Colette Meiji

Alaska has a lot of industries based on resources as well as fishing interests.

I think you are underestimating the importance of Alaska's economy by quite a bit.

Never mind the fact that the state is HUGE. Presenting a difficulty in governing from sheer logistics.

I do not see why it would be easier to govern than other US states.

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Do you consider the government officials in Canada to be less experienced than those in other countries? After all Canada in many ways is like Alaska (and Canada has a population far smaller than most Industrialized nations.)

Cristiano

Of course, just as you have certain segments who are voting for Obama just because he is black (or not voting for him because he is). In the case of women in particular though, unless they are staunchly pro-life, they are voting against their own self-interests.

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jacqueline trudeau

Palin was for the "Bridge to Nowhere" before she was against it.



Those Palin quotes go a little beyond resignation that they couldn't get the funding.

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jacqueline trudeau

Excuse his assumption after the glowing reivew you gave a few posts back.

jacqueline trudeau

Ummm Kendra, the Governor is under investigation herself as we speak.

Please do.

Kendra Bancroft

If you want to attack her on experience , it's going to be a losing battle.

It's exactly where McCain and the GOP hope she will be attacked, because it draws the same attack back to Obama who is at the TOP of the ticket.

But far be it from me to help Democrats figure out that they need to attack on the ISSUES if they want to win.

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Cindy Claveau

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/28/us...ewanted=1&_r=1

I'm going to repeat this until it sinks in:

The stakes are too high for this same partisan playbook.

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Cindy Claveau

Regarding the experience of Obama, I posted a link last week that showed he was in the middle of a long list of good Presidents in that category.

What Kind of Experience Makes a Good President? | Heretical Ideas Magazine

According to a C-span poll, these are considered the top 5 Presidents in our history:

1. Abraham Lincoln
2. Franklin Roosevelt
3. George Washington
4. Teddy Roosevelt
5. Thomas Jefferson

Someone even went through Wiki and charted the experience of past American Presidents. Apparently, Obama has more experience than Eisenhower, Carter, Teddy Roosevelt, John Adams, Ronald Reagan, GW Bush, Herbert Hoover and some others. "Inexperienced" seems to me to be just another fear-tactic when it comes to Obama. With Palin it's a different matter.

How Good Are Experienced Presidents?

Cristiano

I groaned at you for your odd fixation on my use of the word brilliant. Also, you are assuming I put that much stock into Obama's speech. While I certainly would feel far better with him as president than McCain, Obama was not my choice for candidate.

I may not of agreed with the article 100% but I enjoyed it and found it clearly made a case for what a deplorable choice she was for VP, period. You can repeat the patriotism thing all you want, it is not in dispute, so you are preaching to the choir. Ultimately, it is not unpatriotic, it is simply an act of reckless judgement to put someone so woefully inexperienced into that position. That is worse that unpatriotic, it is outright dangerous.

Colette Meiji

This is interesting and a bit insidious.
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Okay lets give people the benefit of the doubt and say Obama has more applicable experience than Palin.

He still doesn't have a whole lot more ..

Especially when compared to McCain.

Compared to McCain they both seem very inexperienced,

And when the Dems attack Palin for being inexperienced they ALSO highlight Obama's lack of experience.

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Thus the more the Dems attack Palin on this issue, the weaker Obama's experience will look compared to McCain's.

And McCain doesn't even have to do anything.

Cindy Claveau

Well, guess what? Mr. Elisberg (or someone) apparently edited the original post at Huffington, removing the part I found so ridiculous ("If Republicans vote for this ticket, it is PROOF they hate this country more than bin Laden does.")

Gone now, replaced with more paragraphs of political babble, though slightly less offensive.

I guess someone at Huffington must have agreed with me.

Elisberg's piece still stated the obvious, though, and hours after the rest of the world had already spotted all the things he noted. But better late than never. And I still think we have some folks on this board who are every bit as brilliant as him or more so.

Envoy Costagravas

No, it was me, Cindy. I wrote them and told them I had a friend who, while we didn't always see eye to eye, kept me honest and brought up points the way you like people to bring up points you overlooked or were blindered to. They initially balked, but I said "Look, you dicks, this is important! This election may well be one of the most important in our country's history, and if you want to maintain a scintilla of credulity you damn well better haul that guy's ass on the carpet and get him to knock off with the partisan bullshit!"

And, to my surprise, the article was edited. I will meet you inworld for sex at your convenience.

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Cristiano

Hours after the rest of the world? So, if it was stated somewhere else, no one else can comment on it? His article was the first in depth one I had read, the rest were pretty vague. So what if others had already written about it a few hours before. My god, a day prior, very few people knew anything about her so this idea that all the things he noted had already been discovered a few hours before he wrote about them, and therefore unnecessary to write about, is nonsense.

Finally, what is with your fixation on my use of the word brilliant? I happen to think a lot of people here are as well, so not sure where that one came from either. I didn't say it was the best freaking article I had ever read in my life and beyond reproach. I just happened to enjoy it, hyperbole and all. Not sure why that was worth so much attention.

Mereille

I can't help but post this one.

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PALIN HAZ A SEKRET BEBE!


Had to interject that again. Bart Motes: Palin Baby Shocker!



Baby bump on the right.

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Mereille

That is just not funny. Don't attack the woman's 17 year old daughter.

If you want to attack Palin, there are plenty of other cheap shots to take.

For example:
Founding Fathers? She thinks the founding fathers wrote the pledge? AND that they put "under God" in it?

EDIT: I just want to add that the quote came from a candidate questionaire for the 2006 gubanatorial race.

Cindy Claveau

That's why I said his comments were "Obvious". Obvious as in Captain. It's not nonsense. All I had to do was Google her name when I got home from work. She had been nominated about 3 hours before, and just like that I already had the same information he also Googled. The Internet: The Great Information Equalizer.

But don't mistake me - I'm not requiring a political blog to provide me with new information. I just don't consider them to be cutting edge or revelatory.

That's nice for you, Cris. I think my chief objection was just the whole "hate America" bullshit he added in - and then edited out. It's not the first time that blog has edited something out that was objectionable like that. That's either dishonesty or editorial responsibility, I'm not sure. The rest of the political hyperbole was just the same old Huffington fluff, to me.

One thing I lay awake last night wondering: There seems to be this fixation on VP candidates this year in view of "What if the President dies?"

Out of 44 Presidents in our history, 8 of them have died. Most people have never heard of some of them. Zach Taylor, William H. Harrison, Warren Harding and FDR all died of natural causes. Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley and JFK were assassinated. Considering that Presidential protection has never been as good as it is today, those aren't very likely odds.

While it's right to be concerned about who is sitting one heartbeat away from the office, it's also true that the system is built to limit and redress misuse of Presidential power. Congress is the main limit. I wonder why we don't see as much concern over who will control the next Congress as we do about Palin's perceived lack of experience?

Oh, wait, it's all politics. Everybody's looking for a hook. For traction. For a chink in the other side's armor. I have a million reasons not to vote for McCain. Palin's at the bottom. I'm far, FAR more worried about SCOTUS appointments, health care, reproductive rights, gay rights and international image than I am the latest 'family values' figure on the political right.

Mereille

Cindy Claveau

She probably also thinks they put "In God We Trust" on our coins.

("Under God" was added to the pledge in 1954. "In God We Trust" first appeared on coins in 1864.)

jacqueline trudeau

Democrats have every issue on their side - that won't be a problem.

But in the process of this pick, McCain tooks his own attack - virtually the only one he'd used since the nominations were set - completely off the table. Was that a smart trade off for shoring up a diminishing constituancy and an insulting gender politics ploy? I think not.

Kendra Bancroft

You get that Palin is the VP pick right?

jacqueline trudeau

Yes, which brings into contention the judgement of the P candidate. Say what you will about Obama's experience, his position on the ticket was the result of millions of voter's judgements.

Kendra Bancroft

and here we are again --

as long as you continue to compare Palin with Obama

Obama LOSES.

Obama is the POTUS candidate. You diminish his candidacy when you bring him to comparison with the VP candidate of the GOP.

You're falling right into McCain's trap.

If "millions" of voter's judgements is the yardstick for VP, then why isn't Hillary the Democrats VP candidate?

Joshua Nightshade

Palin didn't take on any corrupt officials. She was not responsible for cleaning up her state.

Kendra Bancroft

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