Merovigan

Pass.

I'll stick to the stated numbers - 16%, on average.

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Merovigan

And what is your recommendation to that nice white guy? Should he continue to give money to the panhandler he lives with?

I rest my case.

CrossingStyx

Rich was what I meant. And no, but I was just refuting your statement that the peopel in houses were contributing.

CrossingStyx

Don't forget to update that number for the Freegans. That's a mental illness if I ever saw one.

Lucifer Baphomet

Gotta disagree with you Mero.

Massive increases of mentally ill homeless people are a direct result of "care in the community" programs.

Closures of long term hospitals on both sides of the atlantic have led to huge numbers of mentally ill people on the streets.

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CrossingStyx

Which, at least on this side of the ocean, usually end up getting concentrated in certain areas due to some states relocating them (so they don't freeze over the winter). But that's all homeless, not just the mentally ill.

Jessica Robertson

Write that down in your notebook... remember to bring that little gem out and read it when you are retired and have to spend your life savings on medical costs and can no longer work.

Isablan Neva

A closed mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Colette Meiji

Guess its a good thing Mero is an Atheist

He posts like someone who has no soul.

Travis Lambert

CrossingStyx

I hope not, otherwise this lein is worthless...

Maureen Boccaccio

Merovigan

That's what life savings are for.

jacqueline trudeau

back on topic ....

Postponing the P debate also means postponing the VP debate. Thus giving operation "the rain in spain" more breathing room. That's what this is all about, IMO.

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CrossingStyx

This is just one of those things that I really want to give positive motives to, because that would be awesome. The problem is, I can't. No matter which why I dice it, this whole things smells rotten. And Obama's return shot was fucking fantastic.

Bard Jameson

Back off topic -- Nothing written after my post about percentages of mentally ill homeless, the number of them anyone faces in a day, how distruptive they are, how much the offer in exchange like a song, etc - none of that speaks to what I wrote. Don't have the time for due dilligence, but just one note:

I choose to give, or not to give, period. I do not presume that I know better than the beggar how to spend what I give. I'm not looking to build up Heaven Points or anything like that. All I'm doing is giving him the same respect I'd give anyone I passed in the street - I am not giving him pity, or derision, nor am I romanticizing his condition in macro-social terms, nor using his plight as reason to be thankful for my fortune (although that creeps in), nor as reason to consider myself in any way superior.

If I give, I give, and let him pass on. I can barely understand the direction signs on my own road. I cannot tell him how to find his way.

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CrossingStyx

I've had a number of violent/borderline violent run-ins with homeless people, regardless of mental stability through one of my jobs, so I pretty much just avoid them, but if you've had positive experiences and it keeps you happy, why shouldn't you do it?

Siyu Suen

That's wonderful that you can just give, no strings attached, and not worry about it after the fact. That must be a feeling of security and wealth, to have enough to not worry. But its in my nature to be very attentive of where every cent I spend goes. Even on SL, I am always thinking about how much time and love the creator put into their work, how much I'll wear it, if I can give it to someone else, and even if it's less than a dollar in Lindens, I still weigh it in my mind. Weighing the savings at a sale in a department store or in small second hand stores, buying CD's or songs online, I'm always thinking about where my money is going. I don't make exceptions to the money I give to others or the gifts I buy my friends. If it costs me twenty dollars to buy a necklace for someone, I want to know they'll wear it, and if I give a dollar or two to someone on the street, I want to know they'll use it to better themselves, rather than throwing it away on drugs.

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jacqueline trudeau

back on topic again (damn you Bard! ) .....

It's on! Though it may be a solo act.

Sooz Pascale

Not going to the debate is a very serious and foolish mistake by the McCain campaign. His campaign is in trouble and this just makes it worse.

Sooz

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hope Antonelli

Which are back tied today at 46% according to Rasmussun..polls are such fickle things..especially if you pick the slanted ones.

jacqueline trudeau

Yes, the slanted ones are those that have my candidate behind.

Jessica Robertson

Holy Crap, there are 155 viewing offtopic

Cocoanut Koala

Well, it's not all that cut and dried.

Life savings can be wiped out by a bad economy, and wiped out by medical expenses. And may not be that much in the first place, unless you have had high-paying jobs, or if you had kids or various financial setbacks, etc.

We don't always have control over everything. Or, there could be a bad divorce and so forth. Put simply, life isn't necessarily financially easy for old people, even if they did everything right and planned as well as they could.

coco

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You heard it here first: Serenity's prediction:

McCain will show. IT will be at the last possible minute that he arrives but he'll be on stage.

As the debate goes on, Obama will get a question on some thing in Iraq. He'll talk for about 4 minutes and spout all kinds of statisitcs and numbers and figures and come off like he spent all last week mastering the numbers of war.

Then McCain will smile, chuckle and say "look, I don't have a bunch of frilly numbers memorized to make my case. I was busy in Washington saving the economy with the rest of the Senate while my opponent here was reviewing his notes. But here's what I don't need to study: We need to......"

And then he'll sound like a guy that fires from the hip, does what he needs to do first, and what he wants to do second and so on.

I expect there'll be a few jabs about how much he 'would have liked to stay on the campiagn trail' but that it's always been 'country first'. Or maybe even a "as much as I want to be president, I'm not going to sacrifice my duty to the People as a Senator just to make some campaign stops."

Assuming of course that some kind of bill is passed with his name on it within the next 24 hours.

Oh, and it's not like the news outlets aren't going to be talking about WHERE McCain is if he's not at the debates. He'll get a message out one way or another.

Serenity

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