Richie Waves

That says what I meant just fine.

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My lastfm

Oooh, Betty! the cat did a shit in the hat

Lucifer Baphomet

Blackwater will take over this thread to provide secutity for Haliburton contractors to replace it's infrastructure at inflated prices.
Please co operate fully with them.
Looters rioters and people in the wrong place at the wrong time, or whom they don't like the look of will be shot.

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Tyche Shepherd

Sometimes I wonder if I'm on ignore for everyone in this thread

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Serenity

Agree 100%.

I bolded the important part to me. Past a certain point. The great debate is where that point is. I know people who consider at traffic stop to be an invasion of privacy. I know people who think cops should check ID's randomly of all drivers past a check point.

It's all about balance.

Serenity

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Merovigan

Feds raid Blackwater armory - Crime & courts - MSNBC.com

Right, but I think they DID NOT have that there and that is why they were busted.

Hey, I think it should be cheaper and easier to own fully automatic weapons.

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Psyke Phaeton

This is true but as technology progresses 1 person can kill larger and larger amounts of people more easily. At what point are you forced to become proactive rather than reactive. It's the choice between arresting the person after they set off the suitcase nuke vs before they set off the suitcase nuke. I have no answer.

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Cindy Claveau

I get it just fine. But apparently you don't even read your own links:

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Surreal

One of these days you'll be able to reply to a post or provide clarification without acting like an asshole. I await that day.

Does the "Northern Command" really make it that much different? What do you think the 7th Cavalry was doing?

Now.. if your concern is the Posse Comitatus Act which prohibits members of the Army, Air Force, and National Guard (if in federal service) from exercising police or law enforcement powers on non-federal property, then you would be addressing only the part of the deployment dealing with martial law.

So... have you written your Congressman and Senator?

Do ya get it? Or do you only talk about it.

Merovigan

Wow...I mean...just...wow!

Merovigan

Ahh, I love the twist...from "Nuh uh!" To "Well, what are you going to do about it?"

Clever!

And yes, "Northern Command" does make a difference.

And no, I doubt I will EVER be able to make a point without sounding like an asshole. It's just who I am.

Brave Republic

I cringe when I think of all the beatiful and collectible military firearms destroyed in UK and Australia. All those webleys and Martini henry's that didnt get surplus ssaled to US buyers , just crushed and melted.

Even Canda has a finite amount of full auto owners as they stopped allowing new opnes a while back.

See what europeans fail to realize is thos of us willing to spend the $, abide by the rules and pass the background checks are not the problem.

The people that are the problem would continue to be able to buy their wepaons illegally no matter how many laws you pass to feel good.

With a name like Brave Republic did you think I could be anything else? LOL

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RandoymRandt

...it was actually the "shock and awe" part that nailed it for me.

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Colette Meiji

Did Mero even watch the Video?

Its very carefully crafted ..

She very strongly implies that this is something very unprecedented and doesn't get to the Northern Command disclaimer until 35 seconds in ... Of the 50 second video.

Its slanted as propaganda.

Colette Meiji

I agree.

You being an asshole is just who you are.

Surreal

So why does it make a difference? The military and national guard have always been available for assistance during emergencies. They were filling sand bags the last time the Mississippi massively flooded, for example.

The only difference would be that there would be a unit equipped and trained specifically for dealing with rescue operations, national disasters, and urban policing.

What do you think would happen right now if someone blew away Baltimore with a fuel-air bomb? Do you really think that the closest military facilities wouldn't scramble to help rescue people, assist with containment, and maintain order? Along with every other kind of responder?

The issue is how will the unit be used. And that resides in the executive. Don't kid yourself. The abuses you're worried about could easily be done with any National Guard unit, or even the police.

So yes... if this really worries you, what are you doing about it? Anyone can say PROBLEM!! What are your solutions?

RandoymRandt

O shit and I thought it was bad in that other rambling thread going on tonight.

It's 5:15 AM, I'm off to bed...

Brave Republic

Hmmm that was one way to get them cheaper. Many dealers gave extreme discounts for law enforcement departments.

Looks like BR was looking for a loophole. This one will need to be defended in court--IE were they contracted by the sheriff's dept that "owned" them to do training. Do they need to be locked up at the sheriff's actual facilities or can they be locked up at a training facility on behalf of the sheriff etc.

Very grey but not necessarily illegal until we get a ruling in the case.

Richie Waves

Man I'd love to see the reaction of some here if this story was about another country...

Merovigan

Year 1? Nothing...that's just setting up...year 2...3...maybe even 4? Again, nothing, except for drilling and some work.

It's year 5+ that scares me as the unit must justify its existance, paycheck and value-added. This is ALL this unit does - it will get bored and look for "extra" things to do.

I kid myself then because I do think that things are harder to hide in the police and National Guard units. Beyond the fact that both of these are controlled locally or at the state level. I DO NOT trust the feds.
Moving when I can or "must". Your solutions are yours, I'm out for me and mine.

jacqueline trudeau

When that did happen, in downtown Manhattan, in the aftermath of 9/11, I did show him my papers. Constitutional? Probably hell no. But it shows what a fearful populace will be asked to do.

There better be a f*ing good reason to go through that again.

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Quimby Rothschild

It's according to what country...some desperately need it!

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Surreal

So to clarify, you're paranoid and although you like to bitch, you don't have a stake in our country's survival and aren't going to do anything other than flee.

Surreal

Colette Meiji

http://www.amazon.com/13-Seconds-Look-State-Shootings/dp/1596090804



You do kid yourself.

Serenity

And if there were a good F*ing reason, would you?

Good reason being say, Giant's Stadium goes up in a mushroom cloud.

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