

Originally Posted by Vengence Opus

1) The hemp seed produces 30-35% oil by weight. The only greater producer is canola, at 40%.

Originally Posted by Tranquility

For biodiesel, the amount of oil produced is only part of the story. I couldn't find any reliable sources that provided the physical data for hempseed oil. What is really important is the physical qualities of the oil and how useful it is as a biodiesel compared to other biodiesels.

Originally Posted by Joshua Nightshade

Burning biofuels stink.

Literally.

Originally Posted by Ayumi

So you're saying that they arent breaking the law to abuse a drug for recreation? Or that very often the people who smoke weed on a regular basis, arent doing it with little regard to the way it might affect their financial situation in the long term? Or that a lot of the people who smoke weed, and like to argue that "weed is good mmkay" arent minors?

How is ANY of that untrue, even if its stereotypical? Stereotypes generally exist for a reason, and the validity of your points, dont invalidate any of mine.