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Old 08-29-2008, 11:34 AM   #51 (permalink)
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They consider McCain a maverick. Don't understand what you are saying here. Are you saying McCain is really a woman?

"What we're seeing is a maverick who has shaken up Washington picking as his teammate a maverick governor who has shaken up her own state."
McCain really DID used to be a Maverick!

For a long time.

But he seems to have shifted right since 9/11.

Least I am hoping it was 9/11 ..

And not just him sliding right because he wanted to be President.
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They consider McCain a maverick. Don't understand what you are saying here. Are you saying McCain is really a woman?

"What we're seeing is a maverick who has shaken up Washington picking as his teammate a maverick governor who has shaken up her own state."
I think his Maverick status is dead and buried to be honest... cozying up to the very men who destroyed him in 2000 shows him up as a spineless asshole... "straight talk express" dead too.. couldnt answer a straight question now to save his life..
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You didn't hear about how he dumped the wife who waited for him when he was a POW to hitch up with a younger heiress, then?


I didn't know the part about Gary Hart before. That shit's hilarious.

Yes I knew that marriage fell apart while he was SEPARATED and that he professed it was the one thing he felt truly sorry about in his life that he could have or should have fixed.

So a guy "cheats" (if you can call it that ) while separated and then gets a divorce and that makes him a "womanizer"???

(plus Id give them both credit for at least initially trying to make it work after such a long time away from each other, plus all the issues he may have been dealing with post internment)

That hardly qualifies the man for that title. Please people , if that's all there is then I cry "bullshit"

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Yes I knew that marriage fell apart while he was SEPARATED and that he professed it was the one thing he felt truly sorry about in his life that he could have or should have fixed.

So I guy cheats (if you can call it that ) while separated and then gets a divorce and that makes him a "womanizer"???

That hardly qualifies the man for that title. Please people , if that's all there is then I cry "bullshit"

I know, you wouldn't have a problem if he was clearly a womanizer anyway, considering the misogynistic, shallow shit you post here all the time.
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Really, with parental status coming first and all? I haven't heard that. I'm not saying that you don't hear anything at all about the family lives of male politicians - of course that's not what I'm saying - just that I snorted when I heard "John McCain's choice for Vice President is Sarah Palin, mother of four and Governor of Alaska."

But if it's done equally for male and female politicians, then it's merely stupid, rather than sexist, and I guess I can't be too shocked at stupidity in some quarters of the news media.
I hear it all the time when someone mentions some name that might not be generally known, to humanize them. Who's this? Oh, Governor, mother, four children. I'm sure if he had picked Romny there would be something about Mormans, probably something about the Olympics, something about family.
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Yes I knew that marriage fell apart while he was SEPARATED and that he professed it was the one thing he felt truly sorry about in his life that he could have or should have fixed.

So I guy cheats (if you can call it that ) while separated and then gets a divorce and that makes him a "womanizer"???

That hardly qualifies the man for that title. Please people , if that's all there is then I cry "bullshit"

He dumped his disabled wife who waited for him while he was in Hanoi Hilton for a younger Rich women... man she must be getting a sweet few quid to keep schtump...
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Seriously, that reeks of disgusting.
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Yes, gay people can be just as self-hating as the other minorities.
Thats one way to look at it I guess. Probably the reason in some cases.

I dated a really wild man-hating femme lesbian for a while who was both ultra-republican conservative AND nearly a fundie, she was so Christian. She was also deeply into BDSM in her RL. So she was like contradictions all over the map.

But a lot of people just shift to be more Conservative as they get Older, too.
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Yes I knew that marriage fell apart while he was SEPARATED and that he professed it was the one thing he felt truly sorry about in his life that he could have or should have fixed.

So I guy cheats (if you can call it that ) while separated and then gets a divorce and that makes him a "womanizer"???

That hardly qualifies the man for that title. Please people , if that's all there is then I cry "bullshit"


You're right. Leaving your disabled wife who waited for your dumb ass while you were in a POW camp for a younger woman just makes you a prick. Not a womanizer.
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Seriously, that reeks of disgusting.
I wonder if she will come forward during the campaign?
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I know, you wouldn't have a problem if he was clearly a womanizer anyway, considering the misogynistic, shallow shit you post here all the time.
She probably just gained 30+ pounds or something.
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Have to post this again because its so fucking awesome!

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C'mon. It is so obvious. She is knee deep in the middle of scandal.
The thing about this "scandal" is that she is cooperating fully with the investigation and so no subpoena's were needed. Which means she knows that it'll come to nothing. She also uncovered corruption in her own party.
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Oh good, she's also a big fan of creationism being taught in science class:
Afarensis: Intelligent Design and the Alaska Governor's Race

Bomb her into the ground from orbit just to be sure.
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Yeah there is a false image that Mother = Caring. They did it with Michelle Obama to.
The image is more about a woman's correct sphere being home and family. It's dismissive to refer to a woman you're evaluating as a leader and political administrator as a mom... which is why you don't see this done to male politicians unless it's to play the morality card.
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She probably just gained 30+ pounds or something.
She lost like half a foot of her height and walked with a limp aswell.. The Reagans looked after her while John was away and apparently never forgave him for what he did to her.
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I know, you wouldn't have a problem if he was clearly a womanizer anyway, considering the misogynistic, shallow shit you post here all the time.

OK Well then if you have nothing intelligent to say at all about the topic, or as a repsonse---then insult the person. Way to go Josh.

Hmmm, I don't remember ever going after you in such a personal way.

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I'm just observing that your take on relationships between men and women is ... er ... yours, and probably affects your summation of McCain in this regard.
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OK Well then if you have nothing intelligent to say at all about the topic, or as a repsonse---then insult the person. Way to go Josh.

Hmmm, I don't remember ever going after you in such a personal way.

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I don't like the whole 5000 years in Washington thing.
His longevity is a selling point in my book. Government is a system and he's been around long enough to understand how it works, and he knows where the bodies are buried.

He should be an excellent partner to Obama.

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How does he have a reputation as a womanizer? This is the first I have heard of this.

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"But McCain was making bold career moves on the home front, hotly pursuing a 25-year-old blond from a wealthy Arizona family -- while married. Carol, his wife at the time, had once been quite a babe herself apparently, until a near-fatal car accident (while her husband was in Vietnam) left her 4 inches shorter, overweight and on crutches. The couple had three children, whom Carol cared for alone while her husband was in Vietnamese prisons."
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‘My marriage ended because John McCain didn’t want to be 40, he wanted to be 25. You know that happens...it just does.’

Some of McCain’s acquaintances are less forgiving, however. They portray the politician as a self-centred womaniser who effectively abandoned his crippled wife to ‘play the field’. They accuse him of finally settling on Cindy, a former rodeo beauty queen, for financial reasons.
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But already the McCains’ marriage had begun to fray. ‘John started carousing and running around with women,’ said Robert Timberg.

McCain has acknowledged that he had girlfriends during this time, without going into details. Some friends blame his dissatisfaction with Carol, but others give some credence to her theory of a mid-life crisis.
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He dumped his disabled wife who waited for him while he was in Hanoi Hilton for a younger Rich women... man she must be getting a sweet few quid to keep schtump...

Sohe is a POW , comes home, tries to make it work, and it doesn't--he should be forced to stay in a marriage that doesn't work because she is disabled?

Well since we are using the disability card---I'd say since he is also disabled it's a wash--right? I mean his badly broken leg and limp sorta even the field a bit for ya?

Not that disability should even be part of the discussion right? wer are talking marriages and relationships not caretakers and disabled.

Also look at some studies of POW's from WW II , Korea and Vietnam and divorce--heck even soldiers going to war in WWII and divorce to see that years away from family and relationship probably will lead ya to divorce unless things are extremely strong in the relationship to begin with.

My it must be great to be as perfect as all of you apparantly feel you are to judge all of this without tempering it with all of the facts and possibilities

OK maybe Josh sghould insult me again cause that would really address the issue
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