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Old 10-11-2008, 11:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Creation Museum draws big crowds

I know this place has been talked about here in the past, but this is sort of an update on the situation.

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LOUISVILLE, Ky. - The museum exhibits are taken from the Old Testament, but the special effects are pure Hollywood: a state-of-the-art planetarium, animatronics and a massive model of Noah's Ark, all intended to explain the origins of the universe from a biblical viewpoint.

The Creation Museum, which teaches life's beginnings through a literal interpretation of the Bible, is claiming attendance figures that would make it an unexpectedly strong draw less than a year and a half after it debuted. More than a half-million people have toured the Kentucky attraction since its May 2007 opening, museum officials said.

For creationists — Christians who believe the Bible's first chapter of Genesis is the literal telling of the universe's start — the museum is a godsend. Many have returned with family and friends, some from faraway states arguing it's one of the few with a Christian worldview.
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"We're depressed, I think," said Dan Phelps, head of the Kentucky Paleontology Society, who toured the museum shortly after its opening. "There's been such a push in recent years to improve science education, but stuff like this still hangs around."
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I've heard great things about this exhibit. While devoid of any scientific credibility, I hear it's a fun time.

I'd go if I were in the area.
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Old 10-11-2008, 11:38 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm sure the museum would give lots of lulz to those with critical thinking capabilities.
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I've heard great things about this exhibit. While devoid of any scientific credibility, I hear it's a fun time.

I'd go if I were in the area.
I'd go too, but I would probably end up pissing off the True Believers because I would be laughing so much.
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I'm wondering how many of their visitors are just curious and want to see the freak show.
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I wonder if Creationism would be so big over there if Darwin was American.
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It all goes back to before the US was even a country. Back in the 1500's the puritans (and other religious minorities) came here to escape oppression in Europe. Their ultra conservative mores still linger to this day because of that.
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It all goes back to before the US was even a country. Back in the 1500's the puritans (and other religious minorities) came here to escape oppression in Europe. Their ultra conservative mores still linger to this day because of that.
This sounds about right to me. Given that the vast majority of people adopt the religious beliefs of their parents, it would seem no surprise that the descendants of folks who would sacrifice everything they had and risk their very lives for the free practice of their religion would turn out to be a very religious people.

It worked as a kind of migratory selection process, but rather than for genetics it was for ideas.
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Heritage USA opened in 1978, and by 1986 was one of the top vacation destinations in the nation, behind only Walt Disney World and Disneyland, attracting nearly 6 million visitors annually and employing more than 2,000 people. However, after Jim Bakker's legal and personal troubles made headlines starting in 1987, Heritage USA closed.
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It all goes back to before the US was even a country. Back in the 1500's the puritans (and other religious minorities) came here to escape oppression in Europe. Their ultra conservative mores still linger to this day because of that.
I think you mean the 17th century, correct? The Spanish and French had colonies in the 1500s, but they were hardly fleeing religious oppression back home. The first English colony was the doomed Roanoke, but that was a commerical enterprise, as was the first successful English colony, Jamestown.

I know that the "fled to escape religious persecution" meme is the standard story we hand American children, but the truth is more complicated than that. The Plymouth pilgrims were hardly fleeing persecution when they left the Netherlands, they just were afraid that their children were becoming too secular/Dutch (Amsterdam back then being akin to...well, Amsterdam)

One can make a better case for the the Massachusetts Bay colony set leaving because their Calvinistic beliefs were not appreciated in England. But one could also make a very good case that such measures were understandable on the part of the crown--after all, a few decades later England and Scotland were plunged into the Bishop's War and the English Civil War, with unpleasant results for Charles the Second.

And the Virginia colonies were largely populated by Royalists fleeing from the OTHER side of the ECW. They didn't get on with the northern Puritans at all, and in fact during the ECW period they came into armed conflict with each other (I forget the name of the battle, military history isn't really my thing)

The one group that really could be said to be seeking religious freedom was the Society of Friends (Quakers). Charles II seems to have liked them, despite the fact that almost no one else did (Puritans in the New World would hang Quakers they found preaching on property), and granted them Pennsylvania.

And let's not forget the deported criminals, like the fictional Moll Flanders (who did well for herself in the end, one must say)

In short, the 17th had multiple immigration waves of completely non-homogeneous groups of people with widely different reasons for coming over to the New World. Many did come for religious reasons, but much of the story of the Founding Fathers can be traced back to 19th century myth making.

(Hmmm....sorry, not sure what sparked that overlong essay. Probably work avoidance )
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Unfortunately I do.

When I was in college part of my mis spent time was with a
comedy improv group.

A skit we had written and performed was a game show spoof where you could win an all expense paid trip to Holy Land Amusement park.

"Where you can ride the Exodus the world's longest amusement ride".

We had a hardly laugh and said "yeah right that would never happen"

Years pass, one morning half asleep I turn on the tube and there it was. PTL Theme Park, AKA Holy Land Amusement park.

You would not believe the sense of shock and even awe I experienced at seeing that.

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