Joshua Nightshade

I've consistently criticized random ridiculous blogs being used as a primary source for complaints on either side.

No, they aren't okay there either.

And incredibly biased sources are not legitimate to a debate in any event, be they right or left.

Want to impress me, use a legitimate news source.

Colette Meiji

Will not happen.

If they do anything to undermine Obama, their party clout in the Democratic party will be gone.

Thats why they had to endorse him at the Convention.

She'd stand a better chance of running against Obama as an incumbent in 2012 than winning in your scenario.

She will be 68 in 2016, potentially young enough. She is still a senator. She is not going to vanish.

Lucifer Baphomet

Would The Onion be acceptable?

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Colette Meiji

Not that the Dems really allow candidates to run again ..

Colette Meiji

I agree.

I usually view Blog sources as no more credible than a poster I never heard of making a post,

Since it is just opinion.

Unless it is something like an Op Ed from someone who is known for fairness and critical thought.

Joshua Nightshade

Satire is always an acceptable news source.

hope Antonelli

Obama Takes On Outside Group Over Ayers Ad - Horserace

okay, is cbs legit enough?

FlipperPA Peregrine

Hardball's Chris Matthews PWNS the PUMA Women. Wow, these women are batshit insane, watch this video:

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Gigs

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Victoria Kemsley

Washington, DC – August 26, 2008 – The Barack Obama campaign has resorted to a campaign of intimidation and legal threats to convince television stations and the federal government to force off the air an ad by the American Issues Project detailing the link between Sen. Obama and remorseless domestic terrorist William Ayers.

The Obama campaign has been contacting stations running American Issues Project’s ad in an unsuccessful attempt to compel them to pull the spot. The Obama campaign also sent a letter yesterday to the Department of Justice asking the government to investigate American Issues Project, its officers, board of directors, and donors. With no success on either front, the campaign has begun running its own ad in response. Notably, this ad fails to dispute a single fact in the American Issues Project’s initial ad



American Issues Project sent a letter today to the Department of Justice responding to the Obama campaign’s claims


http://www.americanissuesproject.org/

Surely we have not come to a point where the government and its agencies are used to protect presidential candidates from citizens’ speech, essentially destroying the very purpose, meaning and historical essence of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution




The thing about it, at least to me, if Obama would have said something like, yes Ayes lived near me, I know him and I served on various committies and such with him over the years, but I don't endose or agree with his actions, this would have been a non issue.


But when Obama says "he's just a guy who lives in my neighborhood", and changes the topic, people are gonna dig, wondering what he is trying to hide

Joshua Nightshade

Yep. Seems like a legitimate concern he's got. What difference does it make?

Teeny Leviathan

Apparently, "evidence" drawn from her own ass is a truthful and correct. She does not want to give out the name of the (former) "Congressional Investigator". Claims to be "Independent". Tries to change the subject with talk about an injunction. The next time "PUMA" wants some airtime, they need to gag this bitch and hide her in a broom closet. She's not helping them at all.

Victoria Kemsley

Well ya all have fun, gotta get ready for the game.....

It's a lovely time of the year....football's back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eboni Khan

Since she lives in the least populous state, that strawman argument you present needs to ease on down the road.

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hope Antonelli

Obama Needs to Explain His Ties to William Ayers - Michael Barone (usnews.com)

US News and world report anyone?

hope Antonelli

And my favorite, Fox news
Newly Released Documents Highlight Obama’s Relationship With Ayers - America’s Election HQ

Eboni Khan

Doesn't care about free speech? Politics as usual. There is a long list. The documents about his association with Ayres were released by UIC only because people in Chicago, several talk show hosts bombarded the college with calls and forced them to release the documents after they stalled for weeks.

As nation watches Denver, Obama campaign muscles Chicago station over ex-radical Ayres | Top of the Ticket | Los Angeles Times


Charismatic, silencing dissent, ego the size of Pangaea. That is change we can believe in.


The two papers in Chicago are battling to stay alive, they both can't last, they are willing to be as sensational as possible. Obama angering the Chicago media would be an extremely bad move at this point, these papers have nothing to lose and they will investigative report his ass as they LOVE to do.

Eboni Khan

He said that but no one cared. He went to a political meeting in his house. The fact Obama denounce him is curious he just wants to shut the whole thing up.

Ayers And Obama: What Is Their Relationship?


If Ayres is so bad, why isn't he in jail? I don't get it.

hope Antonelli

He got off on a technicality because of some bad investigative techniques used to gather evidence against him. He's never denied he tried to bomb the police building, or been the least bit repentant of the fact...and association with anyone of that ilk is more than enough to make me go pause when it comes to voting into the office of President someone who does.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q...zQ3YTFjMTY0NzE=

Cindy Claveau

This isn't a one-to-one comparison, but it is something interesting to bear in mind:

Harry S. Truman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Truman went from haberdasher to county judge to Senator in 9 years and became the VP candidate on FDR's ticket in 1944.

I'm NOT comparing Truman to Palin, but I do think it's unfair to judge someone's capabilities before they get their chance to show their mettle. There are plenty of examples in history that should inform us on that.

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jacqueline trudeau

No strawman.... the point (over your head??? whoooosh!) is that she is a completely unknown... completely unvetted ... completely untested in any campaign that has reached beyond a population base over a couple hundred thousand. Who knows what's waiting beneath the covers for the national media to uncover? Her attempts at using her office to fire a public official due to a familial spat offers an ominous indication.

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jacqueline trudeau

Yeah, you guys go with those Ayers stories. I can see why you'd want to change the subject from Palin.

Eboni Khan

It is not over my head. When I say the same things about Obama, all I get is hope, puppies and sunshine as an excuse for his thin resume and shady past.

Obama was elected to the Senate and his wife salary doubled while she ran a project with FEDERAL FUNDS to disenfranchise poor patients in her neighborhood, at so called non-profit hospital. There is plenty of shady dealings all the way around. Obama is far from squeaky clean and experienced.

We can play this game all day or until my Sims download folder finshes compressing...

jacqueline trudeau

A *commentator/blogger* from US News and World report??? Jesus, can't the Fox viewership tell the difference between opinion and news anymore?

Eboni Khan

Ayres wouldn't be an issue if Obama wasn't acting like a fascist trying to shut up the media.