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Markubis · 09-02-2008, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Fmeh

I was so happy to read about her daughter's pregnancy. I know I shouldn't be happy about it, but I am. A HUGE wrench in McCain's campaign is a HUGE wrench in McCain's campaign, and that's enough to make a LOT of people very happy. I'm not happy for her daughter--I feel really sorry for her daughter, mainly because of who she has to put up with for a mom, and I feel sorry for the kid-to-be as well unless the child is given up for adoption where it could have a chance of growing up in a family that isn't completely fucked up. The daughter will probably not have a chance to raise the child herself nor will she probably be prepared to raise a child.

But sorry, even when looking at her daughter's situation, I still laugh--I laugh when I see SO many of the people who are trying to push that whole "holiness" crap end up seeing reality slap them in the face (usually republicans) in an almost brutal manner in the public eye. It's enough to make just about anyone happy, except for those who peddle that holiness crap and those that desperately want McCain to win.

It's like watching Brainy Smurf get tossed on his head after bragging for several minutes.

Obama's mother was 18 when she had Barack.

Richie Waves · 09-02-2008, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Barack

I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people’s families are off limits, and people’s children are especially off limits. This shouldn’t be part of our politics, it has no relevance to governor Palin’s performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know my mother had me when she was 18. And how family deals with issues and teenage children that shouldn’t be the topic of our politics and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that is off limits.

Fmeh · 09-02-2008, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mereille

17 and pregnant is nothing to laugh at. Ever. Even with her advantages, she has such a hard road ahead of her.

Now..if you want something to laugh at, last night Campbell Brown on CNN tried to get Tucker Bounds to explain Palin's national security experience. I do get a kick out of watching someone like Tucker Bounds squirm about questions he doesn't want to answer.

YouTube - Tucker Bounds on Palin's National Security Experience

I'm not laughing at that. I'm laughing because Sarah Palin has had a slice of reality slapped in her face and because McCain now has a huge wrench thrown in his campaign.

I already said I feel sorry for the daughter. I was saying that despite how terrible the situation is for her daughter, I need to laugh at the irony of Sarah's speeches and McCain's campaign.

Mereille · 09-02-2008, 09:05 AM

Another thing I find funny.

Mrs. Palin apparently acquired much of her 'executive' experience here:

Richie Waves · 09-02-2008, 09:14 AM

Choice cut from this

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..as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast." The librarian, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire her for not giving "full support" to the mayor.

Surreal · 09-02-2008, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Colette Meiji

probably Biden's wife for starters.

He's a widower, just so you know.

Kendra Bancroft · 09-02-2008, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Surreal Farber

He's a widower, just so you know.

He's a widower who has a wife named Jill, that he's been married to for the last 30 years.

His first wife died in '72 I believe.

Richie Waves · 09-02-2008, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Kendra Bancroft

He's a widower who has a wife named Jill, that he's been married to for the last 30 years.

His first wife died in '72 I believe.

Yea, shes a real smart lady too.. an English Professor!

Markubis · 09-02-2008, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mereille

Another thing I find funny.

Mrs. Palin apparently acquired much of her 'executive' experience here:

I guess if Wasilla Town Hall was a grandiose building, you would have something bad to say about that also?

Lourdes · 09-02-2008, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mereille

Another thing I find funny.

Mrs. Palin apparently acquired much of her 'executive' experience here:

Carville said it looked like a bake shop.

Of course many women were offended.

So the VP hopeful who believes in abstinence only sex ed, has a preggers teenage daughter. Well isn't that special.

Palin's teen daughter is pregnant - CNN.com

Surreal · 09-02-2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Colette Meiji

I think some people might be confusing Fundie for Catholic.

Protestants are not against Birth Control, the Fundies just don't want unmarried people having sex. Thus the abstinence for teens thing.

You can't really lump all fundamentalist into one camp in this country on any issue.

There are evangelicals who don't believe in contraception regardless of marital status. If you want to feel slightly ill, I suggest checking these folks out. QuiverFull.

Mereille · 09-02-2008, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Markubis

I guess if Wasilla Town Hall was a grandiose building, you would have something bad to say about that also?

Nope. But when a major talking point is how she has more 'executive' experience than Obama, the quality of that experience certainly comes into play.

Richie Waves · 09-02-2008, 09:45 AM

And in a lot of peoples eyes, a traitor!

this Alaskan independent party story could be huge.. both her and her hubby where members!

Cindy Claveau · 09-02-2008, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Richie Waves

Choice cut from this

..as mayor, Palin continued to inject religious beliefs into her policy at times. "She asked the library how she could go about banning books," he says, because some voters thought they had inappropriate language in them. "The librarian was aghast." The librarian, Mary Ellen Baker, couldn't be reached for comment, but news reports from the time show that Palin had threatened to fire her for not giving "full support" to the mayor.

I suppose it's too much to ask that she had read the books first before trying to ban them.

Starting with "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich".

Surreal · 09-02-2008, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Fmeh

I was so happy to read about her daughter's pregnancy. I know I shouldn't be happy about it, but I am. A HUGE wrench in McCain's campaign is a HUGE wrench in McCain's campaign, and that's enough to make a LOT of people very happy.

I wish this was true, but my guess is that it will cement support among the evangelical right who will view this as hard evidence of Palin's pro-life stance.

Mereille · 09-02-2008, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Richie Waves

Yea, shes a real smart lady too.. an English Professor!

With all of teh dramaz surrounding the other candidates, boring can be good.

Looking at Biden's personal history, he seems like a level headed, steadfast, sturdy, dependable man.

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His wife and infant daughter died in a car accident shortly after he was first elected to the Senate in 1972. His two sons, Beau and Hunter, were seriously injured in the accident, but both eventually made full recoveries. Biden was sworn into office from their bedside. Persuaded not to resign in order to care for them, Biden began the practice of commuting an hour and a half each day on the train from his home in the Wilmington suburbs to Washington, D.C., which he continues to do.

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[Biden] has a net worth between $59,000 and $366,000, not much for the millionaire's club known as the Senate.

"He's still one of the poorest members of the Senate," said Anita Dunn, a senior advisor to Obama's campaign. "He came to Washington to do good, not to do well for himself."

I'll take *that* kind of boring any day. Hell, if Jill doesn't want him, send him my way.

Richie Waves · 09-02-2008, 09:54 AM

I can barley imagine a man in his position jumping on the train every day to get to work.. its bizarre..

Surreal · 09-02-2008, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kendra Bancroft

He's a widower who has a wife named Jill, that he's been married to for the last 30 years.

His first wife died in '72 I believe.

My bad... I thought he hadn't remarried. You can see how much I keep up with his personal life.

Maybe Colette could send her a note and ask about the boring thing.

Mereille · 09-02-2008, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Richie Waves

I can barley imagine a man in his position jumping on the train every day to get to work.. its bizarre..

And his wife is an educator. But not some high-fallutin' Ivy League professor.

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Since 1993, Biden has been a professor of English at the Stanton/Wilmington campus of Delaware Technical & Community College. There she teaches English composition, with an emphasis towards instilling confidence in students.

Community College. That's a far cry from Mrs. I-own-7-houses. Heck, *I've* taught courses at a community college before!

Kendra Bancroft · 09-02-2008, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Richie Waves

I can barley imagine a man in his position jumping on the train every day to get to work.. its bizarre..

He rides the 1st class luxury train called the "Acela".

It costs him about $1,000 a month.

I wouldn't call a 90 minute train ride in relative luxury each way a huge sacrifice. He probably gets ripped on scotch on his ride home as they have an excellent bar-car.

Richie Waves · 09-02-2008, 10:02 AM

Compared to helicopter rides and chauffeur driven limos 1k a month is a pittins..

Kendra Bancroft · 09-02-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mereille

Nope. But when a major talking point is how she has more 'executive' experience than Obama, the quality of that experience certainly comes into play.

You do realize she's a GOVERNOR now --right?

**Cristiano** · 09-02-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Markubis

I guess if Wasilla Town Hall was a grandiose building, you would have something bad to say about that also?

Uh huh, we would have wondered why a town of only 9,000 with a figurehead mayor position would have a grandiose city hall.

Kendra Bancroft · 09-02-2008, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Richie Waves

Compared to helicopter rides and chauffeur driven limos 1k a month is a pittins..

Yeah 12K annually is real common man stuff for a commute.

**Cristiano** · 09-02-2008, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Kendra Bancroft

Yeah 12K annually is real common man stuff for a commute.

How much would he spend on a car, between gasoline and insurance, for the same commute?

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