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Kristian · 09-24-2008, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cristiano

What next, suspend the election?

That's the worry that gives me nightmares.

**Cristiano** · 09-24-2008, 04:27 PM

I had to post this headline for good measure just because it makes me laugh:

Bob Cesca: McCain's Economic Plan: Blurt Out Random Crap

Colette Meiji · 09-24-2008, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cristiano

As the Huffington Post points out, the only thing that has changed in the past 48 hours are the polling numbers:

McCain Wants A Time Out -- But Why?

So he wants a momentum breaker?

That would make sense.. neither candidate would want the other to build up lasting support.

**Cristiano** · 09-24-2008, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristian

That's the worry that gives me nightmares.

Didn't Bush slip through something that he could suspend elections in time of national emergency?

Richie Waves · 09-24-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cristiano

Didn't Bush slip through something that he could suspend elections in time of national emergency?

Directive 51

Asher Bertrand · 09-24-2008, 04:41 PM

Riots in the streets. Srsly. It would be a stupid stupid move.

**Io Zeno** · 09-24-2008, 04:44 PM

OMG THE PLAN IS COMING TOGETHER.

Richie Waves · 09-24-2008, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Asher Bertrand

Riots in the streets. Srsly. It would be a stupid stupid move.

The same Executive Directive introduces martial law also.. problem solved..

Colette Meiji · 09-24-2008, 04:44 PM

Would never Hold Up in the Supreme Court.

Bush would end up on trial for treason.

Asher Bertrand · 09-24-2008, 04:45 PM

Only if you think the people in the military would fire on their fellow citizens. I don't think they would.

Colette Meiji · 09-24-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Asher Bertrand

Only if you think the people in the military would fire on their fellow citizens. I don't think they would.

Bush would also have to suspend Congress somehow

Since they literally could impeach him in a matter of hours.

Richie Waves · 09-24-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Colette Meiji

Would never Hold Up in the Supreme Court.

Bush would end up on trial for treason.

After the fact, maybe, but all power is shifted to the executive under those circumstances... supreme court?

jacqueline trudeau · 09-24-2008, 04:49 PM

Bush has had it, just (barely) going through the motions now. He wants the fuck out of there ... yesterday.

Colette Meiji · 09-24-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Richie Waves

After the fact, maybe, but all power is shifted to the executive under those circumstances... supreme court?

Congress would impeach him, The "Directive 51" would go to the Supreme Court and be stricken down.

The penalty for Treason is Death; its spelled out in the Constitution.

Bush gets executed.

Unless Bush could get the Military to continue to follow him and not the Congress .. that is how it would go down.

There is no provision for suspending elections in the Constitution .. it would require an amendment, not just some law like the Patriot Act.

Asher Bertrand · 09-24-2008, 04:51 PM

Heh, this whole turn of the discussion is making me think of Caesar. Only, people liked him. But, you know, we do have steps to the senate building...

**Bard Jameson** · 09-24-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Richie Waves

Directive 51

A little touch of irony to lighten the news cycle...

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National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive
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"Directive 51" redirects here. Directive 51 can also refer to Hitler's order for the fortification of the Atlantic Wall.

<--- laughing so I don't cry

Oh, and on the point itself:

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The directive specifies that, following such an emergency, an "Enduring Constitutional Government", comprising "a cooperative effort among the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the Federal Government," coordinated by the President of the United States, will take the place of the nation's regular government, presumably without the oversight of Congress.[4] Conservative activist Jerome Corsi and Marjorie Cohn of the National Lawyers Guild have interpreted this as a break from Constitutional law in that the three branches of government are equal, with no single branch coordinating the others.[5][6] The directive specifies that the president has the power to declare a catastrophic emergency and does not specify who has the power to declare the emergency over.

So it is possible that questions regarding impeachment of a president for violating the Constitution may be rendered moot.

ETA: And what might be construed as such an emergency, you may well ask?

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Such an emergency is construed as "any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions." [1]

We now return you to your regularly scheduled life

Richie Waves · 09-24-2008, 05:09 PM

Was going to point out the Hitler link, but said I'd leave it

**Bard Jameson** · 09-24-2008, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Richie Waves

Was going to point out the Hitler link, but said I'd leave it

I'm taking one for the team, then. You owe me Richie!

That's only an oblique Godwin anyway, isn't it? Sorta like a body check the ref doesn't see?

Isablan Neva · 09-24-2008, 05:15 PM

The thing is, that when you cry "WOLF" and say that the bailout must be passed or the world will end tomorrow and here it is 5 days later and the world has not ended, you start looking a little foolish.

Also - huge mistake by McCain to use the language "suspended campaign." Just about everyone associates that phrase with a candidate publicly announcing that they are basically out of the race. He should have found some other way to convey that idea without using words that mean something so drastic.

I just took a gander at the some of the right-leaning sites and they are split 50/50 on whether McCain is totally off the deep end or crazy like a fox.

Pol · 09-24-2008, 05:24 PM

How did this campaign get so weird?

Lecktor Hannibal · 09-24-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pol

How did this campaign get so weird?

Get?

Pol · 09-24-2008, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lecktor Hannibal

Get?

At one time the McCain/Obama matchup was anticipated to be a civil discourse on the issues with little negativity. Seems like ages ago...

Richie Waves · 09-24-2008, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pol

At one time the McCain/Obama matchup was anticipated to be a civil discourse on the issues with little negativity. Seems like ages ago...

After witnessing 04 campaign slack jawed I never for a moment believed the republicans would play nice..

Pol · 09-24-2008, 05:37 PM

Obama: "This is exactly the time" for a debate

Maureen Boccaccio · 09-24-2008, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bard Jameson

I'm taking one for the team, then. You owe me Richie!

That's only an oblique Godwin anyway, isn't it? Sorta like a body check the ref doesn't see?

So...I shouldn't whip off my pants and wave them in salute?

09-24-2008, 04:41 PM	#31 (permalink)
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Asher Bertrand Dead Guy Creaking watermelons Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 6,701 My Mood: Blog Entries: 2	Heh, this whole turn of the discussion is making me think of Caesar. Only, people liked him. But, you know, we do have steps to the senate building...

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Richie Waves Joie de vivre! Is Three apples Tall Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Between Iraq and Israel Posts: 8,992 SL Join Date: 27/06/2005	Was going to point out the Hitler link, but said I'd leave it

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Isablan Neva Bohemian in Paradise Eggs Benedict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: California: we do disasters right! Posts: 1,736 My Mood: SLShopper Ads: 2 SL Join Date: November, 2004 Business: Sky Dreams, Tenth Muse Furniture	The thing is, that when you cry "WOLF" and say that the bailout must be passed or the world will end tomorrow and here it is 5 days later and the world has not ended, you start looking a little foolish. Also - huge mistake by McCain to use the language "suspended campaign." Just about everyone associates that phrase with a candidate publicly announcing that they are basically out of the race. He should have found some other way to convey that idea without using words that mean something so drastic. I just took a gander at the some of the right-leaning sites and they are split 50/50 on whether McCain is totally off the deep end or crazy like a fox.

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Pol Prim hair is for sissies. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: the Davis Square neighborhood of Somerville, Massachusetts Posts: 681 My Mood: SL Join Date: December 18, 2003 Business: Habitabla	How did this campaign get so weird?

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