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Old 09-01-2008, 11:17 AM   #651 (permalink)
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You get that Palin is the VP pick right?
You get that McCain's health and age are a major issue, so his VP choice is being weighed not just as a VP choice? She could quite realistically be faced with taking over the presidency.
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Old 09-01-2008, 11:18 AM   #652 (permalink)
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Old 09-01-2008, 11:18 AM   #653 (permalink)
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and here we are again --

as long as you continue to compare Palin with Obama

Obama LOSES.

Obama is the POTUS candidate. You diminish his candidacy when you bring him to comparison with the VP candidate of the GOP.

You're falling right into McCain's trap.

If "millions" of voter's judgements is the yardstick for VP, then why isn't Hillary the Democrats VP candidate?
We are not going anywhere. I'm not comparing Obama to Palin, just pointing out that it removes McCains main tactic up to this point from play. His campaign must have known it wasn't working and decided to shift gears. I think it will backfire.


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If "millions" of voter's judgements is the yardstick for VP, then why isn't Hillary the Democrats VP candidate?
It is only the yardsick for the presidental candidate. ummm, right?
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You get that McCain's health and age are a major issue, so his VP choice is being weighed not just as a VP choice? She could quite realistically be faced with taking over the presidency.
How old is MCain's mother again?

Let's say for the sake of argument, McCain pushes daisies after a year in office.

You don't think someone who has been a Governor for 2 years, can't step in and be President with an entire cabinet and support team already in place?
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We are not going anywhere. I'm not comparing Obama to Palin, just pointing out that it removes McCains main tactic up to this point from play. His campaign must have known it wasn't working and decided to shift gears. I think it will backfire.


It is only the yardsick for the presidental candidate. ummm, right?
Yes it is.

Sarah Palin isn't the presidential pick though --is she.
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Old 09-01-2008, 11:39 AM   #656 (permalink)
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Yes it is.

Sarah Palin isn't the presidential pick though --is she.
Obviously not. But when the presidential pick is a 72 year old man, how far in the sand would one's head have to be to not give his second's resume greater weighting than normal?
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How old is MCain's mother again?

Let's say for the sake of argument, McCain pushes daisies after a year in office.

You don't think someone who has been a Governor for 2 years, can't step in and be President with an entire cabinet and support team already in place?
With the example of Bush's performance the last 8 years, anything is possible.

But hopefully, in your scenario, her confusion about the executive duties will have been cleared up by then.

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With the example of Bush's performance the last 8 years, anything is possible.

But hopefully, in your scenario, her confusion about the executive duties will have been cleared up by then.

YouTube - Sarah Palin: "What does a VP do?"
Considering the duties of the VP are largely set by the President, I think she is asking a rather good question.

There have been some VP posts that have been important, and there have been some that have been largely ceremonial.
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So obviously she's not a student of modern administrations. She's unaware of what Cheney brought to the position? Gore? The most casual observer of the VP on the last 20 years - hell, any of of us on this board - has a pretty good indication of what the job entails.
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Considering the duties of the VP are largely set by the President, I think she is asking a rather good question.

There have been some VP posts that have been important, and there have been some that have been largely ceremonial.
VP George Bush got to go to a lot of Funerals.

Cheney got to go to undisclosed locations a lot.

Al Gore got to not be able to recognize busts of famous founding fathers on tours.
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The official duties are to be there in case the President dies and to preside over the Senate.
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So obviously she's not a student of modern administrations. She's unaware of what Cheney brought to the position? Gore? The most casual observer of the VP on the last 20 years - hell, any of of us on this board - has a pretty good indication of what the job entails.
I'm quite sure Dan Quayle's job description was exactly the same as Al Gore's or Dick Cheney's.
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If you look at it that it boils to down to why the VP was brought to the ticket - window dressing? Cynical opponent out-manuvering? If solely for those superficial political reasons, then obviously the post will reflect the inhabitant.
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If you look at it that it boils to down to why the VP was brought to the ticket - window dressing? Cynical opponent out-manuvering? If solely for those superficial political reasons, then obviously the post will reflect the inhabitant.
I'd like to point out my one-page-old post as to why McCain chose her.

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how many people who are on this -

"She was for it, before she was against it" kick ....

Bought Kerry's line about the Iraq War in 2004.
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Didn't buy it.... But it has effectively entered the political lexicon.

Those who start such ridiculing movements better be prepared for when it is turned against themselves.
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how many people who are on this -

"She was for it, before she was against it" kick ....

Bought Kerry's line about the Iraq War in 2004.
I actually don't have a problem with someone changing their mind or withdrawing their support. I do have a problem with the spin that Palin was a champion against the bridge, who told Congress "thanks but no thanks", when in fact she did support the project until it became politically toxic to continue to do so and the money dried up.
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No cheap shot on the daughter, but gee, I wonder what the governor's position on teenage sex education is?

edit: well... drip, drip... When will the complete truth on Trig's parentage finally come out?
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No cheap shot on the daughter, but gee, I wonder what the governor's position on teenage sex education is?
She is a strong proponent of abstinence-only programs.
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If her water broke on stage before a speech how could that child have been her daughters?
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She is a strong proponent of abstinence-only programs.

So, I guess we can now say that she has irrefutable proof that those programs don't work.

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So, I guess we can now say that she has irrefutable proof that those programs don't work.

Its true!

Abstinence does not work to stop pregnancy for people who have sex.
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Its true!

Abstinence does not work to stop pregnancy for people who have sex.
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Equally hilarious - over at Red State they are crowing about daughter Palin and her courageous choice. The fact that they are using the word "choice" is the most beautiful kind of irony.
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