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**Envoy Costagravas** · 08-31-2008, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kendra Bancroft

It is a shame everyone feels they must insult Sarah because she is not Hillary.

I'm not sure where that is coming from, but certainly nothing I've uttered.

Kendra Bancroft · 08-31-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Colette Meiji

That is some interesting information Kendra.

It sure seems that those who claim she is less experienced than Obama are exaggerating their case.

I operate under facts.

Not delusional BS from EITHER Party.

Lord knows, I have a problem with much GOP policy, but diminishing Sarah Palin's record is not something I'm going to be a part of.

Shyotl · 08-31-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kendra Bancroft

I also think it's no time for beginners.

McCain wanted someone that shared his views, she is against pork barrel spending and has stood up to Washington on some of the same things McCain did, opposed it! 'Bridge to nowhere":

Alaska's Gravina Island (population less than 50) will soon be connected to the megalopolis of Ketchikan (pop. 8,000) by a bridge nearly as long as the Golden Gate and higher than the Brooklyn Bridge. Alaska residents can thank Rep. Don Young, who just brought home $941 million worth of bacon.

It didn't go through, that is $941 million of taxpayers money that did not get wasted. I for one am GRATEFUL that some politicians oppose this crap, I wish there were more of them! Having 2 that have a history of defeating such waste of OUR MONEY in the White House is GREAT, as far as I am concerned.

"Despite the work of our congressional delegation, we are about $329 million short of full funding for the bridge project, and it's clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more money on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island. Much of the public's attitude toward Alaska bridges is based on inaccurate portrayals of the projects here. But we need to focus on what we can do, rather than fight over what has happened." - Paulin. McCain was among the congressmen she critisized.

And then.. She dropped it due to lack of fudning.

'Bridge to nowhere' abandoned - CNN.com

Vengence Opus · 08-31-2008, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Eboni Khan

Just about every time I read anything that is supposed to pass for news in the past 5-7 years. I can't be the only person on the planet that has noticed that writing has really taken a hit since blogging became popular.

...says the person who cited the National Enquirer.

**Envoy Costagravas** · 08-31-2008, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Eboni Khan

I was criticizing something that was poorly written and called brilliant.

My idea of well- or poorly-written is different from yours. And the word "brilliant" can mean a number of things.

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We can just disagree on Op-Ed and "News" since they are basically the same thing now, they are just in different sections.

You conflate them, not I.

Colette Meiji · 08-31-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Shyotl

"Despite the work of our congressional delegation, we are about $329 million short of full funding for the bridge project, and it's clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more money on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island. Much of the public's attitude toward Alaska bridges is based on inaccurate portrayals of the projects here. But we need to focus on what we can do, rather than fight over what has happened." - Paulin. McCain was among the congressmen she critisized.

And then.. She dropped it due to lack of fudning.

'Bridge to nowhere' abandoned - CNN.com

Did you read the article? - it doesn't disagree with what Kendra said.

In fact the bit you cherry-picked out doesn't seem to agree with the context of the article.

Kendra Bancroft · 08-31-2008, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Envoy Costagravas

I'm not sure where that is coming from, but certainly nothing I've uttered.

It's a general critique of everyone's claim that she is inexperienced.

I find her as experienced as Obama --and SHE's the VP pick --NOT the POTUS pick.

It rankles me.

Malachi · 08-31-2008, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kendra Bancroft

I operate under facts.

Show me anything in political maneuvering that achieves the status of fact, and that might be credible.

Dancien Graves · 08-31-2008, 02:19 PM

I had a theory, it's been confirmed.

Kendra Bancroft · 08-31-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Shyotl

"Despite the work of our congressional delegation, we are about $329 million short of full funding for the bridge project, and it's clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more money on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island. Much of the public's attitude toward Alaska bridges is based on inaccurate portrayals of the projects here. But we need to focus on what we can do, rather than fight over what has happened." - Paulin. McCain was among the congressmen she critisized.

And then.. She dropped it due to lack of fudning.

'Bridge to nowhere' abandoned - CNN.com

What's your point?

Kendra Bancroft · 08-31-2008, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Malachi

Show me anything in political maneuvering that achieves the status of fact, and that might be credible.

Political maneuvering is in itself a fact.

The difference is --I see nothing wrong with it.

**Envoy Costagravas** · 08-31-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kendra Bancroft

It rankles me.

Understood, and I'm sure it does. I just didn't get the Hillary connection here, although I've seen a fair amount of that contrast/compare in the press.

I've had my rare foray into the Politics forum, and it looks to be a good day for some yard work...

Good to see you again, Kendra. You know that you are on the minds of a lot of us when you aren't around.

Colette Meiji · 08-31-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kendra Bancroft

What's your point?

I read the point as being that Palin canceled the bridge because they couldn't get the funding. Not for any other reason.

But the article doesn't really say that.

Kendra Bancroft · 08-31-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Colette Meiji

I read the point as being that Palin canceled the bridge because they couldn't get the funding. Not for any other reason.

But the article doesn't really say that.

exactly.

Kendra Bancroft · 08-31-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Envoy Costagravas

Understood, and I'm sure it does. I just didn't get the Hillary connection here, although I've seen a fair amount of that contrast/compare in the press.

I've had my rare foray into the Politics forum, and it looks to be a good day for some yard work...

Good to see you again, Kendra. You know that you are on the minds of a lot of us when you aren't around.

Thanks, Envoy

Dancien Graves · 08-31-2008, 02:33 PM

Let's review here...

Sarah Palin:
Wasilla City Council: 1992 to 1996
Wasilla Mayor (A ceremonial position): 1996 to 2002
Went for Lt. Governor in 2002 and failed.
Chaired the Oil And Gas Conservation Commission from 2003 to 2004
Governor of Alaska: 2006 - Present.

Yes, I can totally see where that would be just as much politcal experience as Obama. City Council member of a town of around 9,000 for 6 years and governor of a state with a population slightly higher than Fort Worth Texas. I can see now how she's totally prepared to lead the country. That great big well of experience surely has her prepared....

Let's call a spade a spade. She was selected because McCain wanted to try and round up the Hillary supporters who are still pissed their girl didn't win the nomination. And apparently in some cases, it worked.

Colette Meiji · 08-31-2008, 02:36 PM

I am completely floored by the total disregard of Alaska as an important state.

Didn't any of you naysayers take history or geography in high school?

Alaska's population is not its only attribute.

Shyotl · 08-31-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Colette Meiji

I read the point as being that Palin canceled the bridge because they couldn't get the funding. Not for any other reason.

But the article doesn't really say that.

Ah, I cut the quote short, and true, that cnn article isn't really too relevant. The quotes seem to be in their best form on Alaskan government website, and sadly was on a page since been taken down and is only accessible through google cache.

Alaska Governor Sarah Palin

She criticized those that didn't let the funding go through as she conceded the project. Sounds like she cut her losses after failing to get that big fat check. I guess not building a bridge one couldn't afford is some gracious triumphant feat worthy of praise, unless I'm interpreting her quotes wrong?

Colette Meiji · 08-31-2008, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Shyotl

Ah, I cut the quote short, and true, that cnn article isn't really too relevant. The quotes seem to be in their best form on Alaskan government website, and sadly was on a page since been taken down and is only accessible through google cache.

Alaska Governor Sarah Palin

She criticized those that didn't let the funding go through as she conceded the project. Sounds like she cut her losses after failing to get that big fat check. I guess not building a bridge one couldn't afford is some gracious triumphant feat worthy of praise?

I didn't get that from that article at all.

It sounds almost like you had a bias when reading it.

**Cristiano** · 08-31-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dancien Graves

Let's call a spade a spade. She was selected because McCain wanted to try and round up the Hillary supporters who are still pissed their girl didn't win the nomination. And apparently in some cases, it worked.

I doubt it will work much on that angle. Abortion rights are an important issue for a lot of women, and I doubt many Hillary supporters, however alienated they feel, would vote for a pro-life ticket, even with a female candidate.

Kendra Bancroft · 08-31-2008, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dancien Graves

Let's review here...

Sarah Palin:
Wasilla City Council: 1992 to 1996
Wasilla Mayor (A ceremonial position): 1996 to 2002
Went for Lt. Governor in 2002 and failed.
Chaired the Oil And Gas Conservation Commission from 2003 to 2004
Governor of Alaska: 2006 - Present.

Yes, I can totally see where that would be just as much politcal experience as Obama. City Council member of a town of around 9,000 for 6 years and governor of a state with a population slightly higher than Fort Worth Texas. I can see now how she's totally prepared to lead the country. That great big well of experience surely has her prepared....

Let's call a spade a spade. She was selected because McCain wanted to try and round up the Hillary supporters who are still pissed their girl didn't win the nomination. And apparently in some cases, it worked.

You're assuming I'm supporting the McCain/Palin ticket.

I never said I was --and BTW I'm not.

Neither am I supporting the Obama/Biden ticket.

Colette Meiji · 08-31-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cristiano

I doubt it will work much on that angle. Abortion rights are an important issue for a lot of women, and I doubt many Hillary supporters, however alienated they feel, would vote for a pro-life ticket, even with a female candidate.

While probably true, the Republicans may not have seen it that way.

For them to choose a Woman probably did have something to do with Hillary running this year.

Choosing this woman though, wouldn't have only been about that.

Victoria Kemsley · 08-31-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cristiano

I doubt it will work much on that angle. Abortion rights are an important issue for a lot of women, and I doubt many Hillary supporters, however alienated they feel, would vote for a pro-life ticket, even with a female candidate.

Ehhh...think again, I wandered over to the Puma blogs yesterday just outta curiousty

Those are women you do not want to piss off. Not only do they want Obama's balls on a pedistal, they are starting to throw serious money at McCain.

Ten · 08-31-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Colette Meiji

she has a baby less than 1 year old?

Alaskan Governor's child may be her daughter's? - iReport.com
Exclusives: The Truth About Those Sarah Palin Pregnancy Coverup Rumors

**Adam Zaius** · 08-31-2008, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kendra Bancroft

You're assuming I'm supporting the McCain/Palin ticket.

I never said I was --and BTW I'm not.

Neither am I supporting the Obama/Biden ticket.

Aaah.

Another Bob Barr fan I take it.

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08-31-2008, 02:33 PM	#591 (permalink)
Dancien Graves What? Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 7,001 My Mood: SL Join Date: 12/2006 Awards: 1	Let's review here... Sarah Palin: Wasilla City Council: 1992 to 1996 Wasilla Mayor (A ceremonial position): 1996 to 2002 Went for Lt. Governor in 2002 and failed. Chaired the Oil And Gas Conservation Commission from 2003 to 2004 Governor of Alaska: 2006 - Present. Yes, I can totally see where that would be just as much politcal experience as Obama. City Council member of a town of around 9,000 for 6 years and governor of a state with a population slightly higher than Fort Worth Texas. I can see now how she's totally prepared to lead the country. That great big well of experience surely has her prepared.... Let's call a spade a spade. She was selected because McCain wanted to try and round up the Hillary supporters who are still pissed their girl didn't win the nomination. And apparently in some cases, it worked.

08-31-2008, 02:36 PM	#592 (permalink)
Colette Meiji Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 7,531 My Mood:	I am completely floored by the total disregard of Alaska as an important state. Didn't any of you naysayers take history or geography in high school? Alaska's population is not its only attribute.

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