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Cocoanut Koala

There is such a thing, and there are plenty of bad parents.

Parents who work, though, don't form a category of bad parents, or even a category of "mostly bad parents."

And though there are downsides to having parents who work, it isn't exactly something the kids have to "go through" and then hope tp turn out okay "in the end."

My childhood was fine throughout.

coco

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Fmeh

I agree completely. Yes. Thanks for the clarification.

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Io Zeno

Fmeh, unless you had this experience yourself as a child, you honestly don't know what you are talking about.

I never felt neglected because I had to let myself in, in fact, it makes me laugh it's so absurd.

I didn't grow up in some suburban lifestyle.

Fmeh

I have---err... had the wrong definition in my head of Latch Key kids. The term I guess I meant to use was absentee parents.

Me stupid.

Io Zeno

And did you even read Surreal's post about her mother?

Who was around "all the time" and miserable and depressed and probably would have been a better mother and a happier person if she had some life outside the house?

You are creating some fantasy where present parents are good parents and parents that have to be out of the house are bad.

Colette Meiji

Because the implication is that because Gov. Palin doesn't have that perfect parenting situation she is a bad mother .. and thus not qualified to be Vice President.

Fmeh

You're right. Abusive parents that are never home are better left anyplace than home.

If my grandmother had been gone a lot when I was a kid, I'm sure I'd be a more stable person. Problem was, my mother was gone A LOT, trying to date people and going horseback riding and skiing to try to get her life back after my dad died from a brain tumor and I was LEFT with my abusive controlling grandmother.

Fmeh

Okay.

Tyche Shepherd

I was a latch door kid from 11 or 12 onwards - including looking after my younger brother (8 or 9) for a few hours - there were neighbours who knew who I could call on if I wanted and to be honest it gave me independence and I valued it greatly and still do , My brother probably hated me bossing him around however .

Of course my parents weren't perfect - but I would never have traded them for anyone else.

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Cocoanut Koala

It was my FATHER who was never there. I never knew my father, until I was 15.

And I don't think of that as particularly "sad" either.

But my mother was there. She just worked.

coco

Io Zeno

So the problem here was you had a mother who was neglecting you not because of work but because of her own personal problems and left you with someone who was abusive. Do you see how little of this has to do with working mothers or parents and a lot to do with the individuals in the situation? Which is what we are trying to say, making broad brush statements about parents isn't right unless you know the situation.

Io Zeno

Once I found out about my father I was glad he wasn't around, frankly.

Fmeh

The fact that I can still somehow imagine her (my mother) as a good parent seems to be an issue here.... oddly enough, I really hadn't confronted that issue in my head yet.... I always put the blame on my grandmother. Man I wish I could afford counseling... EDIT: Well, when she WAS home she was a good parent. She took us camping and to the Science Center and let us be creative.

Fmeh

Yeay--my post stopped the thread....

Io Zeno

I have to eat too, yah know.

Surreal Farber

Hyperbole:
A figure of speech in which exaggeration is used for emphasis or effect.

You still haven't answered why you think a VP wouldn't be with their children.

Surreal Farber

Fmeh,

The reason people beat the crap out of your for your judgments is because you don't seem able to see the biases or wrong assumptions in your chain of reasoning, even when people put up a billboard with flashing lights.

Again with the assumptions. You've now equated latch-key kids with "parents who are seldom home." I suppose that's an improvement on "never home" of your previous argument.

Dancien Graves

When my mother was home it was because she was sleeping after working 14 hour night shifts 6 days a week so she could support us. If that's abusive then you may be an idiot.

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Surreal Farber

Because you're trying to impose your ideal, which is based in a whole bunch of fuzzy emotions instead of reality, on other people. The child parent equation isn't a cookie-cutter, one-size fits all - not even inside the same family. If you had kids, maybe you'd have an inkling (although it's not helping Mero much, but check back in 10 years).

The only ideal parenting situation is to have good parents.

Merovigan

Laughable..yes, the parent/child relationship isn't cookie cutter and so, we must accept all the variety of parenting styles, including the ones where you hire a professional to do the job for you while you go do what you want to do.

Abdicating your responsibilities for your own desires makes you a bad parent. Period. Think otherwise if you need to do so, but it's my opinion. Yeah, I get that sometimes you must hire professionals because otherwise you wouldn't be able to make ends meet, but Palin hiring professionals while she goes and runs the country, leaving her 2 year old outside of her immediate care disgusts me.

But, I'm just judgmental like that ;-)

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