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Briar Bing · 10-15-2008, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Serenity

3/4ths of the people here on SLU's PRS forum are better educated, better versed, and better qualified to be giving commentary on issues, and how many of them are having their opinions virually spread over YouTube?

S

Do you think she wrote the script for that? I am under no such illusion.

Anyway, I guess we should make it unlawful for celebrities to voice an opinion, because they're just stupid. Every single, last one.

Jessica Robertson · 10-15-2008, 02:54 PM

Are you upset that she is famous? or that she has a voice?

Madhu Maruti · 10-15-2008, 02:57 PM

One of my personal heroes is an Indian actor and activist named Shabana Azmi. She is "just" an actor - actually just one of the most highly regarded and acclaimed actors in the world - but she also has served in Parliament (in an appointed seat rather than an elected one) and is a very earnest and hardworking activist for a variety of progressive causes.

I know people have a tendency to dismiss political activism from celebrities, and sometimes Shabana Azmi's critics do too. Sure, her opinion is no more right than anyone else's. But she feels she has a responsibility to use her work and her fame to promote social change that she sincerely believes in. "Art should be an instrument for social change" is how she puts it.

And really, isn't it better, in some ways, for celebrities to leverage their fame for causes they believe are just and right, than to leverage it to make millions hawking soap or makeup? We attack celebrities for being sell-outs when they do commercials, and we attack them for being full of themselves when they engage in sincere activism. Wow, society sure is hard on the people it puts on pedestals.

I'm not saying that Hayden Panettiere's cute little commercial (which is cute, and is funny) is the same as Shabana Azmi serving in parliament or hunger-striking for the rights of slum-dwellers displaced by urban development. But Shabana Azmi is 35 years older than Hayden Panettiere and a whole hell of a lot more famous and influential (in some parts of the world). So Shabana's work certainly has more gravitas than Hayden's cute snarky video. But Hayden's heart is in the same place - and I think she should be applauded for using the fact that people know who she is and will stop to listen to what she has to say to make a statement she believes in.

You don't have to listen, and you don't have to agree. But to criticize Hayden for trying to use her fame to support social change is, in my opinion, wrong-headed.

Cristiano · 10-15-2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica Robertson

Are you upset that she is famous? or that she has a voice?

I'm upset that her costar is fucking her.

Jerboa Haystack · 10-15-2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Serenity

She's welcome to an opinion.

I just don't see why any of us should CARE what her opinion is, at least not any more than we care about any other person's opinion. She's just an actress....

*shrug*

Oh...I *don't* care what her opinion is.

But I'll gladly sit in an empty room and listen to her talk to me all day long...and her f-bombs are soooo cute!

...oh...does that make me a bad person?

Trout Recreant · 10-15-2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica Robertson

Are you upset that she is famous? or that she has a voice?

I'm upset that she is clothed.

Jellin Pico · 10-15-2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Serenity

She's welcome to an opinion.

I just don't see why any of us should CARE what her opinion is, at least not any more than we care about any other person's opinion. She's just an actress....

*shrug*

And you're welcome to your opinion.

I just don't see why any of us should CARE what your opinion is, at least not any more than we care about any other person's opinion. You're just a poster on a forum ....

*shrug*

Try harder to be smug, superior and condescending next time Serenity

Cindy Claveau · 10-15-2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Trout Recreant

I agree, too, Serenity. I don't give them any more credibility than any other random person on the street unless I have seen that they have some actual knowledge.

I forget who said this, but it expresses my opinion about celebrity opinions: "Why should I listen to someone who makes a living pretending to be other people?"

Jellin Pico · 10-15-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Serenity

Sorry... actors, actresses etc acting as political commentors bug me. Celebrities tend to act like their celebrity status gives them some higher understanding of an issue, when all it does is give their opinion more publicity.

3/4ths of the people here on SLU's PRS forum are better educated, better versed, and better qualified to be giving commentary on issues, and how many of them are having their opinions virually spread over YouTube?

They're welcome to have opinions but my dander goes up when it feels like we're supposed to pay more attention because Tom Cruise wants to talk about ADHD, or because Tom Seleck wants to talk about gun rights.

Nice people sure, but still just people....

S

And .. far more importantly ... the video bashes your choice of candidate.

God you're so transparent

Jellin Pico · 10-15-2008, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jessica Robertson

Are you upset that she is famous? or that she has a voice?

Serenity s upset because she's using her fame and voice against the republican candidate.

Arilynn · 10-15-2008, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Serenity

She's welcome to an opinion.

I just don't see why any of us should CARE what her opinion is, at least not any more than we care about any other person's opinion. She's just an actress....

*shrug*

I didn't watch the video. I have no idea who this person is. I have never watched "Heroes".

But to me the person who seems to care the most in a serious way about this person's opinion appears to be...Serenity.

Bard Jameson · 10-15-2008, 04:18 PM

/affects Butthead voice...

"Heh heh heheh! She said 'fuck'".

Serenity · 10-15-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jellin Pico

Serenity s upset because she's using her fame and voice against the republican candidate.

I"m transparent?

I can't even access YouTube from work. I don't know what she said. I don't care.

Fucking assholes.

Serenity

Colette Meiji · 10-15-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Serenity

I"m transparent?

I can't even access YouTube from work. I don't know what she said. I don't care.

Fucking assholes.

Serenity

yeah not like Cindy didn't title this "Hayden Drops F-Bombs for John McCain"

Edit - OMG I mean Richie!

OOPS !

Colette Meiji · 10-15-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bard Jameson

/affects Butthead voice...

"Heh heh heheh! She said 'fuck'".

I dunno the when she said it was kinda funny since evidently his affair was with a Washington Lobbyist?

Jessica Robertson · 10-15-2008, 04:38 PM

Yes, but you can read thread titles

edit to add:
GD it Colette

Serenity · 10-15-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Arilynn

I didn't watch the video. I have no idea who this person is. I have never watched "Heroes".

But to me the person who seems to care the most in a serious way about this person's opinion appears to be...Serenity.

why the fuck do I bother?

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Originally Posted by Jacqueline

Even worse when they feel they are qualified for Governor or even.... <gasp> President.

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Originally Posted by Cindy

I normally would agree with this a great deal, Serenity.

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Originally Posted by Cris

No, a celebrity's opinion is not more important than any other,

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Originally Posted by Trout

I agree, too, Serenity. I don't give them any more credibility than any other random person on the street unless I have seen that they have some actual knowledge.

Shit this thread can't even make up it's mind if she's serious or not!

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Originally Posted by Madu

I think she should be applauded for using the fact that people know who she is and will stop to listen to what she has to say to make a statement she believes in.

You don't have to listen, and you don't have to agree. But to criticize Hayden for trying to use her fame to support social change is, in my opinion, wrong-headed.

VS

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Originally Posted by Vengence

somebody needs to hit your funny bone with a mallet.

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Originally Posted by Richie

if this was a serious video.....

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Originally Posted by Cindy

Such is not the case with this video. It comes across as funny, lampooning, and parody-like. I loved it.

So before you make this all about "oh Serenity the local kill joy hates people that disagree with her" how about you get your ducks in a row and stop fucking telling me what I think, k?

Serenity

Cristiano · 10-15-2008, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arilynn

I didn't watch the video. I have no idea who this person is. I have never watched "Heroes".

But to me the person who seems to care the most in a serious way about this person's opinion appears to be...Serenity.

Hi, I'm Hayden Panettiere
and I'm hot enough that I know I have your attention for at least 30 seconds.

There are three things I think all citizens should do:
Smoke cigarettes
Vote for John McCain
and don't wear a seatbelt

A vote for McCain is a vote against change.

He'll keep tax breaks for the rich, start another war, and we'll all probably die.

He's just like George Bush, except older and with a worse temper.

Let's vote for John McCain and stay the course.

Don't switch horses midstream. Get an older horse that would take 12 years to cross that stream cause he's old

John McCain: he's had affairs with lobbyists so you'll get fucked and he'll get fucked.

Everybody wins.

Nobody fucks with John McCain!

Jessica Robertson · 10-15-2008, 04:41 PM

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So before you make this all about "oh Serenity the local kill joy hates people that disagree with her" how about you get your ducks in a row and stop fucking telling me what I think, k?

I think you're mad... ammi rite?

New thread title: Serenity drops f-bomb about McCain thread!

Damn... I should work for Fox

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Madhu Maruti Blue in hue Kickin' it at the cafe Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 514 SL Join Date: Nov 2007 Business: Madhu's Cafe My Mood:	One of my personal heroes is an Indian actor and activist named Shabana Azmi. She is "just" an actor - actually just one of the most highly regarded and acclaimed actors in the world - but she also has served in Parliament (in an appointed seat rather than an elected one) and is a very earnest and hardworking activist for a variety of progressive causes. I know people have a tendency to dismiss political activism from celebrities, and sometimes Shabana Azmi's critics do too. Sure, her opinion is no more right than anyone else's. But she feels she has a responsibility to use her work and her fame to promote social change that she sincerely believes in. "Art should be an instrument for social change" is how she puts it. And really, isn't it better, in some ways, for celebrities to leverage their fame for causes they believe are just and right, than to leverage it to make millions hawking soap or makeup? We attack celebrities for being sell-outs when they do commercials, and we attack them for being full of themselves when they engage in sincere activism. Wow, society sure is hard on the people it puts on pedestals. I'm not saying that Hayden Panettiere's cute little commercial (which is cute, and is funny) is the same as Shabana Azmi serving in parliament or hunger-striking for the rights of slum-dwellers displaced by urban development. But Shabana Azmi is 35 years older than Hayden Panettiere and a whole hell of a lot more famous and influential (in some parts of the world). So Shabana's work certainly has more gravitas than Hayden's cute snarky video. But Hayden's heart is in the same place - and I think she should be applauded for using the fact that people know who she is and will stop to listen to what she has to say to make a statement she believes in. You don't have to listen, and you don't have to agree. But to criticize Hayden for trying to use her fame to support social change is, in my opinion, wrong-headed. __________________ Visit Madhu's Cafe - coffee house in the sky - hang out, chat, fish, enjoy the sounds of classic Bollywood and occasional world music parties - NEW! at Madhu's - watch Bollywood song videos on TV - http://slurl.com/secondlife/Milyang/39/16/701/

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