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Charlemagne Allen · 01-02-2009, 09:45 AM

From CNN citing a few other sources...

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SANCHEZ: And you know what we did? I've checked with some of the folks here at our international desk, and I went to them and asked, What was he talking about, and do we have any information on that? Which they confirmed, two months ago -- this is back in November -- there was an attack. It was an Israeli raid that took out six people.

Now, let me refer you -- it's not just us. We've checked in other periodicals. Johnny (ph), go over my shoulder, if you can. Here we go. "The six-month ceasefire started coming apart at the beginning of November after Israeli commandos killed a team of Hamas fighters during a raid on a tunnel they suspected was being dug for kidnapping of Israeli soldiers. That raid set off more Palestinian rocketing." That's "U.S. News and World Report."

I got another one for you, I believe, here. OK, this is "The Guardian" -- questionable, but nonetheless. "A four-month ceasefire between Israel and Palestinian militants in Gaza was in jeopardy today" -- this was actually reported when it happened -- "after Israeli troops killed six gunmen in a raid in the territory." That's important to report.

And here we go, as well, from the Economist.com, and the point of contention here is this one. Johnny, one more. "The last straw came in November, when Israelis killed six gunmen it said were digging tunnels to launch a raid onto Israel, spurring Hamas to respond with a barrage of rockets."

So the question as to who started this -- and we've been hearing that the Israelis say they had to do this because, suddenly, the ceasefire had been broken in Gaza by the Hamas and the Palestinians. Is this now a little more in question?

CNN.com - Transcripts

Not that the ceasefire was gold-engraved, but still......

Jahar Aabye · 01-03-2009, 01:15 PM

Errrrrm, Hamas has been firing rockets across the border fairly continuously for the past few years, including during the period covered by the cease-fire.

But it's sort of interesting here, the Israelis killed Hamas fighters digging a tunnel that, let's face it, was probably intended to do what they said it was intended to do.

In response, Hamas launched (more) rockets at Israeli towns, indiscriminately, with the intent to kill or injure civilians.

Yeah.

Circe Timtam · 01-03-2009, 01:27 PM

Here's another interesting article:

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Propaganda war: trusting what we see?

Briana Dawson · 01-03-2009, 02:09 PM

Malachi · 01-03-2009, 02:24 PM

Middle East International Relations Primer in 20 Seconds

Jahar Aabye · 01-03-2009, 09:17 PM

Heh, I've got a shorter description of Middle-East relations, it's the dyslexic, abbreviated Clauswitz:

Politics is War.

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01-03-2009, 01:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jahar Aabye Account Closed Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,137	Errrrrm, Hamas has been firing rockets across the border fairly continuously for the past few years, including during the period covered by the cease-fire. But it's sort of interesting here, the Israelis killed Hamas fighters digging a tunnel that, let's face it, was probably intended to do what they said it was intended to do. In response, Hamas launched (more) rockets at Israeli towns, indiscriminately, with the intent to kill or injure civilians. Yeah.

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01-03-2009, 09:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jahar Aabye Account Closed Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,137	Heh, I've got a shorter description of Middle-East relations, it's the dyslexic, abbreviated Clauswitz: Politics is War.

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